Study: A-D-H-D drugs stunt growth of children who take them

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From: Ilena Rose [email hidden]
Date: 4/5/2004 8:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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Study: A-D-H-D drugs stunt growth of children who take them

this is OLD news....

and not a huge problem either (pun intended)...

some kids are shorter stature....

in my estimation better than the kid failing in school and screwing up their
academic lives..

the "newer" ADHD meds have much less of a problem (spoken from family
experience)
hawki.....

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Subject: Study: A-D-H-D drugs stunt growth of children who take them
From: Ilena Rose [email hidden]
Date: 4/5/2004 7:15 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Study: A-D-H-D drugs stunt growth of children who take them

Those who push drugs on kids dismiss all studies.

Jan

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Study: A-D-H-D drugs stunt growth of children who take them

Chicago-AP -- A study says children who have attention deficit
disorder may stunt their growth by taking drugs such as Ritalin.

Researchers watched a group of kids for two years and discovered that
those who were taking Ritalin and similar drugs grew half an inch less
than the others who weren't medicated. They also gained less weight.

The study did not look at whether the growth effects are permanent.

The American Academy of Pediatrics says other research indicates the
drugs don't cut a person's height in the long run.

Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder is the most common
neurological disorder in childhood. It affects between four and 12
percent of school-age kids in the U-S.

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Subject: Study: A-D-H-D drugs stunt growth of children who take them
From: Ilena Rose [email hidden]
Date: 4/5/2004 7:15 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Study: A-D-H-D drugs stunt growth of children who take them

Chicago-AP -- A study says children who have attention deficit
disorder may stunt their growth by taking drugs such as Ritalin.

Researchers watched a group of kids for two years and discovered that
those who were taking Ritalin and similar drugs grew half an inch less
than the others who weren't medicated. They also gained less weight.

The study did not look at whether the growth effects are permanent.

The American Academy of Pediatrics says other research indicates the
drugs don't cut a person's height in the long run.

Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder is the most common
neurological disorder in childhood. It affects between four and 12
percent of school-age kids in the U-S.

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It is a pity the US drugs kids, before their brains are developed.

I hardly think any of the below is G0d's will.

http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/03/08/25.html

Rampant Misdiagnosis

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/living/health/7852459.htm

http://groups.msn.com/psychbusters

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http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/cngrtest/ct051600.htm

http://www.add-adhd.org/ritalin.html

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,949150,00.html

http://www.cultureshocktv.com/internews/2002/aug27200248932.shtml

http://www.familyeducation.com/article/0,1120,23-10318-0-2,00.html

http://www.drug-rehabs.org/faqs/FAQ-ritalin.php

http://i2i.org/article.aspx?ID=325

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/31/health/main326478.shtml

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0205/p14s01-stss.html

http://www.healthysource.com/ritalin.html

http://borntoexplore.org/unschool/ritalin.htm

http://www.cchr.org/art/eng/page48.htm

Jan

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Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder is the most common
neurological disorder in childhood. It affects between four and 12
percent of school-age kids in the U-S.

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It is a pity the US drugs kids, before their brains are developed.

I'm not sure if it is as much that the brain is not developed yet,
or if it is more pitiful the increasing "way" that some kids brains
'are or are not wired' to developed. It is a mystery.

I recently met someone with 22 yrs old daughter (we'll call Jane) who has
been a 'family challenge' since childhood. As a young teen Jane was put on
Ritalin. The family saw a positive change. Jane was able to focus on one
thing for a longer period of time and became more thorough in her
schoolwork, personal appearance, cleanliness and tidiness. Nothing
overboard, but up to the basic level of an 'average' child. It was short
lived however, when a couple months later Jane declared she was a naturalist
and would not take medication. The family did not press her. Jane went on
to live in a bedroom which was a foot deep with trash, hanging out with the
black lipstick disruptive crowd, got pregnant, drop out of school.

Jane took Ritalin long enough to get her GED, then went right back to the
'I'm a naturalist' routine and stopped taking it. The baby girl failed to
thrive and at two years old was the size of a 12 month baby. When the baby
messed her pants she wouldn't get changed for long periods of time. Jane
would 'forget' to bring a diaper bag. For a devoted 'naturalist', Jane
'naturally' lived in 'dust & dirt' and disorganized chaos.

Jane could not hold a job. Everything was a horrible stressful effort for
her, to the point of heavy, heavy armpit sweat when faced with performing
simple tasks for her employer. For instance, when asked to pick up all the
items in a certain area Jane would make a quick look around and come back
with a couple, overlooking a multitude of 'details'. As her daughter grew
and started to pick up her toys and put them away, her mother continued to
live in squalor of messes.

Jane went on welfare, but quit her job and welfare was discontinued. She
didn't go back to reapply for welfare because of the expectation that she
would have to look for a job. Jane moved back in with her parents who paid
all her bills....and by this time had a male companion with her who was
equally deficient to hold down a job. The happy couple talked of a
'natural' wedding out in the woods by torchlight, but neither had a job.
The male companion's expectation of her parents was to foot all of his
bills, as they did for Jane. This lead the parents to invite the male
companion to leave their home and the daughter 'naturally' followed,
dragging the baby along.

Jane looked into homeless shelters, but they had an expectation that she
would be up at a certain time and perform chores, and that was too much for
her to confront. Dear God, it was just like home!

Jane is the type of kid that really, really, really NEEDED to be put on
Ritalin and be kept on it. Our society has seen more kids like this who
were not treated and live tortured lives trying to fit in to the expected
'norm' when their minds can't stay on top of simple tasks.

I used to hear that Ritalin turned kids into drug addicts. I have seen drug
addicted adults who had been on Ritalin as a kid. Their minds don't stay on
top of simple tasks and they don't have great employment records.

I worked with a new employee (male) at Intel who was very bright, but a bit
'weird and disruptive at times. At a training meeting one day he became
restless and fidgety before he just walked off and went back to his cube. I
was shocked and p/o'd. He definitely was NOT a TEAM PLAYER! When I calmed
down and spoke with him later he told me he'd gone off his Ritalin and
described all the areas of his life that were in chaos because of it. He
had not managed his money well and had put other things in a higher priority
than his medication. And yes, he was extremely afraid of losing his job.
Once he got back on his medication he was fun to work with, much more
relaxed and put out detailed reports. Of course the other employees didn't
get too close to him as a person for fear he's get weird again. He was very
bright and managed to get good positions within the company.

I guess my question is....why? Why does this happen? Is it passed in
genes? Were the kids parents drug users at one time? Have statistics
verified an increase in the numbers of kids over the last 50 years? If so,
why the increase? Why do people go off of the medication when they know the
difference it makes?

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Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder is the most common
neurological disorder in childhood. It affects between four and 12
percent of school-age kids in the U-S.

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It is a pity the US drugs kids, before their brains are developed.

I'm not sure if it is as much that the brain is not developed yet,
or if it is more pitiful the increasing "way" that some kids brains
'are or are not wired' to developed. It is a mystery.

I recently met someone with 22 yrs old daughter (we'll call Jane) who has
been a 'family challenge' since childhood. As a young teen Jane was put

on

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Ritalin. The family saw a positive change. Jane was able to focus on one
thing for a longer period of time and became more thorough in her
schoolwork, personal appearance, cleanliness and tidiness. Nothing
overboard, but up to the basic level of an 'average' child. It was short
lived however, when a couple months later Jane declared she was a

naturalist

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and would not take medication. The family did not press her. Jane went

on

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to live in a bedroom which was a foot deep with trash, hanging out with

the

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black lipstick disruptive crowd, got pregnant, drop out of school.

Jane took Ritalin long enough to get her GED, then went right back to the
'I'm a naturalist' routine and stopped taking it. The baby girl failed to
thrive and at two years old was the size of a 12 month baby. When the

baby

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messed her pants she wouldn't get changed for long periods of time. Jane
would 'forget' to bring a diaper bag. For a devoted 'naturalist', Jane
'naturally' lived in 'dust & dirt' and disorganized chaos.

Jane could not hold a job. Everything was a horrible stressful effort for
her, to the point of heavy, heavy armpit sweat when faced with performing
simple tasks for her employer. For instance, when asked to pick up all

the

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items in a certain area Jane would make a quick look around and come back
with a couple, overlooking a multitude of 'details'. As her daughter grew
and started to pick up her toys and put them away, her mother continued to
live in squalor of messes.

Jane went on welfare, but quit her job and welfare was discontinued. She
didn't go back to reapply for welfare because of the expectation that she
would have to look for a job. Jane moved back in with her parents who

paid

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all her bills....and by this time had a male companion with her who was
equally deficient to hold down a job. The happy couple talked of a
'natural' wedding out in the woods by torchlight, but neither had a job.
The male companion's expectation of her parents was to foot all of his
bills, as they did for Jane. This lead the parents to invite the male
companion to leave their home and the daughter 'naturally' followed,
dragging the baby along.

Jane looked into homeless shelters, but they had an expectation that she
would be up at a certain time and perform chores, and that was too much

for

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her to confront. Dear God, it was just like home!

Jane is the type of kid that really, really, really NEEDED to be put on
Ritalin and be kept on it. Our society has seen more kids like this who
were not treated and live tortured lives trying to fit in to the expected
'norm' when their minds can't stay on top of simple tasks.

I used to hear that Ritalin turned kids into drug addicts. I have seen

drug

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addicted adults who had been on Ritalin as a kid. Their minds don't stay

on

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top of simple tasks and they don't have great employment records.

I worked with a new employee (male) at Intel who was very bright, but a

bit

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'weird and disruptive at times. At a training meeting one day he became
restless and fidgety before he just walked off and went back to his cube.

I

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was shocked and p/o'd. He definitely was NOT a TEAM PLAYER! When I

calmed

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down and spoke with him later he told me he'd gone off his Ritalin and
described all the areas of his life that were in chaos because of it. He
had not managed his money well and had put other things in a higher

priority

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than his medication. And yes, he was extremely afraid of losing his job.
Once he got back on his medication he was fun to work with, much more
relaxed and put out detailed reports. Of course the other employees

didn't

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get too close to him as a person for fear he's get weird again. He was

very

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bright and managed to get good positions within the company.

I guess my question is....why? Why does this happen? Is it passed in
genes?

There is a lot of genetic evidence and the mountain is growing.

Were the kids parents drug users at one time? Have statistics

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verified an increase in the numbers of kids over the last 50 years? If

so,

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why the increase? Why do people go off of the medication when they know

the

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difference it makes?

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I guess my question is....why? Why does this happen? Is it passed in
genes?

There is a lot of genetic evidence and the mountain is growing.

And that people, is the reason for Mark's aberrations, a genetic mutation.

Glad we've got that one solved.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/conspiracy.htm

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I guess my question is....why? Why does this happen? Is it passed in
genes?

There is a lot of genetic evidence and the mountain is growing.

And that people, is the reason for Mark's aberrations, a genetic mutation.

Hi, Bigot!

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Glad we've got that one solved.

You could not solve 2+2.

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Study: A-D-H-D drugs stunt growth of children who take them

Actually, the study, in conjection with other studies, indicate that growth
is delayed (as in they make up their height later).

Jeff

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From: "Jeff" [email hidden]
Date: 4/6/2004 5:10 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Study: A-D-H-D drugs stunt growth of children who take them

Actually, the study, in conjection with other studies, indicate that growth
is delayed (as in they make up their height later).

Jeff

Actually, note the word *may*

http://www.healthday.com/view.cfm?id=518225

Swanson also noted that many questions remain unanswered. For example,
researchers don't know if children on ADHD medications will have a growth
rebound later.

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Children on medication
also grew slightly less than their non-medicated peers.

He said
those assigned to medication grew about a centimeter less per year than those
not on medication.

Jan

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Study: A-D-H-D drugs stunt growth of children who take them

Actually, the study, in conjection with other studies, indicate that

growth

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is delayed (as in they make up their height later).

Jeff

Actually, note the word *may*

Every study and report on Pubmed says that they do. There is NO evidence
that they do not. Of course, you do not want to read the facts and rely on a
news article.

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http://www.healthday.com/view.cfm?id=518225

Swanson also noted that many questions remain unanswered. For example,
researchers don't know if children on ADHD medications will have a growth
rebound later.

See above. There is NO evidence that they do not.

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Children on medication
also grew slightly less than their non-medicated peers.

According to one study, the disorder, an dnot the medication, is the cause
of a different growth curve.

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He said
those assigned to medication grew about a centimeter less per year than

those

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not on medication.

And according to all of thepublished studies, reached their predicted
height.