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  1. Cellular Medicine in Cancer

    Cellular Medicine provides a new perspective in the developmental steps of
    cancer and its metastasis and new safe, effective therapeutic options.

    Choices and Outcomes in Cancer Treatment:
    For decades, standard treatment for cancer has consisted of surgery,
    radiation and chemotherapy. Radiation and chemotherapy, the most frequently
    used therapies, not only are ineffective in providing a cure, but also
    indiscriminately attack all cells - healthy and cancerous, causing cellular
    damage and destruction of the body's connective tissue, the defense against
    cancer metastasis. Both radiation and chemotherapy trigger the development
    of new cancers and damage the immune system and body organs. In addition,
    these interventions activate enzymes that facilitate the release of cancer
    cells from a localized area to spread to other organs.

    At Matthias Rath Research, we have achieved a breakthrough in cancer
    research by defining the cellular mechanisms involved in cancer
    proliferation and metastasis and developed a natural means of controlling
    these mechanisms. Efficient control of the spread of a disease by
    collagen-dissolving enzyme blocks has been successful with several diseases.
    This is especially important in diseases for which orthodox medicine has no
    preventive or healing therapies yet. A combination of natural nutrients
    formulated to support the body in curbing metastasis and reversing tumor
    growth, has been shown to be effective against a variety of human cancer
    cell lines, without adverse effects on normal cells.

    http://www.drrathresearch.org/lab_research/cancer.html#titles

  2. "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Cellular Medicine in Cancer

    Cellular Medicine provides a new perspective in the developmental steps of
    cancer and its metastasis and new safe, effective therapeutic options.

    Let's look at the lies that have to be used to make Dr Rath's concoctions
    look good..

    Quoted message said:

    Choices and Outcomes in Cancer Treatment:
    For decades, standard treatment for cancer has consisted of surgery,
    radiation and chemotherapy. Radiation and chemotherapy, the most


    frequently

    Quoted message said:

    used therapies,

    Surgery is far and away the most frequently used medical treatment, but it
    suits the quacks to refer to treatments that are only used in more
    life-threatening or difficult cancers..

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    not only are ineffective in providing a cure,

    The BIG LIE. Chemotherapy has a high cure rate with lymphoma, leukemias,
    childhood cancers and even with metastatic testicular cancer. It
    significantly increases the long term cure rate when added to surgery in
    breast and colon cancer.

    Quoted message said:

    but also
    indiscriminately attack all cells - healthy and cancerous,

    It attacks mainly rapidly dividing cells, ones that are easily replaced
    after treatment,

    Quoted message said:

    causing cellular
    damage and destruction of the body's connective tissue, the defense


    against

    Quoted message said:

    cancer metastasis.

    Not true, but so what? Chemotherapy is almost exclusively used in patients
    who have already metastasised, are likely to have already metastasised, or
    who have already had the primary tumour removed so that further metastases
    cannot occur.

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    Both radiation and chemotherapy trigger the development
    of new cancers and damage the immune system and body organs.

    Not so relevant if a patient has a cancer that untreated (or treated by
    ineffective methods) will lead to death. Also, the incidence of additional
    second cancers after chemotherapy is a very small percentage at twenty or
    thirty years, much less than the gain in cure rate survival when
    chemotherapy is used as an adjuvant to surgery. How is it preferable to
    let the first cancer kill you off?

    Quoted message said:

    In addition,
    these interventions activate enzymes that facilitate the release of cancer
    cells from a localized area to spread to other organs.

    Simply repeating the claim that they facilitate metastasis. See above.

    Quoted message said:

    At Matthias Rath Research, we have achieved a breakthrough in cancer
    research by defining the cellular mechanisms involved in cancer
    proliferation and metastasis and developed a natural means of controlling
    these mechanisms.

    I say this is [censored].

    Quoted message said:

    Efficient control of the spread of a disease by
    collagen-dissolving enzyme blocks has been successful with several


    diseases.

    Quoted message said:

    This is especially important in diseases for which orthodox medicine has


    no

    Quoted message said:

    preventive or healing therapies yet. A combination of natural nutrients
    formulated to support the body in curbing metastasis and reversing tumor
    growth, has been shown to be effective against a variety of human cancer
    cell lines, without adverse effects on normal cells.

    Rath offers not a scrap of clinical evidence in support this claim. The
    testimonials on his site are even of a shameful quality for a doctor
    purporting to be a serious cancer researcher.

    Instead he offers numerous tissue culture experiments which may show nothing
    more than that his preparation is toxic to any kind of cell if added to the
    culture medium. Certainly he has not shown that the proliferation of
    normal cells in tissue culture is not affected in the same way. Add enough
    of any chemical to a tissue culture and the cells will complain, as
    innumerable other cancer quacks have discovered, to their great glee.

    Why should I not conclude that this is all a cynical beat-up, designed
    merely to sell his products?

    Peter Moran.

  3. "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    causing cellular
    damage and destruction of the body's connective tissue, the defense


    against

    Quoted message said:

    cancer metastasis.

    Not true, but so what? Chemotherapy is almost exclusively used in patients
    who have already metastasised, are likely to have already metastasised, or
    who have already had the primary tumour removed so that further metastases
    cannot occur.

    I missed something at first reading of this. Of course, Rath is looking for
    a niche in the 'alternative' market where a some unfortunate cancer
    sufferers are being seduced into NOT having any proper medical treatment of
    their primary cancer. So they do remain in permanent dread of metastases.

    I have now many examples where such patients have had to watch their
    cancers growing and growing, and ulcerating and bleeding, and becoming ever
    more painful, while they desperately to cling to "the faith", trying an
    ever expanding combination of "alternatives".

    It is interesting that despite the evidence of their own senses, such
    patients rarely do ever realise they have been sold an extremely evil bill
    of goods, or at least I have never seen one admit to this.

    In a few cases their choice has been reasonably rational, when the prognosis
    with conventional treatment was pretty hopeless anyway, but even those may
    have been denied useful palliation.

    Peter Moran
    ..

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    ..au>,

    Peter Moran said:

    Rath offers not a scrap of clinical evidence in support this claim. The
    testimonials on his site are even of a shameful quality for a doctor
    purporting to be a serious cancer researcher.

    Instead he offers numerous tissue culture experiments which may show nothing
    more than that his preparation is toxic to any kind of cell if added to the
    culture medium. Certainly he has not shown that the proliferation of
    normal cells in tissue culture is not affected in the same way. Add enough
    of any chemical to a tissue culture and the cells will complain, as
    innumerable other cancer quacks have discovered, to their great glee.

    Indeed. I could add bleach at varying concentrations to my tissue
    culture flasks, and quite easily "prove" that it is toxic to tumor cells
    at very low concentrations. That doesn't mean bleach is a good therapy
    for cancer.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  5. It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Orac said:

    Indeed. I could add bleach at varying concentrations to my tissue
    culture flasks, and quite easily "prove" that it is toxic to tumor
    cells at very low concentrations. That doesn't mean bleach is a good
    therapy for cancer.

    LOL! I'd offer you my prolactinoma(sorry, haven't got anything more
    interesting) for use in your experiment but it's in my head at the
    moment. <g>

    Vashti

  6. a guy called in on coastocoastam.com talk show.......he says his friend
    is in prison in plymouth or dartmouth mass by us gov. for discovering
    cheap cure for cancer that would cost med prof billions lost $.......he
    says cure is : in a blender put raw almonds,raw garlic,raw
    onions.....make paste... eat daily.....guy sounded for real...

  7. Quoted message said:

    a guy called in on coastocoastam.com talk show.......he says his friend
    is in prison in plymouth or dartmouth mass by us gov. for discovering
    cheap cure for cancer that would cost med prof billions lost $.......he
    says cure is : in a blender put raw almonds,raw garlic,raw
    onions.....make paste... eat daily.....guy sounded for real...

    I hope you like wearing prison stripes and showering with other guys.
    You are *SO* Busted!

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