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From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Date: 15 Mar 2004 03:12:00 GMT
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Subject: Re: The *gang* of this ng.
Message-ID: <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:Subject: Re: Claiming religion for credibility
From: [email hidden]
Date: 3/14/2004 5:45 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>"Mark Probert-March 14, 2004" <Mark [email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
What I meant was that Jan, et al, raise my Judiasm in a manner to imply
that because I am a Jew, and a vociferous one at that, I cannot be
believed, etc. etc. etc. According to her, and her sicko-phants, it is
the jews and atheists who are the liars.I misunderstood.
Mark's behavior here is well known, as well as other newsgroups.
The list of Jews and atheists HERE who have not only continaully lied and
deceived, but are here to harass. However it isn't limiited to them, it's
just
the majority HERE are either Jews or atheists.
Andrew Kingoff
Andrew Langer
Rich Andrews
Rich Shewmaker
Peter Bowditch
Peter Moran
Mark Probert
Mark Thorson
Mark MD
Orac
Tid Nidiffer aka Nanaweedkiller
Richard H Jacobson
Doug?
WB
Joel Eichen
David Wright
Michele
Hawki
carabelli
Eric
Kim (the latest motor mouth who has posted well over 70 posts in the last
few
days, with claims and lies she had never backed up, then lied again and said
she had).
Possibly a few not listed here.
The facts are these people are here to trash any and all who have ever
claimed
to use alternative medicine with success, while overlooking the fraud of
conventional and organized medicine and dentistry. The majority of posts
made
by some on this list are purely to trash personally, they lie for each other
and overlook their very own weaknesses, and falsely accusing others of same.
These are the facts, as can be seen in the archives.
Jan
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From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Date: 08 Mar 2004 21:05:52 GMT
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Subject: Re: Example of Mark Thorson LIES and HATE
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Quoted message said:Subject: Re: UPDATE: Even More Examples of Jan's Hatred and Bigotry
From: "rb" [email hidden]
Date: 3/7/2004 4:46 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>"Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
"Mark Thorson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:Here are additional examples of Jan's hatred and bigotry,
that she made since the previous collections I put together
in early February. The quotations are from her postings
to misc.health.alternative. I put line breaks between
comments made in different postings, and in some cases
removed line breaks when lines appeared together in the
same posting. In some cases I inserted or removed line
breaks to avoid line wrapping. I did not, however,
change or remove parts of any sentences (as Jan often does,
to change their meaning). These are all complete, original
statements made by Jan.------- begin examples of Jan's hatred and bigotry -------
I think you [censored] experience has screwed up your brain.
The ones of the *gang* who have proclaimed they are Jewish,
have indeed lied, insulted and they are filled with hate.Indeed, the Jews and atheists on this ng have lied over
and over, as well as posting nasty hateful lying websites
trying to personally trash. That is the facts.There is an EXCELLENT example of one hate filled jew
(on this ng).To say the JewS rejected Christ, is NOT anti-semitism,,,
IT IS THE TRUTH.
To say Satan is the king of all liars, and leads those
who practice lying is NOT anti-semitism,,,IT IS THE TRUTH.
To say the Jew on this ng are liars, is NOT anti-semtisim, ,,,
IT IS THE TRUTH AND HAS BEEN PROVEN WITH THEIR OWN WORDS.We have seen every single Jew here lie, but it isn't limited
to them.
==============================
I'm not Jewish and yet find this woman's anti Jewish statements very>
offensive.But Kim dear, would you find these statement's to be so offensive if you
knew them to be the truth, which they are!??? Even Ilena whom is a Jew
herself has said so on many occasions and also gives Jan the highest
recommendation for not having a trace of anti-semitism in her whole body!
First of all, Mark Thorson is a liar, that is clear, he still says he isn't
which is another lie. This thread is an example of Mark's further behavior.
The truth brings unrest to the guilty.
These are not examples of hatred or bigotry, in fact every one of them is
the
truth.
Actually I don't know one single Jew in real life, I sure can't tell by
looking
and it matters not. We have to make judgments in life, I judge people by
what
comes out of thier mouth, how they treat others, and how honest they are.
Those who have stated they are Jews have done EXACTLY what I have stated.
Quoted message said:I think you [censored] experience has screwed up your brain.
Yes. Based on these totally absurd words from Eric to belittle. I have no
idea
if he is a Jew, nor do I care.
*I think the answer is really that the people Toby describes are simply
looking for rituals to perform rather than an actual treatment. I suspect
they've got unmet spiritual or religious needs and they're trying to meet
them through a ritualization of health matters. Or they're simply working
from the conviction that doing something, anything is always better than
doing nothing.*
==
Quoted message said:The ones of the *gang* who have proclaimed they are Jewish,
have indeed lied, insulted and they are filled with hate.
That is the truth. Which includes:
Mark Probert
Andy Langer
Andrew Kingoff
Richard H Jacobson (which I learned was a Jew just last week)
Quoted message said:Indeed, the Jews and atheists on this ng have lied over and over, as well
as
posting nasty hateful lying websites
Quoted message said:trying to personally trash. That is the facts.
http://nazigirl.jandrew.wasarrested.com/S-IN/Bloomington/prostitute/F
http://ilena.rose.wasarrested.com/San+Jose/crack/F
Quoted message said:There is an EXCELLENT example of one hate filled jew
(on this ng).
Mark didn't post it, not does he care if it is an EXCELLENT example.
Here it is again:
Subject: Are these Jan's WMD????
Quoted message said:From: "Mark Probert-February 21, 2004" [email hidden]
Date: 2/23/2004 6:39 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Subject: Re: What The Bible Teaches About Forgivness.
From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
Date: 2/21/2004 12:53 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:<[email hidden]
u
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Enough, Jan. I forgive you. Everything.Peter Moran
God Bless You, and I forgive you, now go no more and ****make no claims
that
aren't
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:truthful and I will do the same.****
Is Jan using WMD's???
*W*ords of *M*ass *D*eception!
There is an EXCELLENT example of one hate filled jew (on this ng).
He is making light of forgiveness.
Jan
Quoted message said:To say the JewS rejected Christ, is NOT anti-semitism,,,
IT IS THE TRUTH.
Quoted message said:To say Satan is the king of all liars, and leads those
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:who practice lying is NOT anti-semitism,,,
IT IS THE TRUTH.
Quoted message said:To say the Jew on this ng are liars, is NOT anti-semtisim, ,,,
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:
IT IS THE TRUTH AND HAS BEEN PROVEN WITH THEIR OWN WORDS.
Quoted message said:We have seen every single Jew here lie, but it isn't limited
Quoted message said:to them.
That should have read with the except of IIena.
And,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,IT IS THE TRUTH!!!
Quoted message said:I'm not Jewish and yet find this woman's anti Jewish statements very>
offensive.
Kim is new here, she has no idea of those who are Jews and atheist and how
they
have lied and how they are filled with hate. Furthermore, she thanked Rich
for
his information, even though I posted his history pattern. Easy to see where
she is coming from.
It is pretty much the norm for liars to hate those that prove their lies and
stand for truth.
We just saw another huge lie from atheist ,Peter Bowditch.
We also know how the *gang* sticks together.
It is very clear.
Quoted message said:I don't give a damn if Peter lied to you, this newsgroup, his mother, or
the
pope.
Quoted message said:Rich Shewmaker Ka Ching
Jan
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From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Date: 09 Mar 2004 06:22:25 GMT
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Subject: Re: Death By Medicine
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From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Date: 10 Mar 2004 00:54:44 GMT
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Subject: Re: Warning: MHA = acahf hangout
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Quoted message said:Subject: Warning: MHA = acahf hangout
From: [email hidden]
Date: 3/8/2004 8:44 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>To any new readers or others who may not be aware of this, to you who are
genuinely interested in alt health, please note: Anything that you may post
to mha is being carefully noted and monitored by your "friendly" acahf rep.Stop and think, before you post even one word!
This is NO open discussion group, this is a place where acahf vultures
feed.
Correct. Now those vultures will follow this post, one by one. Some will
make
numerous posts. Most all are either Jews or atheists.
Of course Peter Bowditch is a known and repeated liar, who has NO medical
qualifications but targets those *outside* organized medicine who are
successful and he has the gall to squawk about their credentials, and LIE
about
them.
He is an advisor to a quackery committee, but has NO medical qualifications
to
be an advisor. He does have the *abilities* they are looking for.
Conduct Witch hunts
A good liar
An atheist
Filled with hate
Protect EGO
Belittler
Twisting
(for starters)
However these vultures don't give a damn, if Peter lies to this ng, his
mother
or the pope.
The reputation of the NACHF is well known, as is their aim.
They are failing. Alternative medicine just keeps growing.
These vultures are filled with hate, as they have a need to constantly be
belittling.
This is the work of Satan.
Because you have been truthful, they will now attack you personally.
The truth brings unrest to the guilty.
Jan
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From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Date: 09 Mar 2004 06:22:25 GMT
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Subject: Re: Death By Medicine
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Quoted message said:Subject: Re: Death By Medicine
From: "Kim" [email hidden]
Date: 3/8/2004 9:11 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>"Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark [email hidden]> wrote
in message news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Jan is advocating death.
Thanks for reposting this. It comes out of the mouth of a hate filled person
who just happens to be a Jew!
Now want to hear WHO tells lies here???????????
Quoted message said:Unless someone has tests done and it shows they are infested w/parasites I
can't see the benefit of a cleanse.
Then don't do one. OMMV.
Jan
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From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Date: 09 Mar 2004 04:23:33 GMT
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Subject: Re: Richard H Jacobson Out Of Control
Message-ID: <[email hidden]>
Rich can't stand it because I have him killfilled, so he has Kim reposting
his
posts. He is truly obsessed and is getting worse.
What he posts is garbage and shows his complete hatred for me.
I will continue to pray that he gets the help he so desperately needs.
Kim is either a plant (which shows his desperation) or there is much
e-mailing
between the two.
Pathetic!
Quoted message said:Subject: Re: Anti-Semite Jan Drew keeps lists of all Jews on mha
From: "Kim" [email hidden]
Date: 3/8/2004 6:04 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>
<snip>
Quoted message said:Someone taught her to hate them. Perhaps her religion....
Complete hogwash.
I hate no one.
The hatred shown here just happens to come from those who are Jews and
atheists.
Jan