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  1. NYC XYZ said:

    That's Oh My Gonads!

    Quoted message said:

    EXCERPTS

    A raft of new studies suggest that cyclists, particularly men, should
    be careful which bicycle seats they choose.

    ...

    Some saddle designs are more damaging than others, scientists say. But
    even so-called ergonomic seats, to protect the sex organs, can be
    harmful, the research finds. The dozen or so studies, from
    peer-reviewed journals, are summarized in three articles in
    September's Journal of Sexual Medicine.

    In a bluntly worded editorial with the articles, Dr. Steven Schrader,
    a reproductive health expert who studies cycling at the National
    Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, said he believed that it
    was no longer a question of "whether or not bicycle riding on a saddle
    causes erectile dysfunction."

    ...


    If that article were true, the Netherlands would be empty!

  2. Quoted message said:

    If that article were true, the Netherlands would be empty!

    Or there are some non-cyclists who are really, really busy ;-).

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    legitimate replies.

  3. Victor Kan said:
    Quoted message said:

    If that article were true, the Netherlands would be empty!

    Or there are some non-cyclists who are really, really busy ;-).

    --
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    legitimate replies.

    If cycling makes a man impotent.....it has to be from the tight spandex
    on his family jewels. We all know that fertility specialists advise
    men to wear loose fitting clothes when trying to impregnant the Mrs.
    ;-) After our third "quickly conceived" child, my husband starting
    wearing super spandex underwear. ;-) ONLY KIDDING!!!!!!

    Now that menopause has given me a natural birth control, Life is grand.
    I just can't figure out why women have that biological ticking clock,
    and men can have kids until their 80. Whats up with that? Is it an
    encouragment to get rid of the old bag and find a new and younger model
    who can still reproduce efficiently?

    My son said he can wait until he is forty to get married, all he has to
    do is marry a young woman. I wanted to smack him. He said, hey, I'm
    not ticking.

    Maggie

  4. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Whats up with that? Is it an


    encouragment to get rid of the old bag and find a new and younger model

    who can still reproduce efficiently? <<

    Men just get better, women get old. Youth and nubility give a woman
    value. Nature designed man to maintain a number of women and as they
    age they are to become advisors to the younger wives who will service
    the man's needs.

  5. Maggie said:

    My son said he can wait until he is forty to get married, all he has to
    do is marry a young woman. I wanted to smack him. He said, hey, I'm
    not ticking.

    Yeah, that way he is trying to put his kids through college and start
    his retirement at the same time!

    I had the good fortune to have an uncle who was a bit younger than me.
    One of the biggest differences between us was the amount of discipline
    we received. Grandma and Grandpa (his parents, my grandparets) were
    just too tired to deal with a teenager in their 50s. While I was making
    A's in school, he was making D's. It wasn't that he was dumb - he just
    didn't have the discipline to get his work done.

    The Navy kicked him in the rump and he was top of his class through
    every specialty school thereafter. He even told me that his only
    problem was a lack of discipline.

    I think a lot of the youth problems we are facing these days are caused
    by absentee/too tired to care parents. I think its a direct result of
    having kids later in life. Really, how many older parents out there
    have the energy to haul their kids around in a bicycle trailer after
    coming home from a long day at work? Most of them are just old and
    tired and want to sit in front of the tv every noght....

    -Buck

  6. Buck said:

    I think a lot of the youth problems we are facing these days are caused
    by absentee/too tired to care parents. I think its a direct result of
    having kids later in life. Really, how many older parents out there
    have the energy to haul their kids around in a bicycle trailer after
    coming home from a long day at work? > -Buck

    I'm not advocating having children late in life. I am 50 plus a couple
    and my kids are grown and on their own....that makes me happy. And I
    will be a young grandmother. Starting a family in your forties is
    beyond my comprehension. I keep thinking if I started a family when I
    was 40...I would have kids who were going into their pre teen
    years....at my age that is scary. I was young when my kids were
    teenager....I really don't think I could raise teenagers in my fifties.
    I am glad they are grown. I am glad I will be young enough for my
    grandchildren. I am also glad I never had people asking me if my kids
    were my grandchildren. My son figures he can be older and his wife
    will be young and full of energy. ;-) He said as long as they are
    both not in their forties....it will be fine.

    Maggie

  7. Buck said:

    I think a lot of the youth problems we are facing these days are caused
    by absentee/too tired to care parents. I think its a direct result of
    having kids later in life. Really, how many older parents out there
    have the energy to haul their kids around in a bicycle trailer after
    coming home from a long day at work? Most of them are just old and
    tired and want to sit in front of the tv every noght....

    The tiredness, has a lot to do with eating and activity. For example,
    look at the typical American eatting pattern. Very light breakfast,
    probably coffee, a light lunch probably something off the "coffee
    truck", so it's highly processed. Then a giant, high fat, high carb
    meal in the evening, followed by copious amounts of inactivity. It
    takes your pancreas a long time to process all those carbs (sugars),
    which is why, it's often recommended for Type 2 diabetics with high
    sugar to go for a walk to bring it down, rather then to pop an extra
    pill. They often feel very tired when they have high sugar.

    The time for high carbs is the morning, when you have stuff to do, like
    ride your bike to work, or walk to transit, actually the carbs +
    activity will burn off much of the simple sugars and process the carbs,
    to give you energy. Actually what gives you energy from activity is
    that it gets the blood pumping, so those carbs go into muscle fuel
    rather then into storage as fat. Muscles love converting fuel into
    activity.

    This is why, you can have a good hearty breakfast on a Saturday morning,
    go for a 20 mile bike ride, come home, and then have enough energy to
    tackle cleaning the garage. Back to eating, follow this up with a
    moderate, from home lunch, where you can balance out what your eating
    with what you need to eat. Follow this up with a light supper, if your
    planning on spending the evening in front of the box.

    W

  8. The Wogster said:
    Buck said:

    I think a lot of the youth problems we are facing these days are caused
    by absentee/too tired to care parents. I think its a direct result of
    having kids later in life. Really, how many older parents out there
    have the energy to haul their kids around in a bicycle trailer after
    coming home from a long day at work? Most of them are just old and
    tired and want to sit in front of the tv every noght....

    The tiredness, has a lot to do with eating and activity. For example,
    look at the typical American eatting pattern.

    What does that have to do with raising kids when your in your twenties
    and raising them when you are in your forties. Or the emotional strain
    of handling teenagers when you are older and when you are younger. I
    think I have alot of energy for a woman in her fifties..I love walking,
    riding, and going out..but I really don't think I could be a parent to
    three teenagers right now. In fact I think I would shoot myself. My
    kids were teenagers when I was in my late thirties and very early
    forties. I had the stamina to deal with them physically and
    emotionally. The teenage years can be rough....and if you have an out
    of control 17 year old and you are 60.....more power to you. I don't
    think I could handle it. At 60, I want some peace of mind and a
    grandchild. Not a kid in High School. I think you missed the point of
    that last post. It was about raising pre teens or teenagers when you
    should be thinking of retirement and grandchild....plus having the
    freedom to do all you dreamed of doing, but couldn't because the kids
    always came first. (Well they did with me). I love Rod Stewart, but I
    am beginning to think he is an [censored] with all these young wives and
    new babies. Enough is enough. He is past sixty. His wives are younger
    than his kids from his younger days. It gets ridiculous after awhile.
    Now Donald Trump's bride is pregnant. Well I guess the kid will be a
    millionaire so who cares if his father is an old fart and has bad hair.
    Maggie

  9. Buck said:

    I think a lot of the youth problems we are facing these days are caused
    by absentee/too tired to care parents. I think its a direct result of
    having kids later in life. Really, how many older parents out there
    have the energy to haul their kids around in a bicycle trailer after
    coming home from a long day at work? Most of them are just old and
    tired and want to sit in front of the tv every noght....

    If people in their fifties are so tired and worn out, how come I
    regularly see people in their 50s averaging 17-19 mph on 40 mile
    non-stop group rides? How come I have known many hikers well over 50
    who could do a 16 mile dayhike with 5,000 feet elevation gain without
    any problems whatsoever?

    I remember when I did a 50 mile nonstop group hike when I was in my
    thirties; me and my other young friends finished 3 hours behind some
    people in their sixties and seventies.

    I remember another hike where a guy in his 80s left two guys in their
    30s and 40s in the dust.

    Andy

  10. Maggie said:
    The Wogster said:
    Buck said:

    I think a lot of the youth problems we are facing these days are caused
    by absentee/too tired to care parents. I think its a direct result of
    having kids later in life. Really, how many older parents out there
    have the energy to haul their kids around in a bicycle trailer after
    coming home from a long day at work? Most of them are just old and
    tired and want to sit in front of the tv every noght....

    The tiredness, has a lot to do with eating and activity. For example,
    look at the typical American eatting pattern.

    What does that have to do with raising kids when your in your twenties
    and raising them when you are in your forties. Or the emotional strain
    of handling teenagers when you are older and when you are younger. I
    think I have alot of energy for a woman in her fifties..I love walking,
    riding, and going out..but I really don't think I could be a parent to
    three teenagers right now. In fact I think I would shoot myself. My
    kids were teenagers when I was in my late thirties and very early
    forties. I had the stamina to deal with them physically and
    emotionally. The teenage years can be rough....and if you have an out
    of control 17 year old and you are 60.....more power to you. I don't
    think I could handle it. At 60, I want some peace of mind and a
    grandchild. Not a kid in High School. I think you missed the point of
    that last post. It was about raising pre teens or teenagers when you
    should be thinking of retirement and grandchild....plus having the
    freedom to do all you dreamed of doing, but couldn't because the kids
    always came first. (Well they did with me). I love Rod Stewart, but I
    am beginning to think he is an [censored] with all these young wives and
    new babies. Enough is enough. He is past sixty. His wives are younger
    than his kids from his younger days. It gets ridiculous after awhile.
    Now Donald Trump's bride is pregnant. Well I guess the kid will be a
    millionaire so who cares if his father is an old fart and has bad hair.

    Buck said that too many parents were to tired, that tiredness often
    comes from sitting in front of the idiot box, trying to digest a heavy
    meal, when they should be out, doing things, especially family things.
    My parents were older, dad was 50 the year I was born, and mom was 38.
    Dad is no longer with us, mom just got bionic knees, my father in law
    just turned 70, he is older then my mom who is 82!

    W

  11. Andy said:


    I remember another hike where a guy in his 80s left two guys in their
    30s and 40s in the dust.

    Andy

    How did this go from raising kids at an older age to riding a bike at
    an older age. Buck answered the raising kids question. Not am I still
    mobile after 40 or do I need a wheelchair.

    Maggie

  12. The Wogster said:

    Buck said that too many parents were to tired, that tiredness often
    comes from sitting in front of the idiot box, trying to digest a heavy
    meal, when they should be out, doing things, especially family things.
    My parents were older, dad was 50 the year I was born, and mom was 38.
    Dad is no longer with us, mom just got bionic knees, my father in law
    just turned 70, he is older then my mom who is 82!

    W

    How old are you? I am in my fifties and my Mom is 80. My Father is 84.
    They are still going strong..they have grown grandchilden, they
    watched three of them get married and now have 4 great grandchildren.
    They have been able to see many generations. Thats a good thing in my
    opinion.
    I am hoping for the same....I have a shot, if all goes well considering
    my age. I don't remember being tired raising my kids, but I sure as
    heck think I would be tired if I was doing it now. I really do. Which
    has nothing to do with eating or TV.
    Maggie.

  13. Buck said:

    I think a lot of the youth problems we are facing these days are caused
    by absentee/too tired to care parents. I think its a direct result of
    having kids later in life. Really, how many older parents out there
    have the energy to haul their kids around in a bicycle trailer after
    coming home from a long day at work? Most of them are just old and
    tired and want to sit in front of the tv every noght....

    Yeah, cause having to work 80+ hours a week to support a family isn't
    contributing to parents being tired.

    Jasper

  14. On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:02:56 -0400, The Wogster <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Buck said that too many parents were to tired, that tiredness often
    comes from sitting in front of the idiot box, trying to digest a heavy
    meal, when they should be out, doing things, especially family things.
    My parents were older, dad was 50 the year I was born, and mom was 38.
    Dad is no longer with us, mom just got bionic knees, my father in law
    just turned 70, he is older then my mom who is 82!

    I see you failed arithmetic.

    70 !> 82.

    Jasper

  15. Maggie said:
    Quoted message said:

    the year I was born ... mom was 38.
    ...my mom who is 82!

    Quoted message said:

    How old are you?

    Google knows all:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=82+-+38

    RFM

  16. Andy said:
    Buck said:

    I think a lot of the youth problems we are facing these days are caused
    by absentee/too tired to care parents. I think its a direct result of
    having kids later in life. Really, how many older parents out there
    have the energy to haul their kids around in a bicycle trailer after
    coming home from a long day at work? Most of them are just old and
    tired and want to sit in front of the tv every noght....

    If people in their fifties are so tired and worn out, how come I
    regularly see people in their 50s averaging 17-19 mph on 40 mile
    non-stop group rides? How come I have known many hikers well over 50
    who could do a 16 mile dayhike with 5,000 feet elevation gain without
    any problems whatsoever?

    I remember when I did a 50 mile nonstop group hike when I was in my
    thirties; me and my other young friends finished 3 hours behind some
    people in their sixties and seventies.

    I remember another hike where a guy in his 80s left two guys in their
    30s and 40s in the dust.

    And how many of these would you call "typical" or "average" Americans?
    I can say that in my area, I have seen a grand total of ONE person on a
    bike besides my local university affiliates. And of them, only ONE was
    commuting by bike besides me.

    I'll admit it, we have cush jobs. We sit in front of computers or stand
    in front of classes. My brain is tired at the end of the day, but I'm
    ready and willing to hop on a bike and ride home.

    My grandparents were the typical parents - grandpa parked in his easy
    chair every evening after dinner and usually fell asleep there. Grandma
    would cook, then park on the couch (and usually fell asleep there too).
    I lived with them for a short while as a teenager. I got know their
    habits pretty well. I was also quite jealous of the freedoms my uncle
    had. He usually just did whatever he wanted to. If they said no, he
    just waited until they fell asleep....

    And this was the typical pattern among my friends who had older
    parents.

    -Buck

  17. Jasper Janssen said:
    Buck said:

    I think a lot of the youth problems we are facing these days are caused
    by absentee/too tired to care parents. I think its a direct result of
    having kids later in life. Really, how many older parents out there
    have the energy to haul their kids around in a bicycle trailer after
    coming home from a long day at work? Most of them are just old and
    tired and want to sit in front of the tv every noght....

    Yeah, cause having to work 80+ hours a week to support a family isn't
    contributing to parents being tired.

    Just what point are you trying to make? Are you making a comment about
    age when people are having kids, or is your point more about social
    standing and absentee parenting? Maybe you are talking about single
    parents?

    If your comment is about long hours, I think you are missing my point.
    I think that my own mother (a single mom) did a decent job of being
    active with me despite her heavy school and work loads. She could do
    this because she was in her early twenties when I was born and she
    still had some of the energy and enthusiasm of youth on her side. My
    grandmother was in her early forties when my uncle was born. They had a
    two-parent family. Only my grandfather worked long hours with physical
    labor.

    My point is that younger people are better able to handle the physical
    demands of parenting. As we put off marriage and children, we are
    creating a situation which makes it more difficult for our parents to
    do their job as parents. This leads to the need for a substitute parent
    (day care or a nanny) which lead to the need for a greater income which
    leads to even longer working hours. And this applies to both parents
    these days. It is rare for one parent to stay at home, especially when
    they are busy buying the trappings of today's society.

    I always wonder about other peoples' priorities when I see a $30,000
    truck sitting in front of a mobile home as I ride by on a bicycle or
    drive by in an 11 year old truck.

    -Buck

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave Thompson said:

    If that article were true, the Netherlands would be empty!

    Read the article. Those at risk are serious long-distance riders.
    The average Dutch commuter pottering along for a two- or three-mile ride
    to/from work is NOT at risk. bob

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Andy said:

    If people in their fifties are so tired and worn out, how come I
    regularly see people in their 50s averaging 17-19 mph on 40 mile
    non-stop group rides? How come I have known many hikers well over 50
    who could do a 16 mile dayhike with 5,000 feet elevation gain without
    any problems whatsoever?

    Just fyi, I am 67, semi-retired, 6'3", 185 lbs and, when not working,
    put in 250 miles a week. bob

  20. R. Gerard said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave Thompson said:

    If that article were true, the Netherlands would be empty!

    Read the article. Those at risk are serious long-distance riders.
    The average Dutch commuter pottering along for a two- or three-mile
    ride to/from work is NOT at risk. bob


    My comment was tongue-in-cheek, so to speak.

    I ride long rides *very* frequently, 50 + miles, and most assuredly I don't
    have a problem! Another poster who stated that he thought that the
    pain/discomfort was a part of cycling may have one however.

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