Good GAWD but I hate windy days

the black rose said:

Hi guys, long time no see.

My DH and I grabbed our bikes this morning

DH = ... Dumb Husband? (Isn't that redundant?)

Slow night.

Sorni

"the black rose" wrote: (clip) Don't ask me why you can turn 90 degrees and
a tailwind turns into a headwind. (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It has to do with vectors. Almost any wind that is not a tailwind will
combine with your speed to increase your drag. It's not fair.

I can understand this, because I'm like Joe Bltsplk in Li'l Abner, who
always had his own little raincloud over his head-----even indoors. I
always have a headwind, no matter which direction I go-----it will shift
just the second it sees I'm heading back the other way. It also does
this when I'm running or paddling a Kayak. It's a burden, but it does
give me a better workout. Imagine if this personal curse were reversed
during races and gave me and only me, a perpetual tailwind.

Steve McDonald

Bill Sornson said:

the black rose said:

Hi guys, long time no see.

My DH and I grabbed our bikes this morning

DH = ... Dumb Husband? (Isn't that redundant?)

*sigh*

DH = Dear Husband.

*bonks Sorni*

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the black rose said:

Bill Sornson said:

the black rose said:

Hi guys, long time no see.

My DH and I grabbed our bikes this morning

DH = ... Dumb Husband? (Isn't that redundant?)

*sigh*

DH = Dear Husband.

*bonks Sorni*

Ah. Well that's better than Damned Husband, too!

Bonked Bill

the black rose said:

I liked the heat wave better. :-P

Man, do I understand where you're coming from. When I first got back
into cycling I was riding downtown to traffic court (haha, I know). It
was a fairly windy day, but once I got among all the tall buildings, the
wind really started to swirl and pick up. On a couple occasions the
wind either blew me further into my lane (bad news if a car was trying
to pass) or got *really* close to blowing me into the curb (just plain bad).

the only good wind is a tail wind.
\\paul
--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
..:change the words numbers
if you want to reply to me:.

the black rose said:

Don't ask me why you can turn 90 degrees and a tailwind turns into a
headwind.

I feel your pain, Rose. Door County, WI is a narrow peninsula that juts
out into Lake Michigan. It's a great place to ride once you get out
into the country *except* for reasons I don't really understand, in the
morning and early afternoon the wind always seems to be coming from the
north. In the early afternoon it reverses itself and blows from the
south. That would be okay if my LAW (Attn: Sorni. That's an acronym for
"Lovely, Adorable Wife".) ever wanted to stay on the *north* end of the
peninsula but all of her favorite inns are on the southern end.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Steve McDonald said:

I can understand this, because I'm like Joe Bltsplk in Li'l Abner, who
always had his own little raincloud over his head-----even indoors. I
always have a headwind, no matter which direction I go-----it will shift
just the second it sees I'm heading back the other way. It also does
this when I'm running or paddling a Kayak. It's a burden, but it does
give me a better workout. Imagine if this personal curse were reversed
during races and gave me and only me, a perpetual tailwind.

Steve McDonald

You have that curse too? I notice that the wind can be nice and calm-
until i set out on my bike and then suddenly, i'm in a wind tunnel!

Yesterday it wasn't too bad- the wind was coming from the south and so
it was a crosswind, only when I was near the open water. But it
increased on my way home and switched to the Southeast and then east, so
it was in my face. And it was also humid and warm. It got even more
windy after I got home, though and then rained heavily overnight.

Of course, prevailing winds are form the West and usually, around here,
we tend to go westward on our rides- either that or it's in your face on
the way home. And in the spring- don't ask!

Bob said:

the black rose said:

Don't ask me why you can turn 90 degrees and a tailwind turns into a
headwind.

I feel your pain, Rose. Door County, WI is a narrow peninsula that juts
out into Lake Michigan. It's a great place to ride once you get out
into the country *except* for reasons I don't really understand, in the
morning and early afternoon the wind always seems to be coming from the
north. In the early afternoon it reverses itself and blows from the
south.

Are the great lakes large enough to have the sea/land breeze wind
patterns? That's what this sounds like.

\\paul
--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
..:change the words numbers
if you want to reply to me:.

Ah yes, that famous cyclists' wind known as The Againsterly ;-) Now if you'd
have been on a recumbent, you'd not have had as much of a struggle in a
headwind. It's one of the first things I noticed when I got a 'bent -
headwind is nowhere near as vicious as when on the upright. I think the
adverse effect of a head/crosswind is often forgotten. Where I live we don't
have huge hills, but we have many exposed roads and strong winds. Such winds
can be extremely draining of the strength, as, unlike a hill, which you
*know* has a top where from that point it's going to get easier, with a
wind, it can be unremitting and gusty hour... after hour... all day...

Cheers, helen s

wafflycat said:

Ah yes, that famous cyclists' wind known as The Againsterly ;-) Now if
you'd have been on a recumbent, you'd not have had as much of a struggle
in a headwind. It's one of the first things I noticed when I got a 'bent
- headwind is nowhere near as vicious as when on the upright. I think
the adverse effect of a head/crosswind is often forgotten. Where I live
we don't have huge hills, but we have many exposed roads and strong
winds. Such winds can be extremely draining of the strength, as, unlike
a hill, which you *know* has a top where from that point it's going to
get easier, with a wind, it can be unremitting and gusty hour... after
hour... all day...

Cheers, helen s

*snorfle* "Againsterly", hehe, that's good.

I feel a bit odd today having complained about wind, what with Hurricane
Katrina blowing ashore and all. Up here in upstate NY, all we're going
to see of Katrina is a blustery day and some rain.

Hoping for the safety of the folks in the way of the 'cane.

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the black rose
Research Associate in the Field of Child Development and Human
Relations
http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts
2005 BOMs: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/blackrosequilts/my_photos

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Paul Hobson said:

Bob said:

the black rose said:

Don't ask me why you can turn 90 degrees and a tailwind turns into a
headwind.

I feel your pain, Rose. Door County, WI is a narrow peninsula that juts
out into Lake Michigan. It's a great place to ride once you get out
into the country *except* for reasons I don't really understand, in the
morning and early afternoon the wind always seems to be coming from the
north. In the early afternoon it reverses itself and blows from the
south.

Are the great lakes large enough to have the sea/land breeze wind
patterns? That's what this sounds like.

Yes. The real problem with riding in Door County
is all the FIBs there.

Scott

wafflycat said:

Ah yes, that famous cyclists' wind known as The Againsterly ;-) Now if
you'd have been on a recumbent, you'd not have had as much of a struggle
in a headwind. It's one of the first things I noticed when I got a 'bent
- headwind is nowhere near as vicious as when on the upright. I think
the adverse effect of a head/crosswind is often forgotten. Where I live
we don't have huge hills, but we have many exposed roads and strong
winds. Such winds can be extremely draining of the strength, as, unlike
a hill, which you *know* has a top where from that point it's going to
get easier, with a wind, it can be unremitting and gusty hour... after
hour... all day...

Wind structure in the boundary layer is exponential with
height. So of course if you're sitting on the ground,
invisible to all cars around you except the one passing
you, you will feel lighter winds than if you are on a
*proper* bike 🙂, sitting upright in a higher saddle.

Scott

Paul Hobson said:

Bob said:

the black rose said:

Don't ask me why you can turn 90 degrees and a tailwind turns into a
headwind.

I feel your pain, Rose. Door County, WI is a narrow peninsula that juts
out into Lake Michigan. It's a great place to ride once you get out
into the country *except* for reasons I don't really understand, in the
morning and early afternoon the wind always seems to be coming from the
north. In the early afternoon it reverses itself and blows from the
south.

Are the great lakes large enough to have the sea/land breeze wind
patterns? That's what this sounds like.

\\paul
--
Paul M. Hobson

Lake Michigan by itself is large enough to generate its own weather
system. It's easy to forget just how big the Great Lakes are until
stopping to consider things like Chicago having a bona fide
international seaport or how the Lakes hold one fifth of all of the
world's freshwater. I know the wind pattern I mentioned is caused by
the lake. Not being a meteorologist, I can't explain exactly how
though.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Paul Hobson said:

Bob said:

the black rose said:

Don't ask me why you can turn 90 degrees and a tailwind turns into a
headwind.

I feel your pain, Rose. Door County, WI is a narrow peninsula that juts
out into Lake Michigan. It's a great place to ride once you get out
into the country *except* for reasons I don't really understand, in the
morning and early afternoon the wind always seems to be coming from the
north. In the early afternoon it reverses itself and blows from the
south.

Are the great lakes large enough to have the sea/land breeze wind
patterns? That's what this sounds like.

\\paul
--
Paul M. Hobson

Lake Michigan by itself is large enough to generate its own weather
system. It's easy to forget just how big the Great Lakes are until
stopping to consider things like Chicago being a bona fide
international seaport or how the Lakes hold one fifth of all of the
world's freshwater. I know the wind pattern I mentioned is caused by
the lake. Not being a meteorologist, I can't explain exactly how
though.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Scott said:

Yes. The real problem with riding in Door County
is all the FIBs there.

Wisconsin: Illinois's State Park. 😉

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