Running in the heat v. biking?

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I was the only runner dumb enough to run at peak heat>

But you made it 7.5 miles? That's pretty damn good for 104'.

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I was the only runner dumb enough to run at peak heat, but I still

saw
plenty of bikers on the trail. I'm wondering if the air flow they get
makes it more tolerable?>

Defeniately! Plus they aren't exerting themselves as much as you.

Janithor said:

I think I found my limit. 104 = too hot. Made it to mile 7.5 and had
to just stop and walk the rest of the way. I've overheated once before,
so I know how to listen to my body when I run in the heat.

I was the only runner dumb enough to run at peak heat, but I still saw
plenty of bikers on the trail. I'm wondering if the air flow they get
makes it more tolerable?

Partly -- but they still suffer on the uphills, and they can still get
dehydrated.

Anyway, running in the heat is fine, but you have to be prepared to slow
down quite a lot -- and not just slow down when you're forced to, but go
slow from the start. That means less miles in the same amount of time, so
you may need to make your runs a little shorter.

You'll also probably need to hydrate on the run if you're running longer
than an hour.

Also, you need to get acclimated before you try doing long runs when it's
hot. If you're acclimated, you should be fine, just go slowly.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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I think I found my limit. 104 = too hot. Made it to mile 7.5 and had
to just stop and walk the rest of the way. I've overheated once before,
so I know how to listen to my body when I run in the heat.

Knowing your limits is more difficult in a racing situation.

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I was the only runner dumb enough to run at peak heat, but I still saw
plenty of bikers on the trail. I'm wondering if the air flow they get
makes it more tolerable?

Biking is much more flexible in the heat and otherwise, except for very
steep hills. You can ride at a much lower effort than when running and still
go 13-15 mph, and you have natural cooling from the airflow. I find cycling
tolerable in almost any kind of heat condition, while running becomes very
difficult over 80 with humidity, or over 90 with less humidity. 104 being
obviously above normal human body temperature means it's really only
possible to run with good evaporation (low humidity).

-Tony

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I think I found my limit. 104 = too hot. Made it to mile 7.5 and had
to just stop and walk the rest of the way. I've overheated once before,
so I know how to listen to my body when I run in the heat.

Knowing your limits is more difficult in a racing situation.

Quoted message said:

I was the only runner dumb enough to run at peak heat, but I still saw
plenty of bikers on the trail. I'm wondering if the air flow they get
makes it more tolerable?

Biking is much more flexible in the heat and otherwise, except for very
steep hills. You can ride at a much lower effort than when running and still
go 13-15 mph, and you have natural cooling from the airflow. I find cycling
tolerable in almost any kind of heat condition, while running becomes very
difficult over 80 with humidity, or over 90 with less humidity. 104 being
obviously above normal human body temperature means it's really only
possible to run with good evaporation (low humidity).

-Tony

Sacramento - the rain stops after May, and everything becomes brown
("gold" as my native Californian wife tells me)

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Donovan Rebbechi said:

Janithor said:

I think I found my limit. 104 = too hot. Made it to mile 7.5 and had
to just stop and walk the rest of the way. I've overheated once before,
so I know how to listen to my body when I run in the heat.

I was the only runner dumb enough to run at peak heat, but I still saw
plenty of bikers on the trail. I'm wondering if the air flow they get
makes it more tolerable?

Partly -- but they still suffer on the uphills, and they can still get
dehydrated.

Anyway, running in the heat is fine, but you have to be prepared to slow
down quite a lot -- and not just slow down when you're forced to, but go
slow from the start. That means less miles in the same amount of time, so
you may need to make your runs a little shorter.

You'll also probably need to hydrate on the run if you're running longer
than an hour.

Also, you need to get acclimated before you try doing long runs when it's
hot. If you're acclimated, you should be fine, just go slowly.

Cheers,

I'm used to it. I overheated once last year, when I first started
running. Turns out it's important to drink water when you're running in
the upper 90's, go figure.

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You'll also probably need to hydrate on the run if you're running longer

than an hour.

Actually, at 104 F, you'll want to keep a small squirt-bottle of water
with you even for a one-hour run or less, not for fear of dehydration
but for comfort reasons. In that heat, your mouth and throat get
totally evaporated and parched, and you need to keep them wet with an
occasional squirt. A splash on the head is also very useful to cool
you down. I used to carry a bike water bottle with two caps -- a
drinking squirter and a showerhead, which was an old french thing that
came with a decades-old Peugeot racing bike. It finally gave out, but
any old bike water bottle will do.

Bite - me

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The Good Guy said:

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You'll also probably need to hydrate on the run if you're running longer

than an hour.

Actually, at 104 F, you'll want to keep a small squirt-bottle of water
with you even for a one-hour run or less, not for fear of dehydration
but for comfort reasons. In that heat, your mouth and throat get
totally evaporated and parched, and you need to keep them wet with an
occasional squirt. A splash on the head is also very useful to cool
you down. I used to carry a bike water bottle with two caps -- a
drinking squirter and a showerhead, which was an old french thing that
came with a decades-old Peugeot racing bike. It finally gave out, but
any old bike water bottle will do.

Along the trail that I run on, they have a drinking foutain about every
2 miles. My bottle is probably 16-20 oz. I find on really hot days, it
pays to fill it up almost every time. If I have enough water in me, I
do just that: squirt it on my head, face, etc...

104 is just too damn hot. I was moving like a turtle.

Quoted message said:

Along the trail that I run on, they have a drinking foutain about every

2 miles. My bottle is probably 16-20 oz. I find on really hot days,
it
pays to fill it up almost every time. If I have enough water in me, I
do just that: squirt it on my head, face, etc...

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104 is just too damn hot. I was moving like a turtle.

On a trail, at anything above 90F, the in-run water will be needed
probably just to keep the dust out of your breathing passages!

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I think I found my limit. 104 = too hot. Made it to mile 7.5 and had to
just stop and walk the rest of the way. I've overheated once before, so I
know how to listen to my body when I run in the heat.

I was the only runner dumb enough to run at peak heat, but I still saw
plenty of bikers on the trail. I'm wondering if the air flow they get
makes it more tolerable?

Yes, it makes it more tolerable. However since often times you are out
there longer there is still some danger in the heat.

104 is too hot for anything outside.

104 is pretty darn hot no matter the precautions taken.

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Janithor said:

I think I found my limit. 104 = too hot. Made it to mile 7.5 and had
to just stop and walk the rest of the way. I've overheated once before,
so I know how to listen to my body when I run in the heat.

I was the only runner dumb enough to run at peak heat, but I still saw
plenty of bikers on the trail. I'm wondering if the air flow they get
makes it more tolerable?

Partly -- but they still suffer on the uphills, and they can still get
dehydrated.

Anyway, running in the heat is fine, but you have to be prepared to slow
down quite a lot -- and not just slow down when you're forced to, but go
slow from the start. That means less miles in the same amount of time, so
you may need to make your runs a little shorter.

You'll also probably need to hydrate on the run if you're running longer
than an hour.

Also, you need to get acclimated before you try doing long runs when it's
hot. If you're acclimated, you should be fine, just go slowly.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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Yes, it makes it more tolerable. However since often times you are out
there longer there is still some danger in the heat.

104 is too hot for anything outside.

only mad dogs and englishmen as they say... and baby boomers in mid-life
crisis now 🙂

-Tony

Amen biking is cooler !

When above 85 degrees I ROLLERSKI - cross country skiing (skating style) on
wheels.
I can hum along comfortably at 12 mph for 2 hours with a great breeze.
Like someone else said too - biking and rollerskiing are not as "tough" as
running - you have a lower heart rate usually.
JK

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I think I found my limit. 104 = too hot. Made it to mile 7.5 and had to
just stop and walk the rest of the way. I've overheated once before, so I
know how to listen to my body when I run in the heat.

I was the only runner dumb enough to run at peak heat, but I still saw
plenty of bikers on the trail. I'm wondering if the air flow they get
makes it more tolerable?

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I think I found my limit. 104 = too hot. Made it to mile 7.5 and had to
just stop and walk the rest of the way. I've overheated once before, so I
know how to listen to my body when I run in the heat.

I was the only runner dumb enough to run at peak heat, but I still saw
plenty of bikers on the trail. I'm wondering if the air flow they get
makes it more tolerable?

Calculate it in centigrade, it feels cooler. 104 F suddenly becomes 40 C.
There now, doesn't that feel better?

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I think I found my limit. 104 = too hot. Made it to mile 7.5 and had to
just stop and walk the rest of the way. I've overheated once before, so I
know how to listen to my body when I run in the heat.

I was the only runner dumb enough to run at peak heat, but I still saw
plenty of bikers on the trail. I'm wondering if the air flow they get
makes it more tolerable?

Calculate it in centigrade, it feels cooler. 104 F suddenly becomes 40 C.
There now, doesn't that feel better?

Much, thank you!

Going to try a 20 miler tomorrow, got to get up early enough to do it.

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104 is too hot for anything outside.

Sam, tell that to the crazy SOB's that did Badwater. 104 would be a cool
spell. 😉

Ot desert rats that consider 104 one of the "cooler" days!
;-)

Teresa in AZ

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Yes, it makes it more tolerable. However since often times you are out
there longer there is still some danger in the heat.

104 is too hot for anything outside.

only mad dogs and englishmen as they say... and baby boomers in mid-life
crisis now 🙂

-Tony

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Partly -- but they still suffer on the uphills>

Like runners don't?