Vegetarian Diet Nutrition and Energy Levels

Quoted message said:

I have been a vegetarian for most of the last decade, but one thing
that concerns me is my very poor energy level. Although I am not old (I
am 32), I often feel tired and deflated, and I have to set my alarm
clock an hour before I actually get up as it takes me this long to
summon the will to get out of bed (incidentally, I have never been a
good sleeper either). I was wondering if this could be diet related, as
I have read that vegetarians who return to eating meat find that their
energy levels rocket upwards. Is there any scientific basis to this
idea, and if so are there alternatives to eating meat that I can try? I
really don't want to eat meat again, but I would certainly try herbal
supplements or altering my diet while remaining a vegetarian. Any
assistance offered would be gratefully received.

Well, assuming you are disease-free, you could simply be malnourished.
Many vegetarians like to gorge on high-refined carbs and forget good
fats and protein. You may also be deficient in Vitaming B12.

Things to supplement with could be:

1) Good Multivitamin, ex:
http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00659.html

2) Fish, sesame and olive oils, ex:
http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00820.html

3) Whey protein (w/ Creatine and Glutamine), ex:
http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00611.html

At the very least, you should get a good, high-potency multivitamin.

Quoted message said:

Hi there,

I have been a vegetarian for most of the last decade, but one thing
that concerns me is my very poor energy level. Although I am not old (I
am 32), I often feel tired and deflated, and I have to set my alarm
clock an hour before I actually get up as it takes me this long to
summon the will to get out of bed (incidentally, I have never been a
good sleeper either). I was wondering if this could be diet related,

A balanced vegetarien diet should provide you with all nutrients
required. In your case I'd recommend a thorough medical examination.
That should also show up any nutrient deficiency, although I suspect
that the cause of your problems is not nutrition related. There is no
point in silently suffering when help may be at hand rather easily.

Quoted message said:

Hi there,

I have been a vegetarian for most of the last decade, but one thing
that concerns me is my very poor energy level. Although I am not old (I
am 32), I often feel tired and deflated, and I have to set my alarm
clock an hour before I actually get up as it takes me this long to
summon the will to get out of bed (incidentally, I have never been a
good sleeper either). I was wondering if this could be diet related, as
I have read that vegetarians who return to eating meat find that their
energy levels rocket upwards. Is there any scientific basis to this
idea, and if so are there alternatives to eating meat that I can try? I
really don't want to eat meat again, but I would certainly try herbal
supplements or altering my diet while remaining a vegetarian. Any
assistance offered would be gratefully received.

I think you have proved beyond any doubt that a vegetarian diet is not
healthy for you. Your body is desperately needing animal nutrients. Do
yourself a favor and start gradually including animal based foods into
you diet. Start with small amounts of fish, then chicken, eggs and so on.

I feel sorry for people who have been lead to believe that
vegetarianisms is a healthy, a spiritual, and an environmentally
friendly way of life. Vegetarianism sounds beautiful in theory and it
works well for the first few months to a few years, but then things
start to go downhill.

Perhaps the most convincing argument against vegetarianism is that there
are/were no known vegetarian peoples in the world. Also, the longest
living people in the world, for example, the Okinawans, eat meat every day.

A few links that may help you save your health:
http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtvegetarianism.html
http://www.beyondveg.com/ (read what long, long time vegetarians have to
say about it)

--
Dawid Michalczyk
http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration

It could also be a food allergy. I have an allergy to corn and corn
based products (maize starch, etc), and since I have cut it out, my
energy level has increased tremendously. I had been tired for about 9
years. If you aren't malnurished, as someone else suggested, then try
cutting things out one at a time for a couple weeks. Keep a diary of
what you've eaten and see which days correspond to the most tired days.
I also found other symptoms ended when I cut out corn...symptoms I'd
lived with my whole life, so I just assumed they were normal.

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Dr Engelbert Buxbaum said:

Quoted message said:

Hi there,

I have been a vegetarian for most of the last decade, but one thing
that concerns me is my very poor energy level. Although I am not old (I
am 32), I often feel tired and deflated, and I have to set my alarm
clock an hour before I actually get up as it takes me this long to
summon the will to get out of bed (incidentally, I have never been a
good sleeper either). I was wondering if this could be diet related,

A balanced vegetarien diet should provide you with all nutrients
required. In your case I'd recommend a thorough medical examination.
That should also show up any nutrient deficiency, although I suspect
that the cause of your problems is not nutrition related. There is no
point in silently suffering when help may be at hand rather easily.

It most definitely *could* be diet related. What the OP describes is
exactly what's happened to my child each time vegetarianism was
attempted. It even happened when making sure to get a lot of protein
from whey peptides, tempeh, black soybeans, tofu, etc, along with plenty
of EFAs and colorful veggies.

Each time, resuming consumption of animal protein reversed the awful
weakness and difficulty waking and getting started each day.

Susan

"Just Cocky" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have been a vegetarian for most of the last decade, but one thing
that concerns me is my very poor energy level. Although I am not old (I
am 32), I often feel tired and deflated, and I have to set my alarm
clock an hour before I actually get up as it takes me this long to
summon the will to get out of bed (incidentally, I have never been a
good sleeper either). I was wondering if this could be diet related, as
I have read that vegetarians who return to eating meat find that their
energy levels rocket upwards. Is there any scientific basis to this
idea, and if so are there alternatives to eating meat that I can try? I
really don't want to eat meat again, but I would certainly try herbal
supplements or altering my diet while remaining a vegetarian. Any
assistance offered would be gratefully received.

Well, assuming you are disease-free, you could simply be malnourished.
Many vegetarians like to gorge on high-refined carbs and forget good
fats and protein. You may also be deficient in Vitaming B12.

Things to supplement with could be:

1) Good Multivitamin, ex:
http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00659.html

2) Fish, sesame and olive oils, ex:
http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00820.html

Hmm fish oil wouldn`t be right for me as a vegetarian.
Allthough a supermarket pulled a veggie meat supplement because
in the flavouring they used fish oil. You can see that you can`t trust
supermarkets. ;o)
(it wasn`t the kind I used, but still)

Quoted message said:

3) Whey protein (w/ Creatine and Glutamine), ex:
http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00611.html

At the very least, you should get a good, high-potency multivitamin.

Yeah I use that too, a long time now, but I know it is the stress from my
job ;o)

Susan said:

Each time, resuming consumption of animal protein reversed the awful
weakness and difficulty waking and getting started each day.

Then the diet was not really balanced. Note also that a vegetarian diet
may contain animal proteins from milk products and eggs. A vegan diet
without any animal products is a complicated effort, requires constant
attention to proper mixing of protein sources and supplementation with
Vit. B12, which is not produced by plants. Especially for growing
children not something I'd recommend.

The point I was making in my earlier post is that the symptoms described
by the OP can have several causes, most not related to nutrition and
easily rectified once diagnosed. But that can not be done over the
internet.

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 15:10:13 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:

this can be easily explained if your blood type is O or B. People
with these blood types are not genetically designed to thrive as
vegetarians.

I'm one who tried:

http://www.uoregon.edu/~sshapiro/Pemphigus

If your blood type is A or AB, then thriving as a vegetarian is quite
possible, provided one is not a starchitarian. Their are specific
recommendations for each blood type as too which specific foods are
healthy. Just because a food is a vegetable does not mean it is
healthy for me.

Additional resources and information:

http://www.dadamo.com

books are available in most bookstores and librarys.

best wishes,

steve

Quoted message said:

Hi there,

I have been a vegetarian for most of the last decade, but one thing
that concerns me is my very poor energy level. Although I am not old (I
am 32), I often feel tired and deflated, and I have to set my alarm
clock an hour before I actually get up as it takes me this long to
summon the will to get out of bed (incidentally, I have never been a
good sleeper either). I was wondering if this could be diet related, as
I have read that vegetarians who return to eating meat find that their
energy levels rocket upwards. Is there any scientific basis to this
idea, and if so are there alternatives to eating meat that I can try? I
really don't want to eat meat again, but I would certainly try herbal
supplements or altering my diet while remaining a vegetarian. Any
assistance offered would be gratefully received.

Many thanks,

QH

On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 13:48:31 +0200, Dawid Michalczyk <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I think you have proved beyond any doubt that a vegetarian diet is not
healthy for you. Your body is desperately needing animal nutrients. Do
yourself a favor and start gradually including animal based foods into
you diet. Start with small amounts of fish, then chicken, eggs and so on.

Watch out for the religious veggie nutburgers that hang out in this
newsgroup. They are convinced that a veggie diet is not only optimal
but that we are frugivores. Hey, every vegetarian site will tell you
that so it must be true. LOL.

Quoted message said:

I feel sorry for people who have been lead to believe that
vegetarianisms is a healthy, a spiritual, and an environmentally
friendly way of life. Vegetarianism sounds beautiful in theory and it
works well for the first few months to a few years, but then things
start to go downhill.

You talk blasphemy! Beware the vegetarian carrot god for he shall
smite thine ass and send thee to a meat processing plant in New
Jersey!

Quoted message said:

Perhaps the most convincing argument against vegetarianism is that there
are/were no known vegetarian peoples in the world. Also, the longest
living people in the world, for example, the Okinawans, eat meat every day.

You still haven't learned, have you? Vegetarian diets don't fail,
people fail vegetarian diets. Ya, that's the ticket! ;o)

Quoted message said:

A few links that may help you save your health:
http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtvegetarianism.html
http://www.beyondveg.com/ (read what long, long time vegetarians have to
say about it)

The webmeister of that last site is actually a vegetarian and a
down-to-earth, realistic one at that! Vegetarians, however, do not
like the man because he is not blinded by idealistic vegetarian babble
and pseudoscience.

RBR

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:30:52 -0700, sTeve <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 15:10:13 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:

this can be easily explained if your blood type is O or B. People
with these blood types are not genetically designed to thrive as
vegetarians.

Wow! There are still suckers that actually believe in this quack diet?

Quoted message said:

I'm one who tried:

http://www.uoregon.edu/~sshapiro/Pemphigus

If your blood type is A or AB, then thriving as a vegetarian is quite
possible, provided one is not a starchitarian. Their are specific
recommendations for each blood type as too which specific foods are
healthy. Just because a food is a vegetable does not mean it is
healthy for me.

Run, don't walk away from this quack diet.

Quoted message said:

Additional resources and information:

http://www.dadamo.com

books are available in most bookstores and librarys.

Hopefully no one buys them. As long as they *stay* on the shelves no
harm will be done.

Quoted message said:

best wishes,

Ya, right! <sigh>

Quoted message said:

steve

RBR