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Flyer -- What would a mix of sleeping pills and stimulants do?

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  1. As reported in a thread on this forum, what would this mix do (say Valium and ephedrine/amphetamine). It seems to be similar in construct to the Pot Belge idea of mixing stimulants (Coke) with downers/euphorics -- morphine and heroin. Morphine would kill the pain no doubt.

    Benzodiazipines are prescribed for back-pain as well as anxiety disorders etc and the ephedrine must overcome the effects of delayed reaction time etc. Or would the sleeping pills have been a barbituate or opioid? These would cause the muscles to relax...no?
    Speculation please...

  2. Borg said:

    As reported in a thread on this forum, what would this mix do (say Valium and ephedrine/amphetamine). It seems to be similar in construct to the Pot Belge idea of mixing stimulants (Coke) with downers/euphorics -- morphine and heroin. Morphine would kill the pain no doubt.

    Benzodiazipines are prescribed for back-pain as well as anxiety disorders etc and the ephedrine must overcome the effects of delayed reaction time etc. Or would the sleeping pills have been a barbituate or opioid? These would cause the muscles to relax...no?
    Speculation please...

    Just don't take a laxative with that combination.

  3. Th concept of combining powerful drugs---blended just right, in a proper dose, has been around for centuries.

    Even Elvis Presley was using cocktails of cancer drugs and amphetamines--chased with sleeping pills.

    My understanding, (I am not a athletic performance-based drug addict) is that the athlete seeks:

    1) Pain abatement so as to push 100%, without doubt and devoid of pain feelings.

    2) anti-inflammatory for maximum use of all muscle groups.

    3) a sense of euphoria which fuels confidence

    4) alertness and overcoming fatigue.

    5) more endurance

    6) stimulated heart rate prior to a TT effort.

    Add in all the other stuff, anemia products, vasodilators etc... and you fuel a rocketship.

    It is certainly possible to overdose on any one of the doping elements and actually [censored] PERFORMANCE or worse, have a heart attack/stroke.

    Dr. Michele Ferrari would be unemployed without a clear understanding of how to use/abuse these drugs.

    The fact that Lance spend 10+ years with such a corrupt doper/trainer forever condems Lance and taints all of his recent successes (1996-2005). Lance has ZERO credibility with anti-doping. NONE.

    He is a joke, and his sport is a joke.

    The TDF is all about the strongest drug addict, not the finest natural athlete.

    [quote="Borg"]As reported in a thread on this forum, what would this mix do (say Valium and ephedrine/amphetamine). It seems to be similar in construct to the Pot Belge idea of mixing stimulants (Coke) with downers/euphorics -- morphine and heroin. Morphine would kill the pain no doubt.

    Benzodiazipines are prescribed for back-pain as well as anxiety disorders etc and the ephedrine must overcome the effects of delayed reaction time etc. Or would the sleeping pills have been a barbituate or opioid? These would cause the muscles to relax...no?
    Speculation please...

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