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  1. "Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    There is no set of rules that must be followed
    about how to post.

    Certainly, nntp is just code and bits and storage. And
    alt.* is even more free-range in content and control
    than the big 5. Posters' choice, yes, what and how
    you respond,-- and others now, and those before, also
    here by choice, or no longer here by choice.

    There are other metaphors that comes to mind regarding
    stones and ARBR, think recurring kidney stones... %^(

    And then there's maybe out of context the song,

    I'll put a pebble in my shoe
    [...]
    I shall call the pebble dare
    We will walk together about walking
    Dare shall be carried
    And when we both have had enough
    I will take him from my shoe singing,
    "Meet your new road."

    Had enough? Time for Dare to meet the new road? %^)

    My question: What do you lend him by engagement and
    what is the broader effect? Not that it matters...

    Jon Meinecke

  2. Edward Dolan wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Basically, I see myself as a mighty roaring god having to swat midges and
    gnats here on ARBR. I am overwhelmed by the trivia that gets posted on this
    forum. I feel I ought to get some kind of an award and/or acclamation for my
    efforts here on behalf of the group, but no man is a prophet in his home
    country. Some day the Lilliputians will not have Ed Dolan the Great to kick
    around anymore and then they will be sorry.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

    Heh...when that day comes, would you prefer be kicked around by the
    Brobdignagians or the Yahoos?

    Best,

    Dan

  3. "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    My question: What do you lend him by engagement and
    what is the broader effect? Not that it matters...

    I'm a slow learner and he show glimmers of rationality at times but I think
    I've finally got it. I hope that is the last time I'm sucked into one of his
    idiotic tirades.

    Jeff

  4. "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    There is no set of rules that must be followed
    about how to post.

    Certainly, nntp is just code and bits and storage. And
    alt.* is even more free-range in content and control
    than the big 5. Posters' choice, yes, what and how
    you respond,-- and others now, and those before, also
    here by choice, or no longer here by choice.


    [...]

    And pray tell, what is "the big 5?"

    I do note a lot of "alt." in connection with various newsgroups. Is this a
    downgrade I wonder? Why aren't we just "rec.?"

    I know that Jon Meinecke knows this stuff, but he is a kill filer and so is
    out of the loop of ARBR - except for trivial posts that start nowhere and go
    nowhere. Anyone else know?
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    My question: What do you lend him by engagement and
    what is the broader effect? Not that it matters...

    Here is Jon Meinecke at his very worst, taking Jeff Grippe to task because
    we are having an interesting and enjoyable conversation about top posting,
    abortion, New York Jews, sex, etc. Why, oh why can't we be boring and dead
    like old Jon is. That is the question that he is asking.

    Jealousy and spite is ever what Jon Meinecke is all about. He is right down
    there with old Cletus Lee of Texas, another jackass who never knew which way
    was up.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  5. "Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1123007555.2e68f61f32e03b0fc47ca4fe2011a87c@teranews...

    Quoted message said:

    "Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    My question: What do you lend him by engagement and
    what is the broader effect? Not that it matters...

    I'm a slow learner and he show glimmers of rationality at times but I
    think I've finally got it. I hope that is the last time I'm sucked into
    one of his idiotic tirades.

    Jeff

    When I pass Tom Sherman as the most prolific poster ever to ARBR you can
    look forward to a momentous announcement by me. I will expect
    congratulations and best wishes from all and sundry. Some of you may want to
    send me special gifts. Only soreheads like Meinecke will refuse to
    acknowledge my Greatness. Stay tuned!

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, Edward Dolan

    Quoted message said:

    "Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1123007555.2e68f61f32e03b0fc47ca4fe2011a87c@teranews...

    Quoted message said:

    "Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    My question: What do you lend him by engagement and
    what is the broader effect? Not that it matters...

    I'm a slow learner and he show glimmers of rationality at times but I
    think I've finally got it. I hope that is the last time I'm sucked into
    one of his idiotic tirades.

    Jeff

    When I pass Tom Sherman as the most prolific poster ever to ARBR you can
    look forward to a momentous announcement by me. I will expect
    congratulations and best wishes from all and sundry. Some of you may want to
    send me special gifts. Only soreheads like Meinecke will refuse to
    acknowledge my Greatness. Stay tuned!

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota


    How cute!
    Eddie misses his play friend Tom Sherman.

  7. "Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    My question: What do you lend him by engagement and
    what is the broader effect? Not that it matters...

    I'm a slow learner

    Not from what I've seen,-- simply more patient than most.

    A number of posters have attempted to respond to even
    the most irrational and abusive posts rationally. Some have
    tried polite appeals with humor. Some have tried logic.
    A few have sunk to his level.

    Some have reached a different conclusion with respect
    to the master baiters' games and the continued useful
    existence of ARBR.

    "The only way to win the game, is not to play at all."
    -- WOPR, _War Games_

    Quoted message said:

    show glimmers of rationality at times

    May be genuine. May be a ploy. Doesn't matter.
    The continuing effect is to command attention, attract
    certain responses, and in the opinion of many, reduce
    the topical and community appeal of the newsgroup.

    A number of posters of many years standing here, generous
    with their expertise, experience, and helpful observations
    are no longer actively participating. *Their choice.*

    Many left when the norm of constructive interaction and
    friendly discourse became more and more exceptional,
    overwhelmed by vulgar insult and abuse in an ever more
    "look at me, look at me" exhibition by one who functions
    as a veritable black hole of wisdom and insight. *His
    choice.*

    Our choice, if we value this community, remains as
    always,-- Do we take the bait?

    Jon Meinecke

  8. "Slugger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Edward Dolan

    Quoted message said:

    "Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1123007555.2e68f61f32e03b0fc47ca4fe2011a87c@teranews...
    > "Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote

    > My question: What do you lend him by engagement and
    > what is the broader effect? Not that it matters...
    >

    I'm a slow learner and he show glimmers of rationality at times but I
    think I've finally got it. I hope that is the last time I'm sucked into
    one of his idiotic tirades.

    Jeff

    When I pass Tom Sherman as the most prolific poster ever to ARBR you can
    look forward to a momentous announcement by me. I will expect
    congratulations and best wishes from all and sundry. Some of you may want
    to
    send me special gifts. Only soreheads like Meinecke will refuse to
    acknowledge my Greatness. Stay tuned!

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota


    How cute!
    Eddie misses his play friend Tom Sherman.

    Tom Sherman is not missed, neither by me nor anyone else. He was a plodder,
    much like Meinecke. The few times he ever got inspired was when he came
    under my influence. He was a dyed in the wool liberal and therefore
    hopeless - much like upyerbumbum Slugger that way. The only difference is
    that I had to more careful around Tom because he showed glimmers of
    intelligence from time to time, something Slugger never does.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  9. "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1123070955.23326337c0a5616ca1fd9762d5182b65@teranews...

    Quoted message said:

    "Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    My question: What do you lend him by engagement and
    what is the broader effect? Not that it matters...

    I'm a slow learner

    Not from what I've seen,-- simply more patient than most.

    Here is Meinecke trying to ingratiate himself with Jeff. The question is
    will Jeff fall for it. These New York Jews, whatever else you might want to
    say about them, are at least smart and not easily taken in by weasel words.
    Stay tuned.

    Quoted message said:

    A number of posters have attempted to respond to even
    the most irrational and abusive posts rationally. Some have
    tried polite appeals with humor. Some have tried logic.
    A few have sunk to his level.

    Some have reached a different conclusion with respect
    to the master baiters' games and the continued useful
    existence of ARBR.

    Here is Meinecke trying to be a bit foul, but without going overboard. He
    likes to play on the words "master baiter," as much as his limited wit will
    permit. Just because he is into masturbating doesn't mean a Great Saint like
    Saint Edward is. It is really funny when these heavy Germanic types like
    Meinecke try to contest with quicksilver Gaelic types like myself.

    Quoted message said:

    "The only way to win the game, is not to play at all."
    -- WOPR, _War Games_

    Quoted message said:

    show glimmers of rationality at times

    May be genuine. May be a ploy. Doesn't matter.
    The continuing effect is to command attention, attract
    certain responses, and in the opinion of many, reduce
    the topical and community appeal of the newsgroup.

    I made short work of Meinecke many years ago when he pretended to be a
    professor of intelligence. Very funny. Discussing anything with him is like
    talking to a dead man. Abandon hope, all ye who enter into a conversation
    with Meinecke!

    Thank God this nut case has kill filled me. Now I can tell the rest of the
    group what to think of him without having to put up with his feeble
    protestations.

    Quoted message said:

    A number of posters of many years standing here, generous
    with their expertise, experience, and helpful observations
    are no longer actively participating. *Their choice.*

    They are mostly to be found on BROL now where they continue to post their
    idiocies to the delight of other numskulls. Why not go there and stay there
    if you like those kind of moronic posts. The HPV lists are another good
    source for getting bored out of your skull.

    Quoted message said:

    Many left when the norm of constructive interaction and
    friendly discourse became more and more exceptional,
    overwhelmed by vulgar insult and abuse in an ever more
    "look at me, look at me" exhibition by one who functions
    as a veritable black hole of wisdom and insight. *His
    choice.*

    This group was taken down by a single criminal vandal troll. Meinecke was no
    where to be found when it occurred. I have nothing but contempt for him
    because he would not defend the group when it came under attack.

    I charge Meinecke with being a coward. Why he even professes to have any
    concern for this group is one of the supreme mysteries when there was not a
    peep out of him when the criminal vandal troll was destroying this group.
    Meinecke is too despicable for words!

    Yes, he will take on me through proxies (he is a kill filer who does not
    directly take me on ever) because he knows he is dealing with a gentleman
    and a scholar. If I am also a bit of a troll, I am a good and law abiding
    troll. Meinecke only shows a bare minimum of guts when he is dealing (via
    proxies) with a Great Saint like myself.

    When Meinecke has to deal with a real flesh and blood criminal vandal troll,
    his guts turn yellow. If he had any brains at all that was in any way
    connected to his gut, he would have the good grace to never mention this
    subject (the welfare of the group) again and move on. My opinion of him is
    set in concrete and it is never going to change.

    When it came time for Meinecke to show what he was made of, he did a
    disappearing act. When confronted with a real troll, a criminal vandal
    troll, he was nowhere to be found. His hypocrisy is monumental and he has no
    credibility whatsoever on this issue of concern for ARBR. He was as one with
    Tom Sherman, another coward who took to the tall grass when the going got
    rough.

    Quoted message said:

    Our choice, if we value this community, remains as
    always,-- Do we take the bait?

    Jon Meinecke

    Meinecke sure does not value this group as he would not defend it when it
    came under attack. Such cowardice revolts me. Meinecke is nothing but a
    whiner and complainer who has the peculiar knack of never saying anything
    the least bit interesting. I do not know how you get to be such a dull
    person. I think maybe you have to be born that way or else take special
    instruction in how to become tiresome.

    Meinecke needs to take a cue from that other major ARBR coward, Tom Sherman,
    and leave this group forever since he has shown where his loyalties lie. He
    will be happiest on BROL with all the other dullards and idiots to be found
    there. Mr. Ball, the moderator of that forum and the quintessential liberal
    who thought is was just fine for liberals to post to ARBR but not for
    conservatives, will welcome him with open arms. It will be a marriage made
    in Hell like all marriages.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  10. "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1123070955.23326337c0a5616ca1fd9762d5182b65@teranews...
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Our choice, if we value this community, remains as
    always,-- Do we take the bait?

    Jon Meinecke

    Choice was the theme of Meinecke's latest outrageous post to the group.

    Yes, Meinecke certainly did have a choice when the criminal vandal troll was
    here destroying the group last winter. He chose not to say anything at all.
    That other great coward, Tom Sherman, also chose not to say anything at all.

    Instead of blathering about choice, maybe Meinecke could enlighten the group
    on why he did not enter into the fray when the group was being destroyed.

    Who values the community when it comes under attack, someone who defends it
    or someone who absents himself? Too many like Meinecke and Sherman and we
    can all cash in our chips and prepare to go to Hell.

    Choice indeed!

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  11. Re: Meinecke

    Wow Eddie. You really don't like him do you?

  12. "Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Re: Meinecke

    Wow Eddie. You really don't like him do you?

    Meinecke to his credit does not mention me by name, but we all know who he
    is talking about. I say to his credit because he has kill filed me and
    therefore never knows what I am saying fully. He only gets me in bits and
    pieces from others who quote me at least partially in their responses. He is
    another Cletus Lee who used to operate this way too. They are birds of a
    feather - ostriches.

    Meinecke is a very underhanded kind of character, almost like a woman that
    way. I DO mention him by name over and over because I want the group to know
    what kind of scoundrel he is. I think we men admire open and above board
    kind of guys who do not beat about the bush. Now, of course, I am talking
    about myself.

    Meinecke ought to direct his complaints to me instead of to the ether. But I
    will know how to respond to him no matter how he chooses to evade me when he
    is whining about me to newbies like Jeff.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  13. On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 07:11:07 -0500, "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    <Major Snipage>

    Quoted message said:


    Our choice, if we value this community, remains as
    always,-- Do we take the bait?

    Jon Meinecke

    I trwoo-woo-woohly wooden touch it! It stinks!

    Indiana Mike

  14. "Mike Rice" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 07:11:07 -0500, "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    <Major Snipage>

    Quoted message said:


    Our choice, if we value this community, remains as
    always,-- Do we take the bait?

    Jon Meinecke

    I trwoo-woo-woohly wooden touch it! It stinks!

    Indiana Mike

    Newbies come and go and so do some of the regulars who can't take the heat.
    The newbies get their two bits worth of information about recumbents and go
    away feeling good about ARBR. Some of the regulars go to BROL where,
    provided they are sufficiently dumb and stupid, are satisfied, and others,
    the ones with brains, miss the give and take of ARBR and soon return. ARBR
    is for adults. If you are not an adult, then be gone and stay gone.

    Many thanks Ed for keeping this group interesting and alive. Without you
    ARBR would be the pits, even worse than BROL and the HPV lists. By God Ed,
    if I do say so myself, you are truly Great - and I know you are a Great
    Saint too. Keep up the good work!

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  15. Edward Dolan said:

    a very underhanded kind of character, almost like a woman that
    way.

    I'll take this bait. You've inferred to disdain liberals, non-whites and
    non-Americans, and now there is this. Please explain why you feel this
    way about women. Also, what does it have to do with cycling? Thanks.
    Steve

  16. "Steve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    a very underhanded kind of character, almost like a woman that way.

    I'll take this bait. You've inferred to disdain liberals, non-whites and
    non-Americans, and now there is this. Please explain why you feel this way
    about women. Also, what does it have to do with cycling? Thanks.
    Steve

    I dislike having to explain the obvious.

    Women, as all the world knows, are inferior to men in intelligence and
    physical prowess. Therefore, it is their way to be underhanded and devious
    to get what they want. Meinecke reminds me of a woman the way he will not
    confront me directly, but instead makes his remarks about me indirectly via
    posts to others. Those others have their own opportunities to come to their
    own conclusions about me without any help from the likes of a third party
    like Meinecke who behaves like a woman. Glad I was able to clear that up for
    you!

    If Steve thinks Americans are not the best, that Whites are not the best and
    that Conservatives are not the best, then why doesn't he go somewhere where
    he can be among the best as he sees it. I suggest Nigeria to him.

    He might want to think about having his sex changed too if he thinks women
    are smarter and stronger than men. However, women are infinitely better than
    men in almost every other respect. Some women are as bad as they are because
    they have been corrupted by men. But women are just naturally good; in fact,
    they are all saints compared to Steve and I.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

    PS. Is ARBR about cycling? I hadn't noticed.

  17. Steve,

    It has nothing to do with cycling and everything to do with his real
    favorite topic which is Ed Dolan.

    He is so intent on being the top poster that he is increasing his numbers by
    leaving messages in praise of himself. It reminds me of the 2000 election in
    a roundabout sort of way.

    Jeff

    PS I'm sorry if the content of this message was at all unclear due to
    top-posting.

    "Steve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    a very underhanded kind of character, almost like a woman that way.

    I'll take this bait. You've inferred to disdain liberals, non-whites and
    non-Americans, and now there is this. Please explain why you feel this way
    about women. Also, what does it have to do with cycling? Thanks.
    Steve

  18. Jeff,
    At least he's unlikely to father/ have fathered many children, if his
    disdain for women is genuine. BTW, your message was perfectly clear.
    Steve

    Jeff Grippe said:

    Steve,

    It has nothing to do with cycling and everything to do with his real
    favorite topic which is Ed Dolan.

    He is so intent on being the top poster that he is increasing his numbers by
    leaving messages in praise of himself. It reminds me of the 2000 election in
    a roundabout sort of way.

    Jeff

    PS I'm sorry if the content of this message was at all unclear due to
    top-posting.

    "Steve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    a very underhanded kind of character, almost like a woman that way.

    I'll take this bait. You've inferred to disdain liberals, non-whites and
    non-Americans, and now there is this. Please explain why you feel this way
    about women. Also, what does it have to do with cycling? Thanks.
    Steve

  19. Jeff Grippe' jeff@door7 said:

    Steve,

    It has nothing to do with cycling and everything to do with his real
    favorite topic which is Ed Dolan.

    He is so intent on being the top poster

    Now, now, Jeff. I thought you *at least* by now now knew how Mr. Ed
    feels about 'top posters'.

    Indiana Mike

    Quoted message said:

    that he is increasing his numbers by
    leaving messages in praise of himself. It reminds me of the 2000 election in
    a roundabout sort of way.

    Jeff

    PS I'm sorry if the content of this message was at all unclear due to
    top-posting.

    Come to think of it, I bet that no matter how many irrelevant,
    off-topic, egocentric posts (and I'll admit right now that he
    occassionaly includes something recumbent oriented, if only to shock)
    Mr. Ed can rack up, no matter the numbers, he will never be the top
    poster that Mr. Grippe is.

    Quoted message said:


    "Steve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    a very underhanded kind of character, almost like a woman that way.

    I'll take this bait. You've inferred to disdain liberals, non-whites and
    non-Americans, and now there is this. Please explain why you feel this way
    about women. Also, what does it have to do with cycling? Thanks.
    Steve


  20. Certainly I know, Mike. Did you think the top posting was an accident?

    "Mike Rice" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 19:25:27 -0400, "Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7> wrote:

    Now, now, Jeff. I thought you *at least* by now now knew how Mr. Ed
    feels about 'top posters'.

    Indiana Mike

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