Interesting interview, but I was a bit suprised that Lance is still so irritated with Lemond. It's really too bad that Lemond and Lance don't have a better relationship. I just hope that Lance will play a bigger role in US cycling then Lemond has. I think that Lemond could have really helped racing in the US if he did more.
"PLAYBOY: If you win another Tour or three, will you retire, sit around on the couch and get fat? ARMSTRONG:: I'll be a fitness junkie forever, not out of shape like some guys. But I'm not naming names... achoo-lemond!
PLAYBOY: During that sneeze one side of your mouth mentioned Greg LeMond, your boyhood hero, who won three Tours but now rips you. He suspects you're a doper. What's your relationship with LeMond? ARMSTRONG:: None. What he did in 1989 and 1990 was phenomenal. But Greg's not even worth talking about today. And I don't need to hear from him -- he'd only shove his foot farther down his mouth."
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Interesting interview, but I was a bit suprised that Lance is still so irritated with Lemond. It's really too bad that Lemond and Lance don't have a better relationship. I just hope that Lance will play a bigger role in US cycling then Lemond has. I think that Lemond could have really helped racing in the US if he did more.
"PLAYBOY: If you win another Tour or three, will you retire, sit around on the couch and get fat? ARMSTRONG:: I'll be a fitness junkie forever, not out of shape like some guys. But I'm not naming names... achoo-lemond!
PLAYBOY: During that sneeze one side of your mouth mentioned Greg LeMond, your boyhood hero, who won three Tours but now rips you. He suspects you're a doper. What's your relationship with LeMond? ARMSTRONG:: None. What he did in 1989 and 1990 was phenomenal. But Greg's not even worth talking about today. And I don't need to hear from him -- he'd only shove his foot farther down his mouth."
What I always found stupid about greg is how he in his latter years would always talk up his chances in the tour and falter miserably. year after year.
Come on now - even when Greg was winning we ALL knew he was a whiny little baby. That didn't stop him from winning but let's face it - he never had to grow up and he plainly didn't.
Lance is something else altogether. I expect to see some really big things from him in the future. He isn't just a pair of legs attached to a brain the size of a vole's.
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Looks like the author reads rbr because Lafferty was mentioned: "He is also reviled by a vocal minority who call him a dope-abusing slimeball."
I don't recall Lafferty evel calling LANCE a slimeball. Anyway vocal minority sounds like a good name for a rock band.
The furthest I gone is to say that, IMO, a prima facae case has been made that Armstrong has used illegal performance enhancing substances. That could be rebutted by direct answers from Armstrong to the difficult questions that all but Walsh and Ballestier are willing to ask. Perhaps some of those questions will be asked in any of several court cases involving Armstrong,strong--a point that Daniel Coyle has made in his book and in interviews.
Vocal minorities are always better than silent majorities. :-)
The furthest I gone is to say that, IMO, a prima facae case has been made that Armstrong has used illegal performance enhancing substances.
You obviously don't know the meaning of prima facae.
Do tell us the meaning of "prima facae" also spelled "facie" (mostly in the US).
It's French, right?
PRIMA FACIE: Latin for "at first view." Refers to the minimum amount of evidence a plaintiff must have to avoid having a case dismissed. It is said that the plaintiff must make a prima facie case.
>The furthest I gone is to say that, IMO, a prima facae case has been >made >that Armstrong has used illegal performance enhancing substances.
You obviously don't know the meaning of prima facae.
Do tell us the meaning of "prima facae" also spelled "facie" (mostly in the US).
It's French, right?
PRIMA FACIE: Latin for "at first view." Refers to the minimum amount of evidence a plaintiff must have to avoid having a case dismissed. It is said that the plaintiff must make a prima facie case.
Interesting interview, but I was a bit suprised that Lance is still so irritated with Lemond. It's really too bad that Lemond and Lance don't have a better relationship. I just hope that Lance will play a bigger role in US cycling then Lemond has. I think that Lemond could have really helped racing in the US if he did more.
"PLAYBOY: If you win another Tour or three, will you retire, sit around on the couch and get fat? ARMSTRONG:: I'll be a fitness junkie forever, not out of shape like some guys. But I'm not naming names... achoo-lemond!
PLAYBOY: During that sneeze one side of your mouth mentioned Greg LeMond, your boyhood hero, who won three Tours but now rips you. He suspects you're a doper. What's your relationship with LeMond? ARMSTRONG:: None. What he did in 1989 and 1990 was phenomenal. But Greg's not even worth talking about today. And I don't need to hear from him -- he'd only shove his foot farther down his mouth."
What a sad, unclassy, anger-fueled, immature side of Armstrong he shows us. So much for the modesty and grace he supposedly developed as a cancer victim, then survivor. Those qualities are apparently saved for his loyal friends and briefly after refreshers in media training.
Did he have the same ugly words for Merckx before Merckx lost weight last year?
Lemond shoving his foot farther down his mouth? Et tu, Lance.
You obviously don't know the meaning of prima facae.
Do tell us the meaning of "prima facae" also spelled "facie" (mostly in the US).
Prime Feces := [censored] "at the face" circumstantial evidence
Prima Facie \PRY-muh-FAY-shee; -shuh\, adverb: At first view; on the first appearance.
================================================= adjective: 1. True, valid, or adequate at first sight; as it seems at first sight; ostensible. 2. Self-evident; obvious. 3. (Law) Sufficient to establish a fact or a case unless disproved. =================================================
PF is not circumstantial. The only real PF evidence of doping is a confirmed positive blood test. That is sufficent to establish the fact of doping. Even possession would not, in itself, be PF evidence that someone actually took dope.
So to say there's a PF case is simply incorrect.
If you want a legal term to describe LA and drugs, you might try reasonable suspicion and even that's a stretch. Reasonable suspicion is the standard (in the US) that allows police agencies to conduct an investigation and/or obtain search warrants and wire taps.
PF is not circumstantial. The only real PF evidence of doping is a confirmed positive blood test. That is sufficent to establish the fact of doping. Even possession would not, in itself, be PF evidence that someone actually took dope.
So to say there's a PF case is simply incorrect.
If you want a legal term to describe LA and drugs, you might try reasonable suspicion and even that's a stretch. Reasonable suspicion is the standard (in the US) that allows police agencies to conduct an investigation and/or obtain search warrants and wire taps.
Well, Lance is doing much better than Marion Jones, who has been systematically excluded from invitational events, despite never having tested positive. Like Lance, her accusers are untrustworthy people with an axe to grind.
What I always found stupid about greg is how he in his latter years would always talk up his chances in the tour and falter miserably. year after year.
He was always *fat* too... wonder if that had anything to do with his performance? Nah... everybody else was/is on drugs... that has to be it!
Interesting interview, but I was a bit suprised that Lance is still so irritated with Lemond. It's really too bad that Lemond and Lance don't have a better relationship. I just hope that Lance will play a bigger role in US cycling then Lemond has. I think that Lemond could have really helped racing in the US if he did more.
"PLAYBOY: If you win another Tour or three, will you retire, sit around on the couch and get fat? ARMSTRONG:: I'll be a fitness junkie forever, not out of shape like some guys. But I'm not naming names... achoo-lemond!
PLAYBOY: During that sneeze one side of your mouth mentioned Greg LeMond, your boyhood hero, who won three Tours but now rips you. He suspects you're a doper. What's your relationship with LeMond? ARMSTRONG:: None. What he did in 1989 and 1990 was phenomenal. But Greg's not even worth talking about today. And I don't need to hear from him -- he'd only shove his foot farther down his mouth."
What a sad, unclassy, anger-fueled, immature side of Armstrong he shows us. So much for the modesty and grace he supposedly developed as a cancer victim, then survivor. Those qualities are apparently saved for his loyal friends and briefly after refreshers in media training.
Did he have the same ugly words for Merckx before Merckx lost weight last year?
Lemond shoving his foot farther down his mouth? Et tu, Lance.
In the interview Armstrong tells how devastated he was by those who abandoned him. Left him for dead. Imagine living and breathing and treated like the dead. After that he could see clearly who his friends are. GL is not one of them. You want Armstrong to play kissy face with that?
