I google, I still google, but cannot find any clues if there are recognizable differences between this group subsequent releases and if it is possible to identify the Delta brakes version. I have found Campa timeline description, couple of articles about vintage groups, but they are not clear about it.
Could anyone familiar with Campy groups take a look at these pictures below and try to identify the year of this group and, if possible, the Delta brakes version? Is it very early or the last released model?
This looks like the CdA group. One difference between the C-Record Deltas and the CdA version is the spring in the back. Your pictures don't show the back of the brakes, but I recall that the C-Rec version had the spring enclosed; while the CdA version was exposed.
Looking at the hubs, the polish on the CdA version is very nice. Looks almost like the C-Rec.The difference appear to be the end caps. On the C-Rec, its enclosed in a very nice silver casing that requires a special tool to remove.
The only other difference is the rear der. The CdA has that little bar on it. Trick looking, but don't know if it does anything.
This looks like the CdA group. One difference between the C-Record Deltas and the CdA version is the spring in the back. Your pictures don't show the back of the brakes, but I recall that the C-Rec version had the spring enclosed; while the CdA version was exposed.
Looking at the hubs, the polish on the CdA version is very nice. Looks almost like the C-Rec.The difference appear to be the end caps. On the C-Rec, its enclosed in a very nice silver casing that requires a special tool to remove.
The only other difference is the rear der. The CdA has that little bar on it. Trick looking, but don't know if it does anything.
Thanks bfd, greatly appreciated. Don't you know whether this is one of the latter delta brake releases or not? I've read that early Deltas had some problems with corrosion or something like that..
I google, I still google, but cannot find any clues if there are recognizable differences between this group subsequent releases and if it is possible to identify the Delta brakes version. I have found Campa timeline description, couple of articles about vintage groups, but they are not clear about it.
Could anyone familiar with Campy groups take a look at these pictures below and try to identify the year of this group and, if possible, the Delta brakes version? Is it very early or the last released model?
Definately CDA group with brakes. You can see the spring shadow in the second pic. Came out 1984-5, around until 1989-1990. Was Campag's attempt at index shifting to 'compete' with shimano of the time. Along with Athena and a-b Chorus. Didn't work well at all in index mode( the shifters are second gen Syncro 2). Campagnolo kept C-Record as a friction shifting group, along with big barrell 8s friction shifters, in case the world didn't take to click shifting...we know the answer to that one.
CDA rear der with big barrell friction shifters(that rear der takes a LOT of cable pull to move)actually works quite well on many freewheels. It is a piece of art with the rod actuators.
Definately CDA group with brakes. You can see the spring shadow in the second pic. Came out 1984-5, around until 1989-1990. Was Campag's attempt at index shifting to 'compete' with shimano of the time. Along with Athena and a-b Chorus. Didn't work well at all in index mode( the shifters are second gen Syncro 2). Campagnolo kept C-Record as a friction shifting group, along with big barrell 8s friction shifters, in case the world didn't take to click shifting...we know the answer to that one.
CDA rear der with big barrell friction shifters(that rear der takes a LOT of cable pull to move)actually works quite well on many freewheels. It is a piece of art with the rod actuators.
Thank you. You are like Campy Encyclopedia 🙂 I really appreciate your knowledge and your willingness to share it.
Definately CDA group with brakes. You can see the spring shadow in the second pic. Came out 1984-5, around until 1989-1990. Was Campag's attempt at index shifting to 'compete' with shimano of the time. Along with Athena and a-b Chorus. Didn't work well at all in index mode( the shifters are second gen Syncro 2). Campagnolo kept C-Record as a friction shifting group, along with big barrell 8s friction shifters, in case the world didn't take to click shifting...we know the answer to that one.
CDA rear der with big barrell friction shifters(that rear der takes a LOT of cable pull to move)actually works quite well on many freewheels. It is a piece of art with the rod actuators.
Thank you. You are like Campy Encyclopedia 🙂 I really appreciate your knowledge and your willingness to share it.
CDA rear der with big barrell friction shifters(that rear der takes a LOT of cable pull to move)actually works quite well on many freewheels. It is a piece of art with the rod actuators.
What's a "barrell"?
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CDA rear der with big barrell friction shifters(that rear der takes a LOT of cable pull to move)actually works quite well on many freewheels. It is a piece of art with the rod actuators.
What's a "barrell"?
The body of the right down tube shifter that wraps the cable was larger than the other dt shifters for the requirement of moving the rear der all the way to 8s and also because these rear ders moved less per mm of cable pull, as all slant parallelogram rear ders do.
Interesting. What's the spring clip on the hubs for?
Cheers, Eric
In the center of the hubs? Oil/grease hole for adding grease between overhauls. Also on some track hubs to add oil for less 'drag' during appropriate events.