What happens to the road?

"Gonzalez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'm planning my Land's End to John O'Groats ride.

I'm painstakingly going over the ride at 1:25,000 scale, and marking down grid references so my
GPS can guide me away from main roads. Weaving a route through the Midlands, is proving to be
especially tricky - but I thought I had found a way until I found this...

getamap.co.ukgetamap.co.ukOpen ↗ (Click on *Get-a-map*)

Tap in grid reference SJ703837 and click <go>

Burford Lane seems to end at the canal and Mill Lane carries on the other side. Now look at it on
the 1:50,000 survey. It looks like the road goes under the canal. But on the 1:250,000 survey it
appears to keep going. On multimap:

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The road seems to cross the canal at the 1:10,000 scale.

What happens? Does anyone know?

As always, www.streetmap.co.uk provides better results -- especially when provided with the
correct data.

ITYM SJ703873.

Streetmap confirms :-

1. OS shows the road goes under the canal

2. That the road is the B5159 on both sides of the canal.

3. And is contiguous.

T

Tony W said:

"Gonzalez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'm planning my Land's End to John O'Groats ride.

I'm painstakingly going over the ride at 1:25,000 scale, and marking down grid references so my
GPS can guide me away from main roads. Weaving a route through the Midlands, is proving to be
especially tricky - but I thought I had found a way until I found this...

getamap.co.ukgetamap.co.ukOpen ↗ (Click on *Get-a-map*)

Tap in grid reference SJ703837 and click <go>

Burford Lane seems to end at the canal and Mill Lane carries on the other side. Now look at it on
the 1:50,000 survey. It looks like the road goes under the canal. But on the 1:250,000 survey it
appears to keep going. On multimap:

multimap.combrowse.cgiOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

The road seems to cross the canal at the 1:10,000 scale.

What happens? Does anyone know?

As always, www.streetmap.co.uk provides better results -- especially when provided with the
correct data.

ITYM SJ703873.

Streetmap confirms :-

1. OS shows the road goes under the canal

2. That the road is the B5159 on both sides of the canal.

3. And is contiguous.

I hope you mean continuous ;-) If it were contiguous you might expect a gap with nothing in between,
or perhaps a fence (or canal) across the road. If it's continuous you can reasonably expect to be
able to travel along it unimpeded!

Trev

"Trevor Barton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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3. And is contiguous.

I hope you mean continuous ;-) If it were contiguous you might expect a gap with nothing in
between, or perhaps a fence (or canal) across the

road.

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If it's continuous you can reasonably expect to be able to travel along it unimpeded!

Bloody spell checker.

: )

Tony W said:

"Gonzalez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'm planning my Land's End to John O'Groats ride.

I'm painstakingly going over the ride at 1:25,000 scale, and marking down grid references so my
GPS can guide me away from main roads. Weaving a route through the Midlands, is proving to be
especially tricky - but I thought I had found a way until I found this...

getamap.co.ukgetamap.co.ukOpen ↗ (Click on *Get-a-map*)

Tap in grid reference SJ703837 and click <go>

Burford Lane seems to end at the canal and Mill Lane carries on the other side. Now look at it on
the 1:50,000 survey. It looks like the road goes under the canal. But on the 1:250,000 survey it
appears to keep going. On multimap:

multimap.combrowse.cgiOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

The road seems to cross the canal at the 1:10,000 scale.

What happens? Does anyone know?

As always, www.streetmap.co.uk provides better results -- especially when provided with the
correct data.

ITYM SJ703873.

Good god! I must be dyslexic!!!

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Streetmap confirms :-

1. OS shows the road goes under the canal

2. That the road is the B5159 on both sides of the canal.

3. And is contiguous.

At least I'm not the only one!
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Tony W said:

Bloody spell checker.

Bah! I can't use that excuse.
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Gonzalez said:

Tap in grid reference SJ703837 and click <go>

ITIYM SJ703873?

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Burford Lane seems to end at the canal and Mill Lane carries on the other side. Now look at it on
the 1:50,000 survey. It looks like the road goes under the canal. But on the 1:250,000 survey it
appears to keep going. On multimap:

multimap.combrowse.cgiOpen ↗

The road seems to cross the canal at the 1:10,000 scale.

What happens? Does anyone know?

It goes through a traffic-light controlled tunnel underneath the canal.

Disclaimer: I haven't lived in Lymm (or indeed the North West) for ten years, but I very much doubt
that the road in question has changed. If no-one else is able to give a more up-to-date assurance
and you are still concerned, then try getting in touch with the Marina on Warrington Road
(<URL:http://www.lmbs.co.uk/> according to Google).

p.s. Best wishes with your ride. A brief report here afterwards would not go amiss!

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Mark Williams said:

It goes through a traffic-light controlled tunnel underneath the canal.

Fantastic! That's just the information I wanted. That's the route I'll take then.

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Disclaimer: I haven't lived in Lymm (or indeed the North West) for ten years, but I very much doubt
that the road in question has changed. If no-one else is able to give a more up-to-date assurance
and you are still concerned, then try getting in touch with the Marina on Warrington Road
(<URL:http://www.lmbs.co.uk/> according to Google).

p.s. Best wishes with your ride. A brief report here afterwards would not go amiss!

I intend to keep a daily diary. A brief report you won't get! A blow by blow account, perhaps.
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Tony W said:

As always, www.streetmap.co.uk provides better results -- especially when provided with the
correct data.

ITYM SJ703873.

Streetmap confirms :-

1. OS shows the road goes under the canal

2. That the road is the B5159 on both sides of the canal.

3. And is contiguous.

Thanks for that, Tony. People in this group are a mine of information.

The reason I've been using the OS maps is their detailed contour lines. It's always nice to know in
advance if you've got a hill to climb - I pop it into my route notes.

Thanks again to everyone for their help.
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"Gonzalez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thanks for that, Tony. People in this group are a mine of information.

The question is -- how much of it is bum information ;-o

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The reason I've been using the OS maps is their detailed contour lines. It's always nice to know
in advance if you've got a hill to climb - I pop it into my route notes.

OS are certainly the maps of choice for most things. For a long ride you could end up carrying a
small library of the things and have far too much detail. For many tours a much lower level of
detail is needed (i.e. a good 'motorists' map -- suplemented by notes or small photocopied section
of OS (I didn't say that -- Oh no -- as OS are well known for being agressive protectors of their
copyright.)

The reason I like Streetmap.co.uk over others is that it has a particularly clear version of the OS
map but also a more detailed level with streetnames etc. No direction finding but there are plenty
of option for that.

T

Tony W said:

The reason I like Streetmap.co.uk over others is that it has a particularly clear version of the
OS map but also a more detailed level with streetnames etc. No direction finding but there are
plenty of option for that.

I like Streetmap too. For anyone who hasn't come across this tip before (possibly old news here), if
you look at the coordinates in the address bar, you should see a "z=3". Change this to "z=4" and
you'll get a 5x5 grid (to the same scale) instead of the default 3x3 grid

Resize your screen to make it all visible and hit "Print Screen". With a bit of cutting and pasting
with a picture editor, you'll end up with a usefull bigger map.

HTH

Tim
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Tim Downie said:

I like Streetmap too.

ditto.

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For anyone who hasn't come across this tip before (possibly old news here), if you look at the
coordinates in the address bar, you should see a "z=3". Change this to "z=4" and you'll get a 5x5
grid (to the same scale) instead of the default 3x3 grid

Isn't this almost the same as clicking the Large Map button, except you only get the map at one zoom
level (i.e. level 4, the one which gets skipped when you use the + and - buttons)? If you're already
zoomed in to, say, level 2, and hit the large map button, you get more of the map at the zoom level
you wanted.

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I intend to keep a daily diary. A brief report you won't get! A blow by blow account, perhaps.

I'm starting my end2end tomorrow and will be updating my blog whenever I find net access:
andy-cooke.co.ukblogOpen ↗

I'm following one of the CTC routes so I've not had to do much actual route planning myself, but
I'll be using pages cut out from the Philip's Navigator road atlas (ISBN: 0-540-07817-4, 1.5
miles/inch, 20quid) which has served me well on a few trial rides and seems to have every small
country road you could hope for marked. No contours, but there are little black arrows to scare me!

cheers, Andy

Tony W said:

OS are certainly the maps of choice for most things. For a long ride you could end up carrying a
small library of the things and have far too much detail. For many tours a much lower level of
detail is needed (i.e. a good 'motorists' map -- suplemented by notes or small photocopied section
of OS (I didn't say that -- Oh no -- as OS are well known for being agressive protectors of their
copyright.)

I've bought five 1:250,000 OS "Route Planning" Maps for the journey: South West England, Wales,
Northern England, Southern Scotland and Northern Scotland, and I've had them *Aqua 3* laminated,
with the covers and index removed.

I'm currently tracing the entire route online using the OS website and
1:25,000 maps, and making myself notes of campsites, pubs etc, awkward junctions, and selected grid
references. The information I'm putting onto a spreadsheet, and will print it out at #6 font size.

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The reason I like Streetmap.co.uk over others is that it has a particularly clear version of the OS
map but also a more detailed level with streetnames etc. No direction finding but there are plenty
of option for that.

The detail on the 1:25,000 maps is sufficient most of the time, but street names are a particularly
useful feature not usually available from them.

Also, tracing a 1000 mile route at 1:25,000 is hard enough - in fact much of the time I'm using
1:50,000 survey information or even
2:250,000 survey. To use 1:10,000 would take far too long.
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Andy said:

Quoted message said:

I intend to keep a daily diary. A brief report you won't get! A blow by blow account, perhaps.

I'm starting my end2end tomorrow and will be updating my blog whenever I find net access:
andy-cooke.co.ukblogOpen ↗

I'm following one of the CTC routes so I've not had to do much actual route planning myself, but
I'll be using pages cut out from the Philip's Navigator road atlas (ISBN: 0-540-07817-4, 1.5
miles/inch, 20quid) which has served me well on a few trial rides and seems to have every small
country road you could hope for marked. No contours, but there are little black arrows to scare me!

Good luck with the ride!

I'm a fat [censored] so I'm taking 17 days (+ 2 travelling to and from) over the ride, still, I am
planning to camp almost every night.
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It goes through a traffic-light controlled tunnel underneath the canal.

Indeed it does - I came this way a couple of weeks ago.

Ric