Suggestions please

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

Hey buddy screw you!!!!!!!!!!! I will come down on you like a 6' 280 lbs bag
of bricks!!!!! Your stupid white ass doesn't even want to try to tangle
with me! I just asked a couple of simple questions and everyone else but
you were very helpful. Maybe you shouldn't post if you don't have anything
nice to say.

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Kill yourself, for the good of all humanity.

Martin, each Sunday I post a list of low-carb tips (you can Google it or
wait for Sunday). In it I specifically mention JC der Koenig because he
IS the resident troll. He insults EVERYONE and on occasion advises
people to kill themselves, especially newbies (usually within minutes of
their first post). Just filter out his posts and ignore him --
otherwise you'll make him feel "special".

--
Saffire
205/132/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

*** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance
in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. ***

"Doug Freyburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Martin Redfoot said:

I have looked at the website as others have suggested. I was basically
doing everything right except for the veggies.

Since the veggies are mandatory and a primary tool of
the process the idea that you were "doing everything
right except" is rather like saying that everything is
right with your car except for the engine.

Quoted message said:

I may buy the book when my finances allow it.

They don't have libraries in your area? They don't
have used bookstores in your area? If you can't
afford the three dollars for a used book I hope you
posted this from one of the free computers in the
library. Oh wait ...

You're not doing very well as a starting Usenet user.
Hostile, not bothering to learn the regulars, not
bothering to follow the rules. Unfortunately this
does not bode well for your long term success. If you
are that slap-dash in seeking advice, what's the chance
you will adhere to the actual program well enough to
suceed? Not high I'm afraid. If you get this angry
at good simple advice on how to use a newsgorup or on
what book to read, what's the chance you'll stick with
the program during week 3? Not good enough for you to
learn in advance what happens in week 3 I'm afraid.

I don't think telling someone to kill themself is good simple advice. I am
on week three and have stocked up on plenty of fruit and leafy greens to go
with the meat. I'll let you know how it goes.

Nevermind dudes,

This twerp is a troll...

and a bad one at that. ;-)

In article <[email hidden]>,

Martin Redfoot said:

What's the difference Mr Einstein.

"FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

You should be sorrier for calling a newsgroup a chat room.

In news:[email hidden],
Martin Redfoot <[email hidden]> stated
||
|
| Well Mr Blow Job in Texas I'm sorry for not knowing the rep of every
| person in this chat room.

--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

Martin Redfoot said:

"Doug Freyburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Martin Redfoot said:

I have looked at the website as others have suggested. I was basically
doing everything right except for the veggies.

Since the veggies are mandatory and a primary tool of
the process the idea that you were "doing everything
right except" is rather like saying that everything is
right with your car except for the engine.

Quoted message said:

I may buy the book when my finances allow it.

They don't have libraries in your area? They don't
have used bookstores in your area? If you can't
afford the three dollars for a used book I hope you
posted this from one of the free computers in the
library. Oh wait ...

You're not doing very well as a starting Usenet user.
Hostile, not bothering to learn the regulars, not
bothering to follow the rules. Unfortunately this
does not bode well for your long term success. If you
are that slap-dash in seeking advice, what's the chance
you will adhere to the actual program well enough to
suceed? Not high I'm afraid. If you get this angry
at good simple advice on how to use a newsgorup or on
what book to read, what's the chance you'll stick with
the program during week 3? Not good enough for you to
learn in advance what happens in week 3 I'm afraid.

I don't think telling someone to kill themself is good simple advice. I am
on week three and have stocked up on plenty of fruit and leafy greens to go
with the meat. I'll let you know how it goes.

Fruit is a mistake.

Read the books.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Chat is IRC, it's realtime, newsgroups are Usenet, more like bulletin
boards, you post and read at your convenience. If you're not in a chatroom
when a conversation occurs you will never see it.

In news:[email hidden],
Martin Redfoot <[email hidden]> stated
| What's the difference Mr Einstein.
|

A newby troll, at that.

In news:[email hidden],
OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> stated
| Nevermind dudes,
|
| This twerp is a troll...
|
| and a bad one at that. ;-)
|

The book : "Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution" can be purchased from the used
vendors at Amazon.com for 1 cent plus shipping.

"Martin Redfoot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I have looked at the website as others have suggested. I was basically
doing everything right except for the veggies. I may buy the book when my
finances allow it.

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Well, like they said, read the book, or one of the books. You can also

pick

Quoted message said:

up a lot from the Atkins website:
http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/15-464579.html

Persons with a very high percentage of dietary fat often report

regularity.

Quoted message said:

Info on Fiber:
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/bran_and_cancer.html

How did you know JC was white?

Cubit

"Martin Redfoot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
I've been doing Adkins for about two weeks now and lost about 8 pounds

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

far. I'm just not sure how much longer I can go eating only bacon, eggs,

and

Quoted message said:

burgers. How much longer do I need to go before I can add some carbs?

I've

Quoted message said:

been taken fiber tablets, but i'm still not as regular as I used to be.

Any

Quoted message said:

suggestions on some foods I can add until carbs are allowed?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Martin Redfoot said:

"Doug Freyburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Martin Redfoot said:

I have looked at the website as others have suggested. I was basically
doing everything right except for the veggies.

Since the veggies are mandatory and a primary tool of
the process the idea that you were "doing everything
right except" is rather like saying that everything is
right with your car except for the engine.

Quoted message said:

I may buy the book when my finances allow it.

They don't have libraries in your area? They don't
have used bookstores in your area? If you can't
afford the three dollars for a used book I hope you
posted this from one of the free computers in the
library. Oh wait ...

You're not doing very well as a starting Usenet user.
Hostile, not bothering to learn the regulars, not
bothering to follow the rules. Unfortunately this
does not bode well for your long term success. If you
are that slap-dash in seeking advice, what's the chance
you will adhere to the actual program well enough to
suceed? Not high I'm afraid. If you get this angry
at good simple advice on how to use a newsgorup or on
what book to read, what's the chance you'll stick with
the program during week 3? Not good enough for you to
learn in advance what happens in week 3 I'm afraid.

I don't think telling someone to kill themself is good simple advice. I am
on week three and have stocked up on plenty of fruit and leafy greens to go
with the meat. I'll let you know how it goes.

Um, yeah. Fruit is not low-carb. I think the advice to kill yourself
was a bit much, there may be something worthwhile in you we haven't seen
yet. But let's do a rundown of what we DO know about you:

You claim to be on a diet plan you can't spell.
You haven't been eating vegetables, which is one of the requirements of
the plan you claim you're on.
You don't know the difference between a newsgroup and a chat room.
You claim you don't have enough money to buy a book which you can get
for free at the library.
And now you've bought a bunch of fruit, which isn't allowed in the early
stages of the diet you claim you're on.

You're making me laugh and weep for humanity all at the same time.
Don't kill yourself, I need some entertainment.

--
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

string cheese, chicken, salsa, olives, cream cheese.

You don't have to do Atkins. I am sorry you have been treated unfairly. Just ignore---live and learn. You can check out books at the library. Try spinach, broccoli, cheese, cauliflower..etc.

Great job on losing 8lbs🙂

"Martin Redfoot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
I've been doing Adkins for about two weeks now and lost about 8 pounds so far. I'm just not sure how much longer I can go eating only bacon, eggs, and burgers. How much longer do I need to go before I can add some carbs? I've been taken fiber tablets, but i'm still not as regular as I used to be. Any suggestions on some foods I can add until carbs are allowed?

Luna wrote:
|| "Martin Redfoot" <[email hidden]> wrote:
||I may buy the book when my finances allow it.

| You claim you don't have enough money to buy a book which you can get
| for free at the library.

This is the same excuse that Preesi used to use for not sticking to Atkins;
she couldn't afford the book. As she posted to the Usenet on her $1500
computer and $49.95/month Comcast broadband connection ...

--
Peter
Website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

I bet you're already out of breath, fatBoy.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Martin Redfoot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hey buddy screw you!!!!!!!!!!! I will come down on you like a 6' 280 lbs
bag
of bricks!!!!! Your stupid white ass doesn't even want to try to tangle
with me! I just asked a couple of simple questions and everyone else but
you were very helpful. Maybe you shouldn't post if you don't have
anything
nice to say.

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Kill yourself, for the good of all humanity.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Martin Redfoot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
I've been doing Adkins for about two weeks now and lost about 8 pounds so
far. I'm just not sure how much longer I can go eating only bacon, eggs,

and

Quoted message said:

burgers. How much longer do I need to go before I can add some carbs?

I've

Quoted message said:

been taken fiber tablets, but i'm still not as regular as I used to be.

Any

Quoted message said:

suggestions on some foods I can add until carbs are allowed?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Luna said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Martin Redfoot said:

"Doug Freyburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Martin Redfoot wrote:
>
> I have looked at the website as others have suggested. I was basically
> doing everything right except for the veggies.

Since the veggies are mandatory and a primary tool of
the process the idea that you were "doing everything
right except" is rather like saying that everything is
right with your car except for the engine.

> I may buy the book when my finances allow it.

They don't have libraries in your area? They don't
have used bookstores in your area? If you can't
afford the three dollars for a used book I hope you
posted this from one of the free computers in the
library. Oh wait ...

You're not doing very well as a starting Usenet user.
Hostile, not bothering to learn the regulars, not
bothering to follow the rules. Unfortunately this
does not bode well for your long term success. If you
are that slap-dash in seeking advice, what's the chance
you will adhere to the actual program well enough to
suceed? Not high I'm afraid. If you get this angry
at good simple advice on how to use a newsgorup or on
what book to read, what's the chance you'll stick with
the program during week 3? Not good enough for you to
learn in advance what happens in week 3 I'm afraid.

I don't think telling someone to kill themself is good simple advice. I am
on week three and have stocked up on plenty of fruit and leafy greens to go
with the meat. I'll let you know how it goes.

Um, yeah. Fruit is not low-carb. I think the advice to kill yourself
was a bit much, there may be something worthwhile in you we haven't seen
yet. But let's do a rundown of what we DO know about you:

You claim to be on a diet plan you can't spell.
You haven't been eating vegetables, which is one of the requirements of
the plan you claim you're on.
You don't know the difference between a newsgroup and a chat room.
You claim you don't have enough money to buy a book which you can get
for free at the library.
And now you've bought a bunch of fruit, which isn't allowed in the early
stages of the diet you claim you're on.

You're making me laugh and weep for humanity all at the same time.
Don't kill yourself, I need some entertainment.

Good summation Luna. ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Martin Redfoot said:

"Doug Freyburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Martin Redfoot wrote:
>
> I have looked at the website as others have suggested. I was

basically

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> doing everything right except for the veggies.

Since the veggies are mandatory and a primary tool of
the process the idea that you were "doing everything
right except" is rather like saying that everything is
right with your car except for the engine.

> I may buy the book when my finances allow it.

They don't have libraries in your area? They don't
have used bookstores in your area? If you can't
afford the three dollars for a used book I hope you
posted this from one of the free computers in the
library. Oh wait ...

You're not doing very well as a starting Usenet user.
Hostile, not bothering to learn the regulars, not
bothering to follow the rules. Unfortunately this
does not bode well for your long term success. If you
are that slap-dash in seeking advice, what's the chance
you will adhere to the actual program well enough to
suceed? Not high I'm afraid. If you get this angry
at good simple advice on how to use a newsgorup or on
what book to read, what's the chance you'll stick with
the program during week 3? Not good enough for you to
learn in advance what happens in week 3 I'm afraid.

I don't think telling someone to kill themself is good simple advice. I

am

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on week three and have stocked up on plenty of fruit and leafy greens to

go

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with the meat. I'll let you know how it goes.

Um, yeah. Fruit is not low-carb. I think the advice to kill yourself
was a bit much, there may be something worthwhile in you we haven't seen
yet. But let's do a rundown of what we DO know about you:

You claim to be on a diet plan you can't spell.
You haven't been eating vegetables, which is one of the requirements of
the plan you claim you're on.
You don't know the difference between a newsgroup and a chat room.
You claim you don't have enough money to buy a book which you can get
for free at the library.
And now you've bought a bunch of fruit, which isn't allowed in the early
stages of the diet you claim you're on.

You're making me laugh and weep for humanity all at the same time.
Don't kill yourself, I need some entertainment.

So I typod the name and screwed up on the veggies. I have now remedied the
veggie situation. I've made it through induction, just without veggies, so I
am now looking at phase 2. According to the Atkins web site on phase two I
can have certain fruits. Maybe you should read the book.

Thanks Jolinda. As of this morning i'm down 9 pounds. : )

"JOLINDA RANEY" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
string cheese, chicken, salsa, olives, cream cheese.

You don't have to do Atkins. I am sorry you have been treated unfairly. Just
ignore---live and learn. You can check out books at the library. Try
spinach, broccoli, cheese, cauliflower..etc.

Great job on losing 8lbs🙂

"Martin Redfoot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
I've been doing Adkins for about two weeks now and lost about 8 pounds so
far. I'm just not sure how much longer I can go eating only bacon, eggs, and
burgers. How much longer do I need to go before I can add some carbs? I've
been taken fiber tablets, but i'm still not as regular as I used to be. Any
suggestions on some foods I can add until carbs are allowed?

Once I figure out how to killfile you're gone jerkwad!!!

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I bet you're already out of breath, fatBoy.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Martin Redfoot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hey buddy screw you!!!!!!!!!!! I will come down on you like a 6' 280 lbs
bag
of bricks!!!!! Your stupid white ass doesn't even want to try to tangle
with me! I just asked a couple of simple questions and everyone else

but

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

you were very helpful. Maybe you shouldn't post if you don't have
anything
nice to say.

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Kill yourself, for the good of all humanity.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --

MFW

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"Martin Redfoot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
I've been doing Adkins for about two weeks now and lost about 8 pounds

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

far. I'm just not sure how much longer I can go eating only bacon,

eggs,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and

Quoted message said:

burgers. How much longer do I need to go before I can add some carbs?

I've

Quoted message said:

been taken fiber tablets, but i'm still not as regular as I used to be.

Any

Quoted message said:

suggestions on some foods I can add until carbs are allowed?

Once again you prove that obesity and idiocy are inextricably linked.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Martin Redfoot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Once I figure out how to killfile you're gone jerkwad!!!

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I bet you're already out of breath, fatBoy.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Martin Redfoot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hey buddy screw you!!!!!!!!!!! I will come down on you like a 6' 280
lbs
bag
of bricks!!!!! Your stupid white ass doesn't even want to try to
tangle
with me! I just asked a couple of simple questions and everyone else

but

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

you were very helpful. Maybe you shouldn't post if you don't have
anything
nice to say.

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Kill yourself, for the good of all humanity.
>
> --
> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --

MFW

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
>
> "Martin Redfoot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> I've been doing Adkins for about two weeks now and lost about 8 pounds

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> far. I'm just not sure how much longer I can go eating only bacon,

eggs,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and
> burgers. How much longer do I need to go before I can add some carbs?
I've
> been taken fiber tablets, but i'm still not as regular as I used to
> be.
Any
> suggestions on some foods I can add until carbs are allowed?
>
>

"Martin Redfoot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Thanks Jolinda. As of this morning i'm down 9 pounds. : )

9 lbs. That's good.

Try some of my favorites.

Chicken Caesar Salad (without croutons of course)
Fry chicken with some seasoning salt or other spices. Add parmesan cheese
and Caesar salad dressing to chopped romaine. Slice chicken into strips and
lay on top.

Lettuce Wraps
Sliced onions, tomatoes, and green pepper combined with taco spiced beef
and shredded cheddar cheese. Use a large romaine lettuce leaf to wrap it in.
Onions and tomatoes are a little higher carb, so use less if you are at a
lower carb count.

Fried Shrimp With Cole Slaw
Fry frozen peeled shrimp in butter. Make your own cole slaw using
cabbage, a little pickle juice, some mayonnaise, and a little mustard.

Lasagna (without noodles)
There are lots of different recipes, but we use one that included
veggies like spinach, onion, and celery. Tomato sauce would be higher carb
because of the concentration, so don't use as much as the recipe calls for.
This one may be better for the maintenance phase than for on going
weightloss.

Fish and Steamed Broccoli
This one's easy

Omelets
Ham, cheese, onion, mushrooms and green pepper

Chef's Salad
Ham ( or cold cuts ), cheddar cheese, eggs, lettuce(50%), (the
rest)broccoli, cauliflower, green pepper, green onion, radishes. If your
carb count allows, a little salad dressing too.

Mediterranean Salad
I just kind of wing it. Romaine lettuce, red onion, peppers, olives, feta
cheese, with olive oil and balsamic vinegar. Watch the carb count on the
balsamic, or use plain vinegar spiced with some oregano, and basil.

Snacks (or a meal)
Nuts. Pecans are high fiber and also my favorite. Beef jerky (making your
own is best with spices and a dehydrator or oven on no higher than 160F).
Devilled eggs are great too, using; mayonnaise, mustard, and paprika mixed
with the egg yokes.

Goodluck

Quoted message said:

I've been doing Adkins for about two weeks now and lost about 8 pounds

so

Quoted message said:

far. I'm just not sure how much longer I can go eating only bacon, eggs,

and

Quoted message said:

burgers. How much longer do I need to go before I can add some carbs?

I've

Quoted message said:

been taken fiber tablets, but i'm still not as regular as I used to be.

Any

Quoted message said:

suggestions on some foods I can add until carbs are allowed?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Martin Redfoot said:

Quoted message said:

So I typod the name and screwed up on the veggies.

And confused this newsgroup with a chat room. And said you can't afford
the book, even though you can read it for free. No matter.

Quoted message said:

I have now remedied the
veggie situation. I've made it through induction, just without veggies, so I
am now looking at phase 2. According to the Atkins web site on phase two I
can have certain fruits. Maybe you should read the book.

Actually, you haven't even started induction yet. Since induction
requires vegetables, and you weren't eating them, you never did
induction. And I'm not doing Atkins, so I don't need to read the Atkins
book.

--
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

Hello,

Food allergies often get the blame when food intolerance is the
problem. Intolerance refers to when the body doesn't properly process
food. That's why doctors stress getting tested by an allergist.

One common condition is lactose intolerance - when the body doesn't
make enough of the enzyme needed to digest milk products. The result is
about the same as food poisoning.

"People have milk allergies, but by far the biggest problem adults have
is lactose intolerance," said Wedner of Washington University.
http://www.epsdrugstore.com/food-allergies.htm

*** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance
in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. ***

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Um, yeah. Fruit is not low-carb. I think the advice to kill yourself
was a bit much, there may be something worthwhile in you we haven't seen
yet. But let's do a rundown of what we DO know about you:

You claim to be on a diet plan you can't spell.
You haven't been eating vegetables, which is one of the requirements of
the plan you claim you're on.
You don't know the difference between a newsgroup and a chat room.
You claim you don't have enough money to buy a book which you can get
for free at the library.
And now you've bought a bunch of fruit, which isn't allowed in the early
stages of the diet you claim you're on.

You're making me laugh and weep for humanity all at the same time.
Don't kill yourself, I need some entertainment.

Oh, I don't know, I've kind of taking a liking to Martin if only because
he started out with some mistaken ideas about Atkins based on the media
(and Lord knows we've ALL been screwed over by media misinformation time
and again). If we hadn't read the book and/or posted and read here for
information, we could EASILY have made the same mistake since all we see
on television ON THE NEWS WE ARE *SUPPOSED* TO TRUST is people frying
bacon and steak topped with butter and sour cream -- to see anyone
bother to mention vegetables in conjunction with Atkins is extremely
rare. I've also seen several postings over the last couple of years
with the diet misspelled as Adkins -- so much so that I've sometimes
wondered if it's some kind of regional thing (particularly in the UK)
that just caught on -- it's annoying, but not uncommon. He posted here
for advice and got slammed for it. Of COURSE he's bristling about that
-- I would be too. Also, as you know, LOTS of people react with anger
to JC, which is exactly what JC WANTS. You may think it's funny for him
to advise people to kill themselves, but I've seen him do it to
OBVIOUSLY emotionally fragile people and I think it's a reprehensible
thing to do. In fact, he usually RESERVES it especially FOR people that
might actually do it (I don't think Martin falls into that category,
though). That goes way beyond [censored] and straight to EVIL in my book.

I recommend that we cut Martin (and most newbies) a little slack. He
got the point and seems to have made some adjustments accordingly.

--
Saffire
205/132/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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