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  1. She knows THE truth.

  2. crit PRO said:

    She knows THE truth.

    I hear that. But I think she's still too busy counting the $30 million
    in hush money - I mean divorce settlement money.

  3. Dans le message de
    news:[email hidden],
    DA74 <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

    Quoted message said:
    crit PRO said:

    She knows THE truth.

    I hear that. But I think she's still too busy counting the $30 million
    in hush money - I mean divorce settlement money.

    Just to add a small note of legal interest : she is unlikely to be able to
    testify about matters she knows about while his wife - spousal privilege can
    be claimed by Armstrong, should he choose to. Nothing to do with a
    settlement.
    --
    Bonne route !

    Sandy
    Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

  4. "Sandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Dans le message de
    news:[email hidden],
    DA74 <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

    Quoted message said:
    crit PRO said:

    She knows THE truth.

    I hear that. But I think she's still too busy counting the $30 million
    in hush money - I mean divorce settlement money.

    Just to add a small note of legal interest : she is unlikely to be able to
    testify about matters she knows about while his wife - spousal privilege
    can be claimed by Armstrong, should he choose to. Nothing to do with a
    settlement.
    --
    Bonne route !

    Sandy
    Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

    Sandy, IIRC, the privilege is held by the speaker of the words. A court
    could not compel her to testify but she could of her own volition.

  5. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Sandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Dans le message de
    news:[email hidden],
    DA74 <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

    Quoted message said:

    crit PRO wrote:
    > She knows THE truth.

    I hear that. But I think she's still too busy counting the $30 million
    in hush money - I mean divorce settlement money.

    Just to add a small note of legal interest : she is unlikely to be able
    to testify about matters she knows about while his wife - spousal
    privilege can be claimed by Armstrong, should he choose to. Nothing to
    do with a settlement.
    --
    Bonne route !

    Sandy
    Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

    Sandy, IIRC, the privilege is held by the speaker of the words. A court
    could not compel her to testify but she could of her own volition.

    There is, again IIRC, a spousal testimony privilege and a spousal
    communication privilege. I think Kristen could speak with L'Equipe at her
    pleasure. Since she already has the money (presumably) and her kids are
    entitled to support regardless of her, she probably is under no duty to be
    quiet unless there's a confidentiality agreement in the divorce settlement.
    David Bowie's ex was under a ten year confidentiality clause and published
    her book on their marriage a day or two after the ten years ran.

  6. Dans le message de
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    B. Lafferty <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

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    "Sandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Dans le message de
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    DA74 <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

    Quoted message said:

    crit PRO wrote:
    > She knows THE truth.

    I hear that. But I think she's still too busy counting the $30
    million in hush money - I mean divorce settlement money.

    Just to add a small note of legal interest : she is unlikely to be
    able to testify about matters she knows about while his wife -
    spousal privilege can be claimed by Armstrong, should he choose to.
    Nothing to do with a settlement.
    --
    Bonne route !

    Sandy
    Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

    Sandy, IIRC, the privilege is held by the speaker of the words. A
    court could not compel her to testify but she could of her own
    volition.

    Not quite - the witness is sitting, ready to answer. Either may invoke the
    privilege, but it is usually the attorney for the party directly involved
    who makes an objection. The privilege is not absolute, such as when words
    or acts happen in the presence of a third party, or if they are testifying
    against each other, and other small exceptions. The privilege is for all
    words of both parties, spoken in their exclusive mutual company, or acts in
    such a setting.

  7. "Sandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Dans le message de
    news:[email hidden],
    B. Lafferty <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

    Quoted message said:

    "Sandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

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    Dans le message de
    news:[email hidden],
    DA74 <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
    > crit PRO wrote:
    >> She knows THE truth.
    >
    > I hear that. But I think she's still too busy counting the $30
    > million in hush money - I mean divorce settlement money.

    Just to add a small note of legal interest : she is unlikely to be
    able to testify about matters she knows about while his wife -
    spousal privilege can be claimed by Armstrong, should he choose to.
    Nothing to do with a settlement.
    --
    Bonne route !

    Sandy
    Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

    Sandy, IIRC, the privilege is held by the speaker of the words. A
    court could not compel her to testify but she could of her own
    volition.

    Not quite - the witness is sitting, ready to answer. Either may invoke
    the privilege, but it is usually the attorney for the party directly
    involved who makes an objection. The privilege is not absolute, such as
    when words or acts happen in the presence of a third party, or if they are
    testifying against each other, and other small exceptions. The privilege
    is for all words of both parties, spoken in their exclusive mutual
    company, or acts in such a setting.

    Assuming that there are no exceptions that apply, she could testify about
    the EPO in the fridge, the steroids in the medicine cabinet, etc.

  8. Sandy said:

    Not quite - the witness is sitting, ready to answer. Either may invoke the
    privilege, but it is usually the attorney for the party directly involved
    who makes an objection. The privilege is not absolute, such as when words
    or acts happen in the presence of a third party, or if they are testifying
    against each other, and other small exceptions. The privilege is for all
    words of both parties, spoken in their exclusive mutual company, or acts in
    such a setting.

    And in the U.S. its nowhere that simple. In some states they make
    exceptions in a varied set of crimes and especially when one spouse
    use the privilige to quiet the spouse while making claims relying on
    the quiet. So it wouldn't be a likely scenario, but if LA faced
    criminal charges of drug use in the right state, and he made the
    statement that he had never used drugs, knowing that Kristen knew
    otherwise, AND it fell into one of those list of crimes (more likely
    if he were using meth around the kids - endangering the kids is right
    there at the top of the list), she could testify on her own volition.

    If the above unlikely scenario (meth around the kids) played out, she
    could be compelled to testify in some states in the U.S. There has
    been some discussion about battered wife syndrome and a reluctance to
    testify even when the crime is against the woman. The spousal
    testimony privlege 'exception' is more like a 'compulsion'.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  9. But that's only the 'half of it. Now for the choice of law question.
    Are you going to apply the law of the jurisdiction in which the
    communication took place or that of the jurisdiction where the legal
    proceeding takes place. And then there is the question whose choice
    of law laws will be used to render the decision.

    bon a petit

    ray

  10. Quoted message said:

    But that's only the 'half of it. Now for the choice of law question.
    Are you going to apply the law of the jurisdiction in which the
    communication took place or that of the jurisdiction where the legal
    proceeding takes place. And then there is the question whose choice
    of law laws will be used to render the decision.

    bon a petit

    ray

    'a small good'?

    -jet

  11. crit PRO said:

    She knows THE truth.

    On the other hand LA might discredit her by releasing the tapes of her
    repeated "action" with "help" that led to their separation...

  12. Keith said:
    crit PRO said:

    She knows THE truth.

    On the other hand LA might discredit her by releasing the tapes of her
    repeated "action" with "help" that led to their separation...

    She wouldn't do anything overt because she knows it would affect the kids
    to have their father discredited or harmed, regardless of what she (now)
    thinks of L, istm.

    -jet

  13. Dans le message de
    news:[email hidden],
    [email hidden] <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré
    :

    Quoted message said:

    But that's only the 'half of it. Now for the choice of law question.
    Are you going to apply the law of the jurisdiction in which the
    communication took place or that of the jurisdiction where the legal
    proceeding takes place. And then there is the question whose choice
    of law laws will be used to render the decision.


    Simple - you wait until you know the jurisdiction the matter is presented
    in, and refer to its choice of law and renvoi rules.
    --
    Bonne route !

    Sandy
    Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

  14. But could you wait until then.

    ray

    See, supra,: "Just to add a small note of legal interest : she is
    unlikely to be able to
    testify about matters she knows about while his wife - spousal
    privilege can
    be claimed by Armstrong, should he choose to. Nothing to do with a
    settlement.
    --
    Bonne route !

    Sandy
    Verneuil-sur-Seine FR "

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    She knows THE truth.

    It would be hard to believe anything she has to say. Especially after a
    divorce.
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    Alex

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