Editor of BikeBiz is SMIDSY'd

wafflycat said:

But thankfully, he's still in the land of the living.

http://www.bikebiz.com/daily-news/article.php?id=5866

Cheers, helen s

A TT sounds quite nice to be hit by, in relative terms. It's all
rounded, quite low, and you can bugger up some expensive Teutonic
paintwork :-)

Quoted message said:

But thankfully, he's still in the land of the living.

http://www.bikebiz.com/daily-news/article.php?id=5866

B'ah, he'd just read the "anyone else been squirted" thread and decided to
go one better. Copycat.

<CYNIC>It'll be interesting to see if the driver still admits
culpability after a night's sleep.</CYNIC>

--
Peter Headland

wafflycat said:

But thankfully, he's still in the land of the living.
http://www.bikebiz.com/daily-news/article.php?id=5866
Cheers, helen s

Does anyone else think there's been a decline in driving standards
around cyclists in the last few weeks?

It still could be coincidence, but it could also be that drivers are
assuming traffic enforcement has been reduced to a minimum to release
officers for anti-terrorism.

There's no point preventing a terrorist attack if as a result deaths
and injuries on the road go up by even a tiny percentage.

My evidence to support this is purely anecdotal, but a colleague has
been knocked off for the first time in 100,000+ miles, a friend has
been hit by stuff falling off an overloaded lorry, and I have had two
near-misses and one just hit - about the same tally as I'd expect over
a couple of years.

Comments?

Colin McKenzie

Colin McKenzie said:

Does anyone else think there's been a decline in driving standards
around cyclists in the last few weeks?

My statistical sample size of me has found the opposite in the last few
weeks, which I posit as being due to the lack of school run. :-)

R.

Colin McKenzie said:

Does anyone else think there's been a decline in driving standards
around cyclists in the last few weeks?

My anecdotal sample (of me) agrees - but only because I'm doing more
miles at the moment than normal and so am exposed to more driving.

I would suggest also that there are currently fewer cars on the road
(what with the school run and holidays and such) and when the roads are
less full, the average speeds rise and this is always more problematic.

chris harrison said:

Colin McKenzie said:

Does anyone else think there's been a decline in driving standards
around cyclists in the last few weeks?

My anecdotal sample (of me) agrees - but only because I'm doing more
miles at the moment than normal and so am exposed to more driving.

I would suggest also that there are currently fewer cars on the road
(what with the school run and holidays and such) and when the roads are
less full, the average speeds rise and this is always more problematic.

School went back today here and the difference in traffic was
noticeable.. Made no difference to my very consistent journey time
though.

...d

wafflycat said:

But thankfully, he's still in the land of the living.

http://www.bikebiz.com/daily-news/article.php?id=5866

Interesting Freudian spelling slip in the article:

"...an Audi TT joined the *duel* carriageway from a minor road, did not
brake at the stop-line and wiped me out."

It does seem that way at times although the contest is not an equal
one.

--
Dave...

Colin McKenzie said:

Does anyone else think there's been a decline in driving standards
around cyclists in the last few weeks?

I've recently noticed HUGE numbers of duff brake lights. I don't think the
police enforce this any more. at least, that's the perception.

Simon Bennett said:

Colin McKenzie said:

Does anyone else think there's been a decline in driving standards
around cyclists in the last few weeks?

I've recently noticed HUGE numbers of duff brake lights. I don't think the
police enforce this any more. at least, that's the perception.

What would be interesting would be for the police to issue a 'defect
note' for a vehicle which has an obvious but not immediately dangerous
defect (ie defective brake light, tinted windows, number plate fonts
etc.) that would need to be validated by an approved MOT testing
station that the defect had been rectified within a certain time period
(two weeks?) or a fine would be issued.

They had such a thing in Norway which was a 'provisional pass' for the
MOT where minor defects were identified. You could drive away legally
but had to fix them within a month.

...d

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:25:48 +0100 someone who may be Colin McKenzie
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

Does anyone else think there's been a decline in driving standards
around cyclists in the last few weeks?

It still could be coincidence, but it could also be that drivers are
assuming traffic enforcement has been reduced to a minimum to release
officers for anti-terrorism.

I have noticed more illegal and/or bad parking. However, one such
driver was being approached by a traffic warden yesterday. The lazy
bum couldn't be bothered to park in the empty parking bays, but
instead had stopped in the main road, turned on his "I can park
where I like" lights and left his lorry.

--
David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E
I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

Zog The Undeniable said:

wafflycat said:

But thankfully, he's still in the land of the living.

http://www.bikebiz.com/daily-news/article.php?id=5866

Cheers, helen s

A TT sounds quite nice to be hit by, in relative terms. It's all
rounded, quite low, and you can bugger up some expensive Teutonic
paintwork :-)

Actually, it has the worst EuroNCAP pedestrian safety rating.

from
http://www.euroncap.com/content/safety_ratings/details.php?id1=8&id2=148

Quoted message said:

Protection offered to pedestrians was abysmal: the car scored
no points and gained no stars. Euro NCAP says Audi needs to
improve performance in this important area.

Still, not nice at all.
--
Ambrose

chris harrison said:

Colin McKenzie said:

Does anyone else think there's been a decline in driving standards
around cyclists in the last few weeks?

My anecdotal sample (of me) agrees - but only because I'm doing more
miles at the moment than normal and so am exposed to more driving.

I'd agree too - nothing major, just people passing a bit closer,
pulling out a bit more aggressively than I'm used to.

Quoted message said:

I would suggest also that there are currently fewer cars on the road
(what with the school run and holidays and such) and when the roads are
less full, the average speeds rise and this is always more problematic.

I normally find the school holidays a pleasure for commuting - normally
the reduced traffic means folk are more relaxed

John

David Martin said:

What would be interesting would be for the police to issue a 'defect
note' for a vehicle which has an obvious but not immediately dangerous
defect (ie defective brake light, tinted windows, number plate fonts
etc.) that would need to be validated by an approved MOT testing
station that the defect had been rectified within a certain time period
(two weeks?) or a fine would be issued.

I'm pretty sure they can do this already

Yep, the City Police take on it is:
http://www.cityoflondon.police.uk/community/road.html#03

John

Simon Bennett said:

I've recently noticed HUGE numbers of duff brake lights. I don't
think the police enforce this any more. at least, that's the
perception.

Traffic patrols replaced by speed cameras???????

pk

p.k. said:

Simon Bennett said:

I've recently noticed HUGE numbers of duff brake lights. I don't
think the police enforce this any more. at least, that's the
perception.

Traffic patrols replaced by speed cameras???????

I don't know.

p.k. said:

Simon Bennett said:

I've recently noticed HUGE numbers of duff brake lights. I don't
think the police enforce this any more. at least, that's the
perception.

Traffic patrols replaced by speed cameras???????

Why would replacing traffic patrols by speed cameras cause brake lights
to break?

Oh, wait, the emergency slow-downs just before the speed cameras. My
mistake.

R.

I submit that on or about 16 Aug 2005 02:19:26 -0700, the person known
to the court as "David Martin" <[email hidden]> made a
statement (<[email hidden]> in
Your Honour's bundle) to the following effect:

Quoted message said:

What would be interesting would be for the police to issue a 'defect
note' for a vehicle which has an obvious but not immediately dangerous
defect (ie defective brake light, tinted windows, number plate fonts
etc.) that would need to be validated by an approved MOT testing
station that the defect had been rectified within a certain time period
(two weeks?) or a fine would be issued.

Too late, they've already invented that wheel :-)

Guy
--
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

"To every complex problem there is a solution which is
simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

I submit that on or about Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:32:56 +0000 (UTC), the
person known to the court as "p.k." <[email hidden]> made
a statement (<[email hidden]> in
Your Honour's bundle) to the following effect:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've recently noticed HUGE numbers of duff brake lights. I don't
think the police enforce this any more. at least, that's the
perception.

Quoted message said:

Traffic patrols replaced by speed cameras???????

No, removal of all traffic enforcement targets from the core duties of
police forces. As per the PACTS factsheet, pointed out last time that
particular red herring was trailed :-)

Guy
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"To every complex problem there is a solution which is
simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken