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  1. Max Hauser said:


    "Mark Thorson" in news:[email hidden]:
    | ...
    | Megadoses of C raise the risk of kidney stones.
    | I've already had one stone, which is enough.

    That's a good point (for instance, urinary oxalate is a major metabolic
    byproduct of the vitamin C not excreted directly, according to "Vitamin C"
    chapter in Goodman and Gilman, the standard medical pharmo text).

    J Nutr. 2005 Jul;135(7):1673-7.
    Ascorbate increases human oxaluria and kidney stone risk.
    Massey LK, Liebman M, Kynast-Gales SA.
    Department of Food Science and Human Nutrition,
    Washington State University, Spokane,WA.

    Currently, the recommended upper limit for
    ascorbic acid (AA) intake is 2000 mg/d. However,
    because AA is endogenously converted to oxalate
    and appears to increase the absorption of
    dietary oxalate, supplementation may increase
    the risk of kidney stones. The effect of AA
    supplementation on urinary oxalate was studied
    in a randomized, crossover, controlled design in
    which subjects consumed a controlled diet in a
    university metabolic unit. Stoneformers (n = 29;
    SF) and age- and gender-matched non-stoneformers
    (n = 19; NSF) consumed 1000 mg AA
    twice each day with each morning and evening
    meal for 6 d (treatment A), and no AA for 6 d
    (treatment N) in random order. After 5 d of
    adaptation to a low-oxalate diet, participants lived
    for 24 h in a metabolic unit, during which they
    were given 136 mg oxalate, including 18 mg
    (13)C(2) oxalic acid, 2 h before breakfast;
    they then consumed a controlled very low-oxalate
    diet for 24 h. Of the 48 participants, 19
    (12 stoneformers, 7 non-stoneformers) were identified
    as responders, defined by an increase in 24-h
    total oxalate excretion > 10% after treatment A
    compared with N. Responders had a greater 24-h
    Tiselius Risk Index (TRI) with AA
    supplementation (1.10 +/- 0.66 treatment A vs.
    0.76 +/- 0.42 treatment N) because of a 31%
    increase in the percentage of oxalate absorption
    (10.5 +/- 3.2% treatment A vs. 8.0 +/- 2.4%
    treatment N) and a 39% increase in endogenous
    oxalate synthesis with treatment A than during
    treatment N (544 +/- 131 A vs. 391 +/- 71 umol/d N).
    The 1000 mg AA twice each day
    increased urinary oxalate and TRI for calcium
    oxalate kidney stones in 40% of participants,
    both stoneformers and non-stoneformers.

  2. "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "jake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone have an efficient technique for chopping large amounts of
    parsley? Lately I've been cooking with it a lot and have found that I
    get the best results when it's chopped almost to the consistency of a
    fine, moist grain. This, however takes a lot of time. I tried using
    my small electric chopper, but cleaning that takes almost as long as
    chopping the parsley by hand. Any thoughs?

    Also, is there a difference (other than texture) between the leaves of
    parsley and the stems? How about for Italian parsley?

    I have a rocking knife on my wish list for this purpose, but I've never
    actually used one.

    If you mean a mezzaluna I never did get the hang of using mine🙁

    Ophelia


    Well, if getting the hang of it is anything similar to what I saw the other
    day on America's Test Kitchen, I'd never do it. He was doing some green
    parsley; he was actually slamming/pounding/raising up/slamming down the mezz
    and giving it a split second rock when it came down. It looked like he was
    pulverizing the herbs; and must've had arms of steel. I'm still laughing at
    the action.
    Dee Dee

  3. "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Well, yes, sorry... For myself, I would not stop eating meat unless
    it was
    ordered for a life-threatening situation. I don't care that much for
    fish.

    I won't bother you again.

    You have enough friends here not to bother yourself at all darling🙂)

    O

  4. "Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "jake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    > Does anyone have an efficient technique for chopping large amounts
    > of
    > parsley? Lately I've been cooking with it a lot and have found
    > that I
    > get the best results when it's chopped almost to the consistency of
    > a
    > fine, moist grain. This, however takes a lot of time. I tried
    > using
    > my small electric chopper, but cleaning that takes almost as long
    > as
    > chopping the parsley by hand. Any thoughs?
    >
    > Also, is there a difference (other than texture) between the leaves
    > of
    > parsley and the stems? How about for Italian parsley?
    >

    I have a rocking knife on my wish list for this purpose, but I've
    never actually used one.

    If you mean a mezzaluna I never did get the hang of using mine🙁

    Ophelia


    Well, if getting the hang of it is anything similar to what I saw the
    other day on America's Test Kitchen, I'd never do it. He was doing
    some green parsley; he was actually slamming/pounding/raising
    up/slamming down the mezz and giving it a split second rock when it
    came down. It looked like he was pulverizing the herbs; and must've
    had arms of steel. I'm still laughing at the action.

    LOL well I can't do it🙂

  5. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    ~patches~ said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    I'm not Jill, but I also dry my own and it actually gets darker...
    And I use no preservatives.

    I dry or freeze the parsley using no preservatives. I find the frozen
    parsley keeps a greener appearance than and a closer to fresh taste the
    dried.

    Do you freeze it in ice cubes?
    I'd read that hint somewhere.
    To freeze it in actual ice cubes
    to keep it fresher?

    No, I use the vacuum sealer and feeze it in those bags. I have used the
    ice cubes for basil but not parsley. It works well.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Drying my own is less expensive and fresher! Who knows how old some of
    that stuff on the shelf is? ;-)

    I know that my home dried herbs are better than anything I can buy.

    Isn't that the truth!

    Indeed.....

  6. Dee Randall said:


    "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "jake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    > Does anyone have an efficient technique for chopping large amounts of
    > parsley? Lately I've been cooking with it a lot and have found that I
    > get the best results when it's chopped almost to the consistency of a
    > fine, moist grain. This, however takes a lot of time. I tried using
    > my small electric chopper, but cleaning that takes almost as long as
    > chopping the parsley by hand. Any thoughs?
    >
    > Also, is there a difference (other than texture) between the leaves of
    > parsley and the stems? How about for Italian parsley?
    >

    I have a rocking knife on my wish list for this purpose, but I've never
    actually used one.

    If you mean a mezzaluna I never did get the hang of using mine🙁

    Ophelia


    Well, if getting the hang of it is anything similar to what I saw the other
    day on America's Test Kitchen, I'd never do it. He was doing some green
    parsley; he was actually slamming/pounding/raising up/slamming down the mezz
    and giving it a split second rock when it came down. It looked like he was
    pulverizing the herbs; and must've had arms of steel. I'm still laughing at
    the action.
    Dee Dee

    Just rock it back and forth quickly, "walking" it slowly away from you
    in the meantime. Then, use it to gather the material in a pile, and
    start over. It minces very fine with a few passes As I mentioned a
    day or so ago, I use a plastic cutting board rather than a bowl. I
    have to say my mezzaluna could be sharper, but still, it does the job
    very well.

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  7. Sheldon said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone have an efficient technique for chopping large amounts of
    parsley? Lately I've been cooking with it a lot and have found that I
    get the best results when it's chopped almost to the consistency of a
    fine, moist grain. This, however takes a lot of time. I tried using
    my small electric chopper, but cleaning that takes almost as long as
    chopping the parsley by hand. Any thoughs?

    Also, is there a difference (other than texture) between the leaves of
    parsley and the stems? How about for Italian parsley?

    I just dry it in the dehydrator and crush it well with my fingers.
    Works for me and I do really like the flavor and color!

    I don't see where Harry asked about dehydrating parsley... that wasn't
    one of his concerns... and in any event it would make more sense to
    freeze any extra fresh parsley for future use. Dehy parsley has it's
    place but only as a last resort, a very last resort, as fresh parsley
    is readily available at the stupidmarket all year and it's relatively
    inexpensive. I grow my own and at the end of the growing season freeze
    a big bagful, usually takes me through until I can grow more next
    season. I can't remember the last time I bought parsley and even
    though I do have a jar of dehy about the only time I use any is as an
    occasional quickie garnish, to dust a bowl of tuna salad or the tops of
    defiled eggs.

    Unless one didn't own a freezer why would any normal brained person
    want to dehydrate perfectly good parsley???

    If they are anything like me, they tend to use their freezer space for
    the more expensive items like meats, fish, and poultry. I use a lot of
    parsley. My preferred method is vacuum sealing then freezing. I also
    dry enough to ensure I have a sufficient amount of parsley until the
    next growing season. That way if for some reason the freezers stopped,
    I still have a stash of parsley 😉

    Quoted message said:


    Sheldon

  8. Mark Thorson said:
    ~patches~ said:

    Perhaps something else is going on that makes it appear these foods are
    at fault when they really aren't. I love broccoli and often eat a bowl
    of steamed broccoli for a snack.

    Steamed would be fine. It's only raw that causes the
    problem. I've experimented with this -- I often now
    will eat a large bowl of Brussels sprouts or broccoli
    without any problem, fully cooked.

    Quoted message said:

    I generally eat broccoli and parsley
    daily, brussel sprouts when I can get them. All are rich in vit c and
    anti-oxidants. You said you quit eating beef so that may be part of the
    problem. Are you eating enough protein daily?

    I only quit eating beef this year, replaced by pork
    and chicken. The problem caused by my massive parsley
    consumption goes back over 20 years.

    How much is massive consumption? I can't imagine massive parsley
    consumption. I've made green drinks using raw parsley, use parsley in
    salads, use it in soups, eat it raw on a daily basis. I've never had a
    problem.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I agree with OmMani on
    the vit b-complex. You may want to try adding more fibre that acts as a
    cleanser for toxins in the body.

    Oh, yeah. Toxins.
    Isn't that what coffee enemas are for?

    Major shudder!!!!!!! Why waste good coffee on an enema? Fibre will
    remove or help to remove all the toxins you need too as will water. I
    would suggest a nice bran muffin daily. Females will benefit from
    cranberry jucice in addition to a bran muffin.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You may also want to check with your
    doctor to rule out any other problems.

    I'm not vegetarian and I eat beef. I take a high potency multivitamin
    as well as *mega* doses of vit c and b-complex daily.

    Megadoses of C raise the risk of kidney stones.
    I've already had one stone, which is enough.

    If you read the actual clinical data, mega doses of vit c do not raise
    the risk of kidney stones. I've followed all the data from Linus
    Pauling a strong proponent of mega doses of vit c.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As well as the
    anti-oxidants in the b-complex

    B vitamins are not antioxidants.
    You're confusing them with vitamins C and E.

    I don't think so. Try going to the actual scientific studies, read
    those, then come back and tell me I'm wrong.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it helps protect your body from daily stressors and
    the thiamine in it is particularily good for memory.
    It works for me and my doctor is aware of what I take.
    This is very important.

    It works for me! Heh. Those words are usually followed
    by a sales pitch for Herbalife or Scientology. :-)

    Since I do neither I wouldn't know. I said the mega doses of certain
    vitamins worked for me. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Quoted message said:


    You forgot to mention the ear candles! :-)

    Sorry I'm not into that type of alternative medications.

    OTOH, you asked for help then don't like the advise you get. So good
    luck. I have better things to do like cooking healthy meals. I wish
    you the best.

  9. Mr Libido Incognito said:

    ~patches~ wrote on 28 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    I dry or freeze the parsley using no preservatives. I find the
    frozen parsley keeps a greener appearance than and a closer to fresh
    taste the dried.

    Quoted message said:

    Drying my own is less expensive and fresher! Who knows how old
    some of that stuff on the shelf is? ;-)

    I know that my home dried herbs are better than anything I can
    buy.

    Isn't that the truth!

    I used to dry a mess of stuff from lime zest to celery leaves in a
    ceramic plate on top of my toaster oven. The toaster oven's surplus heat
    did the drying. And the ceramic plate stopped me from putting stuff that
    would melt or burn on top of the taster oven. So it was a win win dealie.
    Alas I no longer have a toater oven. Hopefully the dehydrator I ordered
    in May will get here soon. Curse you Ron Popeil!

    I hope it works out ok for you. Home dried always tastes better. While
    waiting you can dry herbs the old fashioned way by tying them in a
    bundle then hanging to dry in a cool, dark place.

  10. Max Hauser said:

    "Mark Thorson" in news:[email hidden]:
    | ...
    | Megadoses of C raise the risk of kidney stones.
    | I've already had one stone, which is enough.

    That's a good point (for instance, urinary oxalate is a major metabolic
    byproduct of the vitamin C not excreted directly, according to "Vitamin C"
    chapter in Goodman and Gilman, the standard medical pharmo text). I
    remember also a "bowel tolerance limit" circa 500mg/day (causes gas, if I
    remember) and there was that study a couple years ago showing correlation
    with surprisingly impaired arterial health above some moderate level of
    daily longterm megadose -- 500 mg/day? -- again from offhand memory. I
    don't know the larger story on that, or sequel studies. Someone with access
    to medline could cite them accurately.

    I have full access to medline but have not seen the study and I have
    kept up on the research. I would be interested in viewing their protocol
    and their final results. I know most of Linus Pauling's reseach. IME a
    megadose is greater than 500 mg/day. I'm at the 2000 mg/day dosage with
    no side effects. I've been at this level for several year now.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, I hope anyone taking 1000 or 2000 mg daily knows to break it into two
    or three divided doses, because the stuff passes through the body in a few
    hours and a single huge dose will temporarily lower urine pH as it
    accumulates there, and much of it then will pass out, wasted.


    Anyone on megadoses of vit c knows how to break up the doses 😉

  11. Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Sun 28 Aug 2005 12:58:40p, Mark Thorson wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:
    Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Sun 28 Aug 2005 11:17:41a, Mark Thorson wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    >I only quit eating beef this year, replaced by pork
    >and chicken. The problem caused by my massive parsley consumption
    >goes back over 20 years.

    I missed something here. What kind of problem did eating parsley cause?

    I gave my skin a slightly greenish hue. Even after
    three years of not eating any parsley it still
    hasn't gone away.

    Wow, I love parsley, but don't think I've ever eaten that large a quantity
    except, perhaps, in tabouli. Is there no type of treatment for this?
    Perhaps just time. Must be similar to having an orange tinged skin from
    eating too many carrots.

    If this effect has ever happened, I've never heard of it. Not that the
    OP hasn't experienced it, only I've never heard of it. Nor have I seen
    it reported in the scientific literature.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I could be happy with eating only the very occasional good burger or
    steak, and eat maily pork and chicken.

    You really did miss something, didn't you?
    We were talking about quitting pork and
    chicken in addition to beef, and how this
    would help tsunami victims in Asia.
    Please try to keep up. Thank you. :-)

    Well, yes, sorry... For myself, I would not stop eating meat unless it was
    ordered for a life-threatening situation. I don't care that much for fish.

    I won't bother you again.

    Wayne, my thoughts exactly. I certainly won't be bothering the OP again.

    Quoted message said:
  12. On Sun 28 Aug 2005 03:43:50p, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, yes, sorry... For myself, I would not stop eating meat unless
    it was
    ordered for a life-threatening situation. I don't care that much for
    fish.

    I won't bother you again.

    You have enough friends here not to bother yourself at all darling🙂)

    O

    Thanks, Ophelia, you're a sweetheart!

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    ____________________________________________

    My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four,
    unless there are three other people.

  13. On Sun 28 Aug 2005 04:37:21p, ~patches~ wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:
    Wayne Boatwright said:

    Wow, I love parsley, but don't think I've ever eaten that large a
    quantity except, perhaps, in tabouli. Is there no type of treatment
    for this? Perhaps just time. Must be similar to having an orange
    tinged skin from eating too many carrots.

    If this effect has ever happened, I've never heard of it. Not that the
    OP hasn't experienced it, only I've never heard of it. Nor have I seen
    it reported in the scientific literature.

    I have no scientific data, and I've never seen this with parsley, but I
    actually did see this occur in an individual with carrots. Seems they had
    been drinking quarts of freshly produced carrot juice every day for an
    extended period of time. It was almost as if they looked jaundiced, but
    more orange than yellow.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >I could be happy with eating only the very occasional good burger or
    >steak, and eat maily pork and chicken.

    You really did miss something, didn't you?
    We were talking about quitting pork and
    chicken in addition to beef, and how this
    would help tsunami victims in Asia.
    Please try to keep up. Thank you. :-)

    Well, yes, sorry... For myself, I would not stop eating meat unless it
    was ordered for a life-threatening situation. I don't care that much
    for fish.

    I won't bother you again.

    Wayne, my thoughts exactly. I certainly won't be bothering the OP
    again.

    Thanks, ~patches~

    Cheers!

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    ____________________________________________

    My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four,
    unless there are three other people.

  14. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    ~patches~ said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    I'm not Jill, but I also dry my own and it actually gets darker...
    And I use no preservatives.

    I dry or freeze the parsley using no preservatives. I find the
    frozen
    parsley keeps a greener appearance than and a closer to fresh taste
    the
    dried.

    Do you freeze it in ice cubes?
    I'd read that hint somewhere.
    To freeze it in actual ice cubes
    to keep it fresher?

    Quoted message said:

    I was recently flipping through La Varenne Pratique, and the author
    recommends cramming parsley(stems and all) tightly into a conatiner and
    freezing it. Then, she says you can grate the hunk as needed right out
    of the freezer. The grated bits will melt quickly. I haven't tried this
    yet.

    -T

  15. "~patches~" in news:[email hidden]:
    | Max Hauser wrote:
    || . . .
    || there was that study a couple years ago showing correlation
    || with surprisingly impaired arterial health above some moderate
    || level of daily longterm megadose -- 500 mg/day? -- again
    || from offhand memory. I don't know the larger story on that,
    || or sequel studies. Someone with access to medline could cite
    || them accurately.
    |
    | I have full access to medline but have not seen the study
    | and I have kept up on the research. I would be interested in
    | viewing their protocol and their final results.

    Yes exactly. It was mainstream media news at the time, and I've spoken with
    a couple of physicians who knew about it, but I cannot cite pinpoint.

    || Also, I hope anyone taking 1000 or 2000 mg daily knows
    || to break it into two or three divided doses, because the stuff
    || passes through the body in a few hours and a single huge
    || dose will temporarily lower urine pH as it accumulates there,
    || and much of it then will pass out, wasted.

    | Anyone on megadoses of vit c knows how to break up
    | the doses 😉

    Didn't get the 😉, patches (alas). One might hope that anyone would know to
    break up these megadoses, but I've met ones who didn't (Mathematician:
    "Disproof of general theory by counterexample. Quod erat inveniendum."😉 It
    is the kind of thing that the general public may do, given only a little
    technical information. Which as you know is a dangerous thing. ("Drink
    deep, or taste not the Pierian spring ..."😉

    Cheers -- Max

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    ~patches~ said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    ~patches~ said:

    OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

    >I'm not Jill, but I also dry my own and it actually gets darker...
    >And I use no preservatives.

    I dry or freeze the parsley using no preservatives. I find the frozen
    parsley keeps a greener appearance than and a closer to fresh taste the
    dried.

    Do you freeze it in ice cubes?
    I'd read that hint somewhere.
    To freeze it in actual ice cubes
    to keep it fresher?

    No, I use the vacuum sealer and feeze it in those bags. I have used the
    ice cubes for basil but not parsley. It works well.

    Ooh! I have a tilia and had not thought of that application for it,
    thanks! :-)
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    skoonj said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    ~patches~ said:

    OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

    > I'm not Jill, but I also dry my own and it actually gets darker...
    > And I use no preservatives.

    I dry or freeze the parsley using no preservatives. I find the
    frozen
    parsley keeps a greener appearance than and a closer to fresh taste
    the
    dried.

    Do you freeze it in ice cubes?
    I'd read that hint somewhere.
    To freeze it in actual ice cubes
    to keep it fresher?

    Quoted message said:

    I was recently flipping through La Varenne Pratique, and the author
    recommends cramming parsley(stems and all) tightly into a conatiner and
    freezing it. Then, she says you can grate the hunk as needed right out
    of the freezer. The grated bits will melt quickly. I haven't tried this
    yet.

    -T

    Hmmmmm... Sounds like a real PITA. ;-)
    Parsley is actually available at the grocery pretty much year round if I
    need fresh. Dried works for me most of the time, but I like the idea of
    vacuum freezing other fresh herbs that I grow, such as basil and dill.
    I might do some Dittany as well since, when it goes to bloom, the plant
    is almost worthless for flavoring foods!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  18. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Does anyone have an efficient technique for chopping large amounts of
    parsley? Lately I've been cooking with it a lot and have found that I
    get the best results when it's chopped almost to the consistency of a
    fine, moist grain. This, however takes a lot of time. I tried using
    my small electric chopper, but cleaning that takes almost as long as
    chopping the parsley by hand. Any thoughs?

    Also, is there a difference (other than texture) between the leaves of
    parsley and the stems? How about for Italian parsley?

    There is an old "trick"

    After washing the parsley start at the top (leaf end) and begin chopping do not
    remove the string/rubber band. When you get to mostly stem stop and discard the
    rest or save for soups/stocks.

    Grab a handful with several fingers and drop back onto the surface of the
    cutting board. Do this several times. You'll find the stems drop first to the
    bottom of the pile and the leafs are on the top.

    Separate the stems from the leafs and continue to chop to the desired size.

    Dimitri

  19. ~patches~ said:
    Sheldon said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] wrote:

    >Does anyone have an efficient technique for chopping large amounts of
    >parsley? Lately I've been cooking with it a lot and have found that I
    >get the best results when it's chopped almost to the consistency of a
    >fine, moist grain. This, however takes a lot of time. I tried using
    >my small electric chopper, but cleaning that takes almost as long as
    >chopping the parsley by hand. Any thoughs?
    >
    >Also, is there a difference (other than texture) between the leaves of
    >parsley and the stems? How about for Italian parsley?
    >

    I just dry it in the dehydrator and crush it well with my fingers.
    Works for me and I do really like the flavor and color!

    I don't see where Harry asked about dehydrating parsley... that wasn't
    one of his concerns... and in any event it would make more sense to
    freeze any extra fresh parsley for future use. Dehy parsley has it's
    place but only as a last resort, a very last resort, as fresh parsley
    is readily available at the stupidmarket all year and it's relatively
    inexpensive. I grow my own and at the end of the growing season freeze
    a big bagful, usually takes me through until I can grow more next
    season. I can't remember the last time I bought parsley and even
    though I do have a jar of dehy about the only time I use any is as an
    occasional quickie garnish, to dust a bowl of tuna salad or the tops of
    defiled eggs.

    Unless one didn't own a freezer why would any normal brained person
    want to dehydrate perfectly good parsley???

    If they are anything like me, they tend to use their freezer space for
    the more expensive items like meats, fish, and poultry.

    Pound for pound parsley costs about the same at the market as
    porterhouse... that's primarilly why I grow my own... these days fruit
    and veggies are outrageously pricey... a teeny bunch of parsley costs
    over a buck, weighs about an ounce and is mostly stems, and usually was
    just snatched outta the ground weeds and all... you're lucky to salvage
    a few grams of leaves. I freeze just leaves, choice leaves at that...
    and a zip-loc of parsley leaves flattened out takes very little freezer
    space. And btw, it costs more in electrical energy to run a home
    dehydrator than the parsley is worth, only a REALLY DUMB [censored] would
    dehydrate parsley... if it's dehy parsley you want it's cheaper and
    easier to just buy dehy.

    I used to grow herbs in pots on the windowsill but it's not really
    worth the trouble, it's much easier to simply grow extra and freeze
    enough to get through the winter. A cell-pac of six parsley plants
    costs a buck, will produce enough for any large family for the entire
    year.

    Sheldon

  20. ~patches~ said:
    Sheldon said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] wrote:

    >Does anyone have an efficient technique for chopping large amounts of
    >parsley? Lately I've been cooking with it a lot and have found that I
    >get the best results when it's chopped almost to the consistency of a
    >fine, moist grain. This, however takes a lot of time. I tried using
    >my small electric chopper, but cleaning that takes almost as long as
    >chopping the parsley by hand. Any thoughs?
    >
    >Also, is there a difference (other than texture) between the leaves of
    >parsley and the stems? How about for Italian parsley?
    >

    I just dry it in the dehydrator and crush it well with my fingers.
    Works for me and I do really like the flavor and color!

    I don't see where Harry asked about dehydrating parsley... that wasn't
    one of his concerns... and in any event it would make more sense to
    freeze any extra fresh parsley for future use. Dehy parsley has it's
    place but only as a last resort, a very last resort, as fresh parsley
    is readily available at the stupidmarket all year and it's relatively
    inexpensive. I grow my own and at the end of the growing season freeze
    a big bagful, usually takes me through until I can grow more next
    season. I can't remember the last time I bought parsley and even
    though I do have a jar of dehy about the only time I use any is as an
    occasional quickie garnish, to dust a bowl of tuna salad or the tops of
    defiled eggs.

    Unless one didn't own a freezer why would any normal brained person
    want to dehydrate perfectly good parsley???

    If they are anything like me, they tend to use their freezer space for
    the more expensive items like meats, fish, and poultry.

    Pound for pound parsley costs about the same at the market as
    porterhouse... that's primarilly why I grow my own... these days fruit
    and veggies are outrageously pricey... a teeny bunch of parsley costs
    over a buck, weighs about an ounce and is mostly stems, and usually was
    just snatched outta the ground weeds and all... you're lucky to salvage
    a few grams of leaves. I freeze just leaves, choice leaves at that...
    and a zip-loc of parsley leaves flattened out takes very little freezer
    space. And btw, it costs more in electrical energy to run a home
    dehydrator than the parsley is worth, only a REALLY DUMB [censored] would
    dehydrate parsley... if it's dehy parsley you want it's cheaper and
    easier to just buy dehy.

    I used to grow herbs in pots on the windowsill but it's not really
    worth the trouble, it's much easier to simply grow extra and freeze
    enough to get through the winter. A cell-pac of six parsley plants
    costs a buck, will produce enough for any large family for the entire
    year.

    Sheldon

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