No battery is needed. No friction on any parts of the bicycle. Based on
a newly invented generator, this light system works regardless the
bicycle's speed and weather conditions (not like normal dynamos!).
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Quoted message said:
No battery is needed. No friction on any parts of the bicycle. Based on
a newly invented generator, this light system works regardless the
bicycle's speed and weather conditions (not like normal dynamos!)."No Batteries - Ever! No Friction! No Resistance!"
No First Law of Thermodynamics!
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Tony"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon -
Tony Raven said:
Quoted message said:
No battery is needed. No friction on any parts of the bicycle. Based on
a newly invented generator, this light system works regardless the
bicycle's speed and weather conditions (not like normal dynamos!)."No Batteries - Ever! No Friction! No Resistance!"
No First Law of Thermodynamics!
Can I tell you about this perpetual motion machine I've invented?
R.
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Richard said:
Tony Raven said:
Quoted message said:
No battery is needed. No friction on any parts of the bicycle.
Based on a newly invented generator, this light system works
regardless the bicycle's speed and weather conditions (not like
normal dynamos!). http://www.freelights.co.uk"No Batteries - Ever! No Friction! No Resistance!"
No First Law of Thermodynamics!
Can I tell you about this perpetual motion machine I've invented?
I'll take 3 of the DIY kits.
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Simonb said:
Richard said:
Tony Raven said:
[email hidden] wrote:
> No battery is needed. No friction on any parts of the bicycle.
> Based on a newly invented generator, this light system works
> regardless the bicycle's speed and weather conditions (not like
> normal dynamos!). http://www.freelights.co.uk
>"No Batteries - Ever! No Friction! No Resistance!"
No First Law of Thermodynamics!
Can I tell you about this perpetual motion machine I've invented?
I'll take 3 of the DIY kits.
Me too, and race you for that nice Mr Randi's 1,000, 000 US dollars. -
Tony Raven said:
No First Law of Thermodynamics!
It's been repealed!
They do have 'Patents Panding' on the device....
Pete.
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PeteC said:
Tony Raven said:
No First Law of Thermodynamics!
It's been repealed!
They do have 'Patents Panding' on the device....
They've repealed the Patent Office rule on not being able to patent
perpetual motion as well then....--
Tony"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon -
Quoted message said:
No battery is needed. No friction on any parts of the bicycle. Based on
a newly invented generator, this light system works regardless the
bicycle's speed and weather conditions (not like normal dynamos!).Is this essentially still the same system as the one we discussed a
couple of years ago? See <http://tinyurl.co.uk/ocgh>. Full url =
<http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_frm/thread/212fe4f123254cb1>.--
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Tony Raven said:
Quoted message said:
No battery is needed. No friction on any parts of the bicycle. Based on
a newly invented generator, this light system works regardless the
bicycle's speed and weather conditions (not like normal dynamos!)."No Batteries - Ever! No Friction! No Resistance!"
No First Law of Thermodynamics!
Time they repealed that anyway.
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PeteC said:
Tony Raven said:
No First Law of Thermodynamics!
It's been repealed!
Damn, you got their first!
Quoted message said:
They do have 'Patents Panding' on the device....
Well, they'd need to have, wouldn't they?
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Tony Raven said:
Quoted message said:
No battery is needed. No friction on any parts of the bicycle. Based on
a newly invented generator, this light system works regardless the
bicycle's speed and weather conditions (not like normal dynamos!)."No Batteries - Ever! No Friction! No Resistance!"
No First Law of Thermodynamics!
If you actually read the site before making stupid comments, you'll see that
what it *actually* says is:|No drag can be detected in this device; it is not a traditional dynamo.
|With this innovative, electrical generating system you will not feel any
|extra weight when you are cycling.It *is* a bit of a con, though.
All it is is some flashing LED lights and a small dynamo with a capacitor.
Because a pair of the lights supplied will only use a tiny amount of power,
you'll never notice the resistance of the dynamo.Just smoke and mirrors, really.
It does exactly what it says on the can, but - so what?
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(Steven) said:
Tony Raven said:
Quoted message said:
No battery is needed. No friction on any parts of the bicycle. Based on
a newly invented generator, this light system works regardless the
bicycle's speed and weather conditions (not like normal dynamos!)."No Batteries - Ever! No Friction! No Resistance!"
No First Law of Thermodynamics!
Time they repealed that anyway.
Guilty of not reading the ad before adding to facetious comments.
Mea culpa :-(
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news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 17:22:26 +0100, Tony Raven <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
No battery is needed. . Based on
a newly invented generator, this light system works regardless the
bicycle's speed and weather conditions (not like normal dynamos!)."No Batteries - Ever! No Friction! No Resistance!"
No First Law of Thermodynamics!
If you actually read the site before making stupid comments, you'll see
that
what it *actually* says is:If you read the text you deliberately cut out of your quote, you'll see what
the OP *actually* said was "No friction on any parts of the bicycle".Quoted message said:
|No drag can be detected in this device; it is not a traditional dynamo.
|With this innovative, electrical generating system you will not feel any
|extra weight when you are cycling.Well obviously, drag *can* be detected because if there wasnt drag, it
wouldnt work. You just need an appropriate detector.--
Tumbleweedemail replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com -
Tumbleweed said:
Well obviously, drag *can* be detected because if there wasnt drag, it
wouldnt work. You just need an appropriate detector.You can't confuse him with mere facts: his mind is made up!
Pete.
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Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 09:32:14 +0100, "Tumbleweed" <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
"Steven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 17:22:26 +0100, Tony Raven <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
[email hidden] wrote:
> No battery is needed. . Based on
> a newly invented generator, this light system works regardless the
> bicycle's speed and weather conditions (not like normal dynamos!).
>
> http://www.freelights.co.uk
>"No Batteries - Ever! No Friction! No Resistance!"
No First Law of Thermodynamics!
If you actually read the site before making stupid comments, you'll see
that
what it *actually* says is:If you read the text you deliberately cut out of your quote, you'll see what
the OP *actually* said was "No friction on any parts of the bicycle".If you'd bother to actually *understand* what was going on before going off half
[censored], you'd realise that I wasn't talking to the OP, I was commenting on Tony
Raven who added the 'no resistance', without noting that the ad actually said
*can be detected*.The part I "deliberately" left out was not relevant to what I was saying, so it
was snipped. That was why I "deliberately" left it out. Simple really.Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
|No drag can be detected in this device; it is not a traditional dynamo.
|With this innovative, electrical generating system you will not feel any
|extra weight when you are cycling.Well obviously, drag *can* be detected because if there wasnt drag, it
wouldnt work. You just need an appropriate detector.If you want to be absurdly pedantic, yes, with sufficiently accurate
instrumentation, you would obviously be able to detect some resistance.But it's ridiculous to claim that the advert is wrong on that score because
anyone with a ha'pth of sense would know that it meant "detected by the cyclist
as an increase in effort". -
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 09:43:39 +0100, Peter Clinch <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
Tumbleweed said:
Well obviously, drag *can* be detected because if there wasnt drag, it
wouldnt work. You just need an appropriate detector.You can't confuse him with mere facts: his mind is made up!
Ah, my little stalker's arrived.
Hiya PeeWee!
No problems with detectability.
It's just stupidly pedantic.
Rather like someone saying that the can't see the sea from their house and
someone else retorting that they could if they got a high enough ladder and a
telescope.Probably true, but an utterly pointless piece of pedantry.
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 08:57:25 GMT, [email hidden] (Steven)
Quoted message said:
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 09:43:39 +0100, Peter Clinch <[email hidden]>
wrote:Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
You can't confuse him with mere facts: his mind is made up!Ah, my little stalker's arrived.
Hiya PeeWee!
PeeWee is Peter's sock puppet? Well, I'll be blowed.
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Al C-F said:
PeeWee is Peter's sock puppet? Well, I'll be blowed.
If I am then that's news to me... My immediate reaction on seeing that
quoted message text was "what is Steven on about now?", but bearing in
mind who it is then "inane ranting" would probably cover the bases
pretty well...Pete.
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Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ -
Peter Clinch said:
Al C-F wrote:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
PeeWee is Peter's sock puppet? Well, I'll be blowed.
Quoted message said:
If I am then that's news to me... My immediate reaction on seeing that
quoted message text was "what is Steven on about now?", but bearing in
mind who it is then "inane ranting" would probably cover the bases
pretty well...Getting a second personality is a good excuse for a whole load of new gear
:-)Roos
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Roos Eisma said:
Getting a second personality is a good excuse for a whole load of new gear
:-)Looks like I should book a dose of quadrophenia over with the Carse View
folk, in that case...Pete.
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Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
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