Slightly embarrassing question

John B said:

Peewiglet said:

Not a hooded jacket, then?

Hoods are a big no no when cycling.

Ahaa - thanks. I didn't realise that.

Quoted message said:

It is *very* important to be able to look behind. A hood can very often
restrict vision.

Makes sense - thanks for epxlaininig.

Wet fishes,
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email hidden said:

Quoted message said:

I can't believe that the
commuters on here are regularly getting soaked to the skin when riding
in on wet mornings...

Believe it. For a 30 minute commute I don't bother trying to keep dry.
I will normally wear fewer clothes if it is really wet unless it is
very cold. Computer fans and CRT monitors are your friends for drying
clothes at work (with some caveats obviously). If my clothes haven't
quite dried it is a little unpleasant putting them on but I find I
don't notice it once I am going

Wow, and I thought I was fairly robust! I really don't like the idea
of an hour in in heavy rain followed, 8hours later, by an hour home in
wet clothes (nothing to dry it on at my place).

Hm....

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Phil Cook said:

The "if it rains people get wet" approach is probably the way to go.

For a 2 hour round trip though?

Quoted message said:

We have drying facilities at work but most of the time I don't need to
use them. If you have clothes that dry quickly and it is nice and warm
at work, as most places are these days, you can often get them dry by
the time you need to put them on again to go home. If not then ride
home in the dry clothes you took to work.

The clothse are ok, but (until the switch the radiators on, at least)
they don't dry during the day because it's not warm enough at work.

Wet fishes,
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Peewiglet said:

John B said:

Peewiglet said:

Not a hooded jacket, then?

Hoods are a big no no when cycling.

Ahaa - thanks. I didn't realise that.

John is entitled to his view, but it is not universal. A well-fitting
hood is very valuable, in my experience.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It is *very* important to be able to look behind. A hood can very often
restrict vision.

Makes sense - thanks for epxlaininig.

OTOH, when the hood does not significantly restrict vision, perhaps even
John would agree that there is no good reason not to use one.

James
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James Annan said:

OTOH, when the hood does not significantly restrict vision, perhaps even
John would agree that there is no good reason not to use one.

I don't recollect encountering any hood that doesn't carry a _risk_
of restricting vision. They _can_ have an impact on hearing, too.

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Peewiglet said:

The clothse are ok, but (until the switch the radiators on, at least)
they don't dry during the day because it's not warm enough at work.

The human body is a great dryer for wet clothes. Works well for
most clothes at slightly-damp to moderately-wet. When soaking ...
the trick is to have been wearing the right clothes in the
first place. Formal clothes, or (worst of all) jeans will be
utterly miserable. A t-shirt is bearable (great in hot weather:-),
while a track suit will be just fine - and add a fleece when it
gets colder in another month or two.

--
Nick Kew

Nick Kew said:

James Annan said:

OTOH, when the hood does not significantly restrict vision, perhaps
even John would agree that there is no good reason not to use one.

I don't recollect encountering any hood that doesn't carry a _risk_
of restricting vision. They _can_ have an impact on hearing, too.

Well a pair of spectacles can fall off and break, but I would not say
that riding with specs is "a big no-no".

Certainly, visibility is something to think about. i hve a jacket with a
fairly thin hood that fitted under my helmet (back when I used to wear
one) and when so restrained could not avoid turning with my head.

Nowadays I don't bother with the helmet, but don't bother with looking
behind much either. Of course, I don't just suddenly turn right blindly...

James
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Bertie Wiggins said:

[censored] caught between the chain and chainring would be a personal
concern of mine.

If my [censored] reached the chain/chainring when I was seated on a bike
would be to busy bragging/appearing on telly etc to cycle about in the
buff.
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soup said:

Bertie Wiggins said:

[censored] caught between the chain and chainring would be a personal
concern of mine.

If my [censored] reached the chain/chainring when I was seated on a bike
would be to busy bragging/appearing on telly etc to cycle about in the
buff.

Lol :-))

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James Annan said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>Not a hooded jacket, then?

Hoods are a big no no when cycling.

Ahaa - thanks. I didn't realise that.

John is entitled to his view, but it is not universal. A well-fitting
hood is very valuable, in my experience.

Ok...

In fact, I suppose what I was really thinking about was putting the
hood under <coff...> any helmet that I might accidentally be wearing
</coff...>, as that would hold it in place.

Wet fishes,
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Nick Kew said:

Peewiglet said:

The clothse are ok, but (until the switch the radiators on, at least)
they don't dry during the day because it's not warm enough at work.

The human body is a great dryer for wet clothes. Works well for
most clothes at slightly-damp to moderately-wet. When soaking ...
the trick is to have been wearing the right clothes in the
first place. Formal clothes, or (worst of all) jeans will be
utterly miserable. A t-shirt is bearable (great in hot weather:-),
while a track suit will be just fine - and add a fleece when it
gets colder in another month or two.

Perhaps I'm just wearing more clothes than the rest of you? I had on
running tights (quick drying), a wicking baselayer (from walking kit),
a nice cozy cycling hoody and a waterproof jacket.

On reflection, the hoody may have caused the main problem, as I
suppose the water travelled down through the hood and down to my back.
Anyway, it's all quick drying stuff that I use for running or walking
(except the hoody), but it didn't dry at work, and I was - and
remained, for some time at least - cold when I put it on to ride home.

Next time I'll do without the hoody, and perhaps invest in a winter
buff.

Wet fishes,
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:35:13 +0100, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

John is entitled to his view, but it is not universal. A well-fitting
hood is very valuable, in my experience.

Ok...

In fact, I suppose what I was really thinking about was putting the
hood under <coff...> any helmet that I might accidentally be wearing
</coff...>, as that would hold it in place.

I wear my Montane smock with the hood under my bike helmet. It keeps
the wind off my ears nicely, but does not restrict vision because the
helmet keeps it in place.

Judith

Nick Kew said:

James Annan said:

OTOH, when the hood does not significantly restrict vision, perhaps
even John would agree that there is no good reason not to use one.

I don't recollect encountering any hood that doesn't carry a _risk_
of restricting vision. They _can_ have an impact on hearing, too.

You forget that James lives in Japan and will be wearing one of these
hooded coats:
http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/projects/MEDIA/xv/oc.html

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Tony

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Anon

Quoted message said:

I rode to/from work y/day in heavy rain. I had on a decent waterproof
(the name has escaped me for now, but I've read good things about them
here in the past) with a little hoody thing underneath. My legs were
dry as I had Paclite trousers on, but my socks and trainers were
soaked.

I konw it's possible to get something to put over my feet - neoprene
or some such thing - but should I have got soaked on top? I think the
rain actually went down my neck. There's no hood on my waterproof.
What's the best way to get round it? Get a w/proof with a hood? If
not, how do you keep the rain from pouring down your neck?

It was *really* horrible putting those wet clothes on 8 hours later to
ride home again...

Hang on, I'm confused. It went down your neck and into your shoes?

A mudflap on the front mudguard makes a big-huge difference - even with
full length mudguards riding through puddles gets spray onto ankles and
shoes. As well as that water may be running down the outside of the
trousers and onto your shoes.

Neckwise, low drop handlebars work for me. I've got a buff thingy to
wear when it gets cold (like a scarf but less faff). I wear a baseball
cap to keep rain out of my eyes.

When touring I wear a wide brimmed hat - works perfectly for both sun and
rain. Keeps rain off my head completely. The brim sometimes flaps into
my eyes when dipping head for non-dipped car headlights. Am thinking a
bit of wire would fix this but sadly I rarely go touring so haven't
bothered. If you do get a hat, one with a bit of sting to put under the
chin is essential if you don't want to be stopping to pick it up on every
other hill.

Hoody under water proofs sounds overkill for me unless it's _really_
cold. I found I had to start off cold and then warm up 5 minutes into
the ride. Gloves and buff/scarf made a huge difference without making me
overheat. Wind+water _resistent_ wossnames seem better than
water_proofs_. Waterproofs still trap a lot of sweat in, even tho the
breathable ones are miles better than the boil in the bag stuff that came
before.

Mark Thompson said:

Quoted message said:

I rode to/from work y/day in heavy rain. I had on a decent waterproof
(the name has escaped me for now, but I've read good things about them
here in the past) with a little hoody thing underneath. My legs were
dry as I had Paclite trousers on, but my socks and trainers were
soaked.

I konw it's possible to get something to put over my feet - neoprene
or some such thing - but should I have got soaked on top? I think the
rain actually went down my neck. There's no hood on my waterproof.
What's the best way to get round it? Get a w/proof with a hood? If
not, how do you keep the rain from pouring down your neck?

It was *really* horrible putting those wet clothes on 8 hours later to
ride home again...

Hang on, I'm confused. It went down your neck and into your shoes?

No, rain got into my shoes in the gap between the Paclite trousers
mentioned above and my shoes. The trousers ride up when I cycle in
them.

Quoted message said:

A mudflap on the front mudguard makes a big-huge difference - even with
full length mudguards riding through puddles gets spray onto ankles and
shoes.

I'll see if I can get one: thanks.

Quoted message said:

As well as that water may be running down the outside of the
trousers and onto your shoes.

I'm sure it was, due to the gap: see above.

Quoted message said:

Neckwise, low drop handlebars work for me.

Unfortunately, that's not what I've got. I've just got the one bike,
and it's a Ridgeback Cyclone. It makes for a fairly upright sort of
ride.

Quoted message said:

I've got a buff thingy to
wear when it gets cold (like a scarf but less faff). I wear a baseball
cap to keep rain out of my eyes.

I'm going to look out for a polar buff, thanks. My ordinary buffs
wouldn't have made any difference in the sort of rain I experienced.
They wouldn't have been bulky enough, and (since they're cotton) the
water would have soaked straight through.

[...]

Quoted message said:

Hoody under water proofs sounds overkill for me unless it's _really_
cold.

It was the rain that was the problem, rather than the cold. If I wear
a hood attached to my jacket then rain won't be able to go down my
neck: that's what I was thinking. I agree that it could easily get too
hot, though.

Quoted message said:

I found I had to start off cold and then warm up 5 minutes into
the ride. Gloves and buff/scarf made a huge difference without making me
overheat. Wind+water _resistent_ wossnames seem better than
water_proofs_. Waterproofs still trap a lot of sweat in, even tho the
breathable ones are miles better than the boil in the bag stuff that came
before.

Maybe I'll try the water resistant things next time then, thanks, as
several people have suggested it. I'm not yet convinced, but must keep
an open mind etc :-)

Wet fishes,
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Peewiglet wrote:
Hi PW

Quoted message said:

Maybe I'll try the water resistant things next time then, thanks, as
several people have suggested it. I'm not yet convinced, but must keep
an open mind etc :-)

I'm late to this discussion, but have you thought of taking some extra
clothes (at least a baselayer and perhaps the longs, too) with you on
wet days so you have something dry to wear for the ride home?

If I'm going out for a day-long ride on a seriously wet day I sometimes
carry a spare baselayer and maybe a jersey and longs to change into at
the lunch stop.

Mike

Mike K Smith said:

Peewiglet wrote:
Hi PW

Quoted message said:

Maybe I'll try the water resistant things next time then, thanks, as
several people have suggested it. I'm not yet convinced, but must keep
an open mind etc :-)

I'm late to this discussion, but have you thought of taking some extra
clothes (at least a baselayer and perhaps the longs, too) with you on
wet days so you have something dry to wear for the ride home?

That's the other thing I'm planning now, thanks 🙂

Quoted message said:

If I'm going out for a day-long ride on a seriously wet day I sometimes
carry a spare baselayer and maybe a jersey and longs to change into at
the lunch stop.

I'm relieved to learn that I'm not the only person who can get wet and
uncomfy riding a bike in the rain 🙂

Wet fishes,
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POHB said:

I check the outside thermometer before I set off. Roughly I go for:

15+ C = Short sleeve T shirt
10-15 C = Long sleeve T shirt
5 - 10 C = Short sleeve T under long sleeve T
0 - 5 C = Long sleeve T under Jacket
-5 - 0 C = Short sleeve T under long sleeve T under jacket

What's your minimum temperature for shorts? I went on a 25km trip
this afternoon, temperature between 11° and 12°C. I felt fine in
shorts, yet got a number of stares suggesting that I was just ever so
slightly off my rocker ...

usually save the tights until it's more like 7-8 degrees C. Don't
really feel the cold but my knee's tell me when they need covering
because they start to get sore after the ride when it's cold :-)

about getting wet.. i just get wet & take a spare pair of socks,
shorts & jersey.. they don't weigh much at all, so it's no bother.

Last year I was in shorts until the end of November and I am certainly still
in them in this mild month. Although I am now in a long sleeved shirt with
a lightweight jacket for morning wear. I keep a long-sleeved zipped top in
my pannier for cold snaps but no problem with bare legs!!! ( I also keep
overshoes in the panniers as well cos I do like to keep my feet dry and
warm -- even in shorts!)

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Quoted message said:

POHB said:

I check the outside thermometer before I set off. Roughly I go for:

15+ C = Short sleeve T shirt
10-15 C = Long sleeve T shirt
5 - 10 C = Short sleeve T under long sleeve T
0 - 5 C = Long sleeve T under Jacket
-5 - 0 C = Short sleeve T under long sleeve T under jacket

What's your minimum temperature for shorts? I went on a 25km trip
this afternoon, temperature between 11° and 12°C. I felt fine in
shorts, yet got a number of stares suggesting that I was just ever so
slightly off my rocker ...