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  1. http://www.students.stedwards.edu/~sgottne/summ5.htm

    Over Diagnosis of ADHD, Overuse of Ritalin, and its Causes

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    Over the past several years, there has been extensive discussion concerning the
    over diagnosis of ADHD and the prescribing of Ritalin or other
    anti-depressants. Many issues and causes have been discussed including the
    changing of the biochemistry of the brain. Many researchers and doctors have
    suggested that ADHD/ADD can simply be treated by supplementing children with
    multi-vitamins. Other concerns have been the food we feed our children, which
    have an overabundance of processed chemicals, artificial sugar, and artificial
    ingredients.

    Ritalin is equal to that of cocaine or amphetamines, however, Ritalin is more
    potent and lasts longer (Gerson 1). Ritalin can cause permanent damage to the
    child's brain and function. Many side effects include weight gain, stunting
    growth, sleeplessness, moodiness, and depression. It has been reported that
    some children on Ritalin have reported feelings of suicide. Several of the
    teenagers who have participated in school shootings were on Ritalin or
    anti-depressants or both including one of the killers at Columbine High School
    (Gerson 2). In fact, children who have been on Ritalin for long periods are
    being rejected from all branches of military since Ritalin is a mind-altering
    drug.

    Still there is not complete research as to what causes ADHD. There are many
    theories and ideas. However, the increase of its diagnosis also can be
    contributed to parents and teachers being more educated on the subject. Others
    see the increase in the diagnosis of attention deficit disorders may have a
    direct link to technology and the increased use of computer games. Computer
    games require a longer attention at a faster rate. These children may have a
    difficulty in maintaining their attention span in a classroom setting because
    it is at a slower pace and they become bored. Many teachers see this as an
    attention problem. One researcher indicated that it "may be essential to have
    limited exposure to computers and computer games in the home and in the school
    until after the third grade" (Monroe).

    In addition, with an increase in "outcome-based educational systems"
    nationwide, it is interesting to also see it being linked to the rise in
    diagnosis of ADHD. Because of minimum standards children must meet, teachers do
    not have the time to deal with children that are inattentive and disruptive.
    This leads to teachers who are eager to suggest that inattentive children show
    signs of ADHD and should be prescribed Ritalin to improve a child's
    performance. In an effort not to medicate their children, some parents are
    searching out schools that tailor to children with attention problems. These
    programs or schools may not have to meet specific standards of educational
    measurement.

    Obviously, if your child is diagnosed with ADHD or ADD, definitely one must
    consider all available options before choosing to medicate them with Ritalin or
    any other anti-depressants. It is worthwhile to attempt other holistic
    approaches first.

    Bibliography

    Gerson, Charlotte. "Overuse and Dangers for Hyperactive Children." Gerson
    Healing Newsletter Vol. 15, No. 3, May-June 2000. 14 April 2001
    http://www.Gerson.org/healing/articles/nl_ritalin.htm

    Livingston, Ken. "Ritalin: Miracle Drug or Cop-Out?" PBS.org - The Public
    Interest, No. 127 (Spring 1997), pp. 3-18. 14 April 2001
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/medicating/readings/publicin
    terest.html

    Monroe, Dana. "Instant Gratification and Overuse of Technology May Be Linked to
    Attention Disorders" College of Education and Educational Technology,
    Technology in the Curriculum, Indiana University of Pennsylvania, 11 November
    2000. 14 April 2001 http://www.coe.iup.edu/c&I-iup/740/Entries/Dana-5.htm

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    http://www.students.stedwards.edu/~sgottne/summ5.htm

    Written by an undergrad....

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    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    http://www.students.stedwards.edu/~sgottne/summ5.htm

    Written by an undergrad....

    And, not one very good at researching a subject or writing a decent
    paper. I only hope this was a remedial English paper, and not one for
    a college-level psychology, health, or science class. In all honesty,
    I've seen better papers than this from a middle-schooler.

    Only three citations. One to a PBS show and one to an alt-med
    "newletter"! (And, who knows what that citation to something written
    by Dana Monroe is. Could be another student paper.) Not one
    peer-reviewed study.

    And, certainly, no evidence that the writer has weighed the validity
    of what he/she read.

    Not to mention the factual errors. Ritalin is a anti-depressant?
    Someone who doesn't know that Ritalin is a stimulant lacks the kind of
    very basic knowledge to write a paper on ADHD.

    Bad research. Bad writing. Lacks evidence of critical thinking. I give
    it a "D-," at best. And that's really being generous.

  4. When was the last time you were depressed and stimulated?
    "OpusHugr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Mark ProbertJanuary 8, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote


    in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://www.students.stedwards.edu/~sgottne/summ5.htm

    Written by an undergrad....

    And, not one very good at researching a subject or writing a decent
    paper. I only hope this was a remedial English paper, and not one for
    a college-level psychology, health, or science class. In all honesty,
    I've seen better papers than this from a middle-schooler.

    Only three citations. One to a PBS show and one to an alt-med
    "newletter"! (And, who knows what that citation to something written
    by Dana Monroe is. Could be another student paper.) Not one
    peer-reviewed study.

    And, certainly, no evidence that the writer has weighed the validity
    of what he/she read.

    Not to mention the factual errors. Ritalin is a anti-depressant?
    Someone who doesn't know that Ritalin is a stimulant lacks the kind of
    very basic knowledge to write a paper on ADHD.

    Bad research. Bad writing. Lacks evidence of critical thinking. I give
    it a "D-," at best. And that's really being generous.

  5. "OpusHugr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Mark ProbertJanuary 8, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote


    in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://www.students.stedwards.edu/~sgottne/summ5.htm

    Written by an undergrad....

    And, not one very good at researching a subject or writing a decent
    paper. I only hope this was a remedial English paper, and not one for
    a college-level psychology, health, or science class. In all honesty,
    I've seen better papers than this from a middle-schooler.

    Only three citations. One to a PBS show and one to an alt-med
    "newletter"! (And, who knows what that citation to something written
    by Dana Monroe is. Could be another student paper.) Not one
    peer-reviewed study.

    And, certainly, no evidence that the writer has weighed the validity
    of what he/she read.

    Not to mention the factual errors. Ritalin is a anti-depressant?
    Someone who doesn't know that Ritalin is a stimulant lacks the kind of
    very basic knowledge to write a paper on ADHD.

    Bad research. Bad writing. Lacks evidence of critical thinking. I give
    it a "D-," at best. And that's really being generous.

    Too generous. It was also probably too short.

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    Subject: Re: Over Diagnosis Of ADHD, Overuse Of Ritalin
    From: [email hidden] (OpusHugr)
    Date: 1/8/2004 9:26 PM Pacific Standard Time
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    "Mark ProbertJanuary 8, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://www.students.stedwards.edu/~sgottne/summ5.htm

    Written by an undergrad....

    A nice excuse for Mark.

    He overlooks:

    Ritalin is equal to that of cocaine or amphetamines, however, Ritalin is more
    potent and lasts longer (Gerson 1). Ritalin can cause permanent damage to the
    child's brain and function. Many side effects include weight gain, stunting
    growth, sleeplessness, moodiness, and depression. It has been reported that
    some children on Ritalin have reported feelings of suicide. Several of the
    teenagers who have participated in school shootings were on Ritalin or
    anti-depressants or both including one of the killers at Columbine High School
    (Gerson 2). In fact, children who have been on Ritalin for long periods are
    being rejected from all branches of military since Ritalin is a mind-altering
    drug.

    Quoted message said:

    Not to mention the factual errors. Ritalin is a anti-depressant?
    Someone who doesn't know that Ritalin is a stimulant lacks the kind of
    very basic knowledge to write a paper on ADHD.

    Better read it again.

    Quoted message said:

    Bad research. Bad writing. Lacks evidence of critical thinking. I give
    it a "D-," at best. And that's really being generous.

    Over diagnosis and overuse of Ritaln is the subject, not who wrote the article.

    Typical of Mark to try and divert.

    Sad that you join him.

    Jan

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    Subject: Re: Over Diagnosis Of ADHD, Overuse Of Ritalin
    From: [email hidden] (OpusHugr)
    Date: 1/8/2004 9:26 PM Pacific Standard Time
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    "Mark ProbertJanuary 8, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote


    in

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    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > http://www.students.stedwards.edu/~sgottne/summ5.htm

    Written by an undergrad....

    A nice excuse for Mark.

    He overlooks:

    NOTHING!

    Quoted message said:

    Ritalin is equal to that of cocaine or amphetamines, however, Ritalin is


    more

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    potent and lasts longer (Gerson 1).

    However, the writer ignores the copious research showing that this is a
    function of the method of uptake, not the medication. IOW, they last equally
    as long, when taken the same way.

    Quoted message said:

    Ritalin can cause permanent damage to the
    child's brain and function.

    Not actually proven.

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    Many side effects include weight gain, stunting
    growth,

    The whiners have, for years, claimed it makes people too skinny and short.
    You cannot have it both ways.

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    sleeplessness, moodiness, and depression. It has been reported that
    some children on Ritalin have reported feelings of suicide.

    However, there is no proof that these feelings are related to the
    mediations. Perhaps they are related to reading Jan Drew posts.

    Several of the

    Quoted message said:

    teenagers who have participated in school shootings were on Ritalin or
    anti-depressants or both including one of the killers at Columbine High


    School

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    (Gerson 2).

    However, the NTAC study of all of the school shootings in the US showed no
    correlation. Strange that.

    Quoted message said:

    In fact, children who have been on Ritalin for long periods are
    being rejected from all branches of military since Ritalin is a


    mind-altering

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    drug.

    It is not surprising, but, it is not automatic. there is at least one poster
    in this group who wa son meds and ran a nuclear power plant. However, the
    military does not want to have to deal with pre-existing medical problems of
    nearly all types.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not to mention the factual errors. Ritalin is a anti-depressant?
    Someone who doesn't know that Ritalin is a stimulant lacks the kind of
    very basic knowledge to write a paper on ADHD.

    Better read it again.

    I did. It is you with the comprehension problem.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bad research. Bad writing. Lacks evidence of critical thinking. I give
    it a "D-," at best. And that's really being generous.

    Over diagnosis and overuse of Ritaln is the subject, not who wrote the


    article.

    Actually, underdiagnosis and undertreatment, because of uninformed
    closedminded knee-jerk know nothings is the problem.

    Quoted message said:

    Typical of Mark to try and divert.

    Typical of you to think posting facts is diversion.

    Quoted message said:

    Sad that you join him.

    nope. It is wodnerful that there are those people who have thinking minds to
    answer the likes of you.

    Quoted message said:

    Jan

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