On the Tour of the Hills there were queues at the first few controls and they were very thorough; I would have been Not Pleased if this delay had caused me to lose out on a gold badge. Whereas last year on the Upper Thames you were given a numbered disc to throw into a bucket.
That's one reason the first stage often turns into a race. It can be a considerable advantage to be one of the first arrivals at a control or checkpoint.
The Brimstone this year started to go wrong for me at the first control, which was the Abbots Anne Cafe at 70k. I'd had nothing but half a cup of tea before the start, and lost contact with the lead group when I bonked at 50k. Service was lamentable. Many people asked for their money back and left without their food. I didn't have that option, needing desperately to eat as soon as possible. I was ravenous and it took nearly an hour to get them to serve up beans and scrambled egg on toast. Some people arrived 20 minutes after me, got served, ate, and left while I was still waiting.
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I think as long as the organiser can satisfy himself that you were at the right place it is OK; there is no way anyone will be able to forge one of my stickers.
But how does the sticker prove what time you started?
On the Tour of the Hills there were queues at the first few controls and they were very thorough; I would have been Not Pleased if this delay had caused me to lose out on a gold badge. Whereas last year on the Upper Thames you were given a numbered disc to throw into a bucket.
That's one reason the first stage often turns into a race. It can be a considerable advantage to be one of the first arrivals at a control or checkpoint.
The Brimstone this year started to go wrong for me at the first control, which was the Abbots Anne Cafe at 70k. I'd had nothing but half a cup of tea before the start, and lost contact with the lead group when I bonked at 50k. Service was lamentable. Many people asked for their money back and left without their food. I didn't have that option, needing desperately to eat as soon as possible. I was ravenous and it took nearly an hour to get them to serve up beans and scrambled egg on toast. Some people arrived 20 minutes after me, got served, ate, and left while I was still waiting.
Quoted message said:
I think as long as the organiser can satisfy himself that you were at the right place it is OK; there is no way anyone will be able to forge one of my stickers.
But how does the sticker prove what time you started?
On the Tour of the Hills there were queues at the first few controls and they were very thorough; I would have been Not Pleased if this delay had caused me to lose out on a gold badge. Whereas last year on the Upper Thames you were given a numbered disc to throw into a bucket.
That's one reason the first stage often turns into a race. It can be a considerable advantage to be one of the first arrivals at a control or checkpoint.
The Brimstone this year started to go wrong for me at the first control, which was the Abbots Anne Cafe at 70k. I'd had nothing but half a cup of tea before the start, and lost contact with the lead group when I bonked at 50k. Service was lamentable. Many people asked for their money back and left without their food. I didn't have that option, needing desperately to eat as soon as possible. I was ravenous and it took nearly an hour to get them to serve up beans and scrambled egg on toast. Some people arrived 20 minutes after me, got served, ate, and left while I was still waiting.
Quoted message said:
I think as long as the organiser can satisfy himself that you were at the right place it is OK; there is no way anyone will be able to forge one of my stickers.
But how does the sticker prove what time you started?
No this is for an intermediate control; everyone gets the same start time. I'm pretty sure everyone will arrive in the time band so will just add a time afterwards if I have to but from my experince at caffs it is not necessary.
On the Tour of the Hills there were queues at the first few controls and they were very thorough; I would have been Not Pleased if this delay had caused me to lose out on a gold badge. Whereas last year on the Upper Thames you were given a numbered disc to throw into a bucket.
That's one reason the first stage often turns into a race. It can be a considerable advantage to be one of the first arrivals at a control or checkpoint.
The Brimstone this year started to go wrong for me at the first control, which was the Abbots Anne Cafe at 70k. I'd had nothing but half a cup of tea before the start, and lost contact with the lead group when I bonked at 50k. Service was lamentable. Many people asked for their money back and left without their food. I didn't have that option, needing desperately to eat as soon as possible. I was ravenous and it took nearly an hour to get them to serve up beans and scrambled egg on toast. Some people arrived 20 minutes after me, got served, ate, and left while I was still waiting.
Quoted message said:
I think as long as the organiser can satisfy himself that you were at the right place it is OK; there is no way anyone will be able to forge one of my stickers.
But how does the sticker prove what time you started?
No this is for an intermediate control; everyone gets the same start time. I'm pretty sure everyone will arrive in the time band so will just add a time afterwards if I have to but from my experince at caffs it is not necessary.
I looked in a latin dictionary, which showed "Ow-dax". "Oh-dax" seems to be more common, though.
and MartinM responded:
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yebbut the Romans didn't have bikes so it has to be the French pronunciation. I only ever hear Ow or Or from other riders, but Oh is correct French, although it could still be as in though or as in box.
If French pronunciation were to be used, wouldn't the 'X' at the end be silent? For years I followed my instinct to pronounce it "oh-da" (French having been the only language that I learnt at school), and no-one ever had a clue what I was talking about.
-- Danny Colyer (my reply address is valid but checked infrequently) <URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/> "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine
I looked in a latin dictionary, which showed "Ow-dax". "Oh-dax" seems to be more common, though.
and MartinM responded:
Quoted message said:
yebbut the Romans didn't have bikes so it has to be the French pronunciation. I only ever hear Ow or Or from other riders, but Oh is correct French, although it could still be as in though or as in box.
If French pronunciation were to be used, wouldn't the 'X' at the end be silent? For years I followed my instinct to pronounce it "oh-da" (French having been the only language that I learnt at school), and no-one ever had a clue what I was talking about.
-- Danny Colyer (my reply address is valid but checked infrequently) <URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/> "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine
Whether or not to pronounce the end letter in French words always confuses me. There seem to be no rules (though I guess English is worse).
The X is pronounced in "Aix-en-Provence", which the French pronounce as "aches", so I suppose pronouncing the X in audax is equally possible. The French cyclist I asked about audax didn't have a clue what I was on about, but understood radonneur - I have no idea if it was my [censored] pronunciation though.
Whether or not to pronounce the end letter in French words always confuses me. There seem to be no rules (though I guess English is worse).
The X is pronounced in "Aix-en-Provence", which the French pronounce as "aches", so I suppose pronouncing the X in audax is equally possible. The French cyclist I asked about audax didn't have a clue what I was on about, but understood radonneur - I have no idea if it was my [censored] pronunciation though.
I looked in a latin dictionary, which showed "Ow-dax". "Oh-dax" seems to be more common, though.
and MartinM responded:
Quoted message said:
yebbut the Romans didn't have bikes so it has to be the French pronunciation. I only ever hear Ow or Or from other riders, but Oh is correct French, although it could still be as in though or as in box.
If French pronunciation were to be used, wouldn't the 'X' at the end be silent? For years I followed my instinct to pronounce it "oh-da" (French having been the only language that I learnt at school), and no-one ever had a clue what I was talking about.
Thats because it should have been Aw-doh (or homer does a randonee)
I looked in a latin dictionary, which showed "Ow-dax". "Oh-dax" seems to be more common, though.
and MartinM responded:
Quoted message said:
yebbut the Romans didn't have bikes so it has to be the French pronunciation. I only ever hear Ow or Or from other riders, but Oh is correct French, although it could still be as in though or as in box.
If French pronunciation were to be used, wouldn't the 'X' at the end be silent? For years I followed my instinct to pronounce it "oh-da" (French having been the only language that I learnt at school), and no-one ever had a clue what I was talking about.
If French then the plural would perhaps be Audeux, the pronounciation of which is uncomfortably close to 'ordure', or am I just talking rubbish..
I looked in a latin dictionary, which showed "Ow-dax". "Oh-dax" seems to be more common, though.
and MartinM responded:
Quoted message said:
yebbut the Romans didn't have bikes so it has to be the French pronunciation. I only ever hear Ow or Or from other riders, but Oh is correct French, although it could still be as in though or as in box.
If French pronunciation were to be used, wouldn't the 'X' at the end be silent? For years I followed my instinct to pronounce it "oh-da" (French having been the only language that I learnt at school), and no-one ever had a clue what I was talking about.
If French then the plural would perhaps be Audeux, the pronounciation of which is uncomfortably close to 'ordure', or am I just talking rubbish..
The X is pronounced in "Aix-en-Provence", which the French pronounce as "aches", so I suppose pronouncing the X in audax is equally possible. The French cyclist I asked about audax didn't have a clue what I was on about, but understood radonneur - I have no idea if it was my [censored] pronunciation though.
Just collared the nearest Frenchman. He denies all knowledge of the word, but says it would be pronounced 'or dax' if it were a French word, which it isn't.
The faq at <url:www.audax.uk.net> says audax is "Latin for 'bold', and was first used in the context of endurance sports towards the end of the 19th century." which probably explains all the blank looks from the French. Interestingly the Frog suggested 'audace' (audacity) as the word I was thinking of.
Whatever, back to pronunciation. Anyone here speak good latin?
The X is pronounced in "Aix-en-Provence", which the French pronounce as "aches", so I suppose pronouncing the X in audax is equally possible. The French cyclist I asked about audax didn't have a clue what I was on about, but understood radonneur - I have no idea if it was my [censored] pronunciation though.
Just collared the nearest Frenchman. He denies all knowledge of the word, but says it would be pronounced 'or dax' if it were a French word, which it isn't.
The faq at <url:www.audax.uk.net> says audax is "Latin for 'bold', and was first used in the context of endurance sports towards the end of the 19th century." which probably explains all the blank looks from the French. Interestingly the Frog suggested 'audace' (audacity) as the word I was thinking of.
Whatever, back to pronunciation. Anyone here speak good latin?
The faq at <url:www.audax.uk.net> says audax is "Latin for 'bold', and was first used in the context of endurance sports towards the end of the 19th century." which probably explains all the blank looks from the French.
I think it was an Italian that first invented the rules of audax cycling/running/swimming but Audax UK, whose events are not strictly speaking Audax rides, gets its name from the Audax Club Parisien, which is most certainly French. And I believe it is ACP that organises PBP. so at least some of them ought to have an inkling of what audax means.
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Whatever, back to pronunciation. Anyone here speak good latin?
caesar adsum iam forte, brutus aderat caesar sic in omnibus, brutus sic inat
The X is pronounced in "Aix-en-Provence", which the French pronounce as "aches", so I suppose pronouncing the X in audax is equally possible. The French cyclist I asked about audax didn't have a clue what I was on about, but understood radonneur - I have no idea if it was my [censored] pronunciation though.
Just collared the nearest Frenchman. He denies all knowledge of the word, but says it would be pronounced 'or dax' if it were a French word, which it isn't.
The faq at <url:www.audax.uk.net> says audax is "Latin for 'bold', and was first used in the context of endurance sports towards the end of the 19th century." which probably explains all the blank looks from the French. Interestingly the Frog suggested 'audace' (audacity) as the word I was thinking of.
Whatever, back to pronunciation. Anyone here speak good latin?
you don't speak latin, you learn and recite it ;-). I have grade C GCE, and my money is on Ow, but Oh if French or Or if English.
