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Derek Lyons said:

Dimitri said:

We are creating a generation of misinformed idiots;

No, we are living in an age where food snobs are attempting to define
each and every term with a single meaning - even if it does not have
such in it's native enviroment.

D.

we are living in a confusing time where both of these memes hold true.

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Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:

Ed said:

Lasagna = anything with a layer of noodles

Oh, the layers don't even have to be NOODLES: I've seen a "lasagna" recipe
made with layers of tofu.

Ugh.

Bob

Layers of zuchinni work better if you are low carbing. :-)
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Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:

Oh, the layers don't even have to be NOODLES: I've seen a "lasagna" recipe
made with layers of tofu.

I've even seen it made with cut-out pieces of chilled polenta.

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AlleyGator said:

Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:

Oh, the layers don't even have to be NOODLES: I've seen a "lasagna" recipe
made with layers of tofu.

I've even seen it made with cut-out pieces of chilled polenta.

So, would it be safe to say that lasagna = 'Hotdish baked in a 9x13"
pan'? Or does it need some kind of qualifiers, like tomatoes, or layered?

What is the most dubious thing you can call lasagna and get away with it?

Bob

Bob

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What is the most dubious thing you can call lasagna and
get away with it?

Anything product produced by Stofers would easily qualify. (It doesn't
even have to be edible.)

The Ranger

"Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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"Dimitri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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We are creating a generation of misinformed idiots;

Scampi = a creamy garlic sauce as in Chicken scampi
Alfredo = a creamy sauce with cheese (probably Kraft
packed in cardboard)
BBQ = Anything cooked on a grill
BBQ Ribs = Ribs baked in the oven in BBQ sauce.
Pot Roast = Any meat steamed in its own juices in a crock pot.
Pot Roast Supreme = see above only sprinkle dry onion soup on top.
Marinara = Any meatless tomato concoction form a stupidmarket
in a jar.
Home Made = Something frozen and either boiled or nuked for
dinner. Stroganoff = Sour Cream and anything as in Pigs feet
stroganoff. or better yet Hamburger Helper
Veronique = Anything made by Veronica
Sushi = Raw fish
Sunny Side Up = Steamed or Basted

Caesar salad has to fit in there somewhere.

nancy

LOL... Yeah, it's chopped romaine with ranch dressing.

Michael

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On Fri 14 Oct 2005 06:19:59p, skoonj wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Fri 14 Oct 2005 04:46:16p, Nancy Young wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Dimitri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> We are creating a generation of misinformed idiots;
>>
>> Scampi = a creamy garlic sauce as in Chicken scampi
>> Alfredo = a creamy sauce with cheese (probably Kraft
>> packed in cardboard) BBQ = Anything cooked on a grill
>> BBQ Ribs = Ribs baked in the oven in BBQ sauce.
>> Pot Roast = Any meat steamed in its own juices in a crock
>> pot. Pot Roast Supreme = see above only sprinkle dry onion soup on
>> top. Marinara = Any meatless tomato concoction form a
>> stupidmarket in a jar. Home Made = Something frozen and either
>> boiled or nuked for dinner. Stroganoff = Sour Cream and
>> anything as in Pigs feet stroganoff. or better yet Hamburger Helper
>> Veronique = Anything made by Veronica
>> Sushi = Raw fish
>> Sunny Side Up = Steamed or Basted
>
> Caesar salad has to fit in there somewhere.
>
> nancy

Why is that today Caesar Salad almost always comes with chicken? Erp!

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The same reason Fettucine Alfredo almost always comes with chicken.

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Also erp!

Don't forget the frozen peas in the Alfredo.

Michael <big erp>

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Quoted message said:

Dimitri said:

We are creating a generation of misinformed idiots;

Scampi = a creamy garlic sauce as in Chicken scampi
Alfredo = a creamy sauce with cheese (probably Kraft
packed in cardboard)
BBQ = Anything cooked on a grill
BBQ Ribs = Ribs baked in the oven in BBQ sauce.
Pot Roast = Any meat steamed in its own juices in a crock pot.
Pot Roast Supreme = see above only sprinkle dry onion soup on top.
Marinara = Any meatless tomato concoction form a stupidmarket
in a jar. Home Made = Something frozen and either boiled or nuked
for dinner. Stroganoff = Sour Cream and anything as in Pigs
feet stroganoff. or better yet Hamburger Helper
Veronique = Anything made by Veronica
Sushi = Raw fish
Sunny Side Up = Steamed or Basted

What else?

Dimitri

Piccata = includes lemon juice, real or fake.

gloria p

Chicken stock = Anything canned with broth stamped on it.

Michael

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The Ranger said:

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Quoted message said:

What is the most dubious thing you can call lasagna and
get away with it?

Anything product produced by Stofers would easily qualify. (It doesn't
even have to be edible.)

The Ranger

Doesn't Chef Boyardee make a canned lasagna? You dump 3 or 4 (15 ounce)
cans in a 9x13" pan and top with plastic cheese slices and bake until it
gets bubbly. Mmmmm. Serve with powdered parmesan cheese in the green can.

(I've had worse)

Bob

"Dimitri" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

We are creating a generation of misinformed idiots;

Scampi = a creamy garlic sauce as in Chicken scampi
Alfredo = a creamy sauce with cheese (probably Kraft packed
in cardboard)
BBQ = Anything cooked on a grill
BBQ Ribs = Ribs baked in the oven in BBQ sauce.
Pot Roast = Any meat steamed in its own juices in a crock pot.
Pot Roast Supreme = see above only sprinkle dry onion soup on top.
Marinara = Any meatless tomato concoction form a stupidmarket
in a jar. Home Made = Something frozen and either boiled or nuked
for dinner. Stroganoff = Sour Cream and anything as in Pigs feet
stroganoff. or better yet Hamburger Helper
Veronique = Anything made by Veronica
Sushi = Raw fish
Sunny Side Up = Steamed or Basted

What else?

Dimitri

Home Baked = Sneaky terminology alluding to scratch made.

Michael

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"zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote

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AlleyGator wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:

Oh, the layers don't even have to be NOODLES: I've seen a "lasagna"
recipe made with layers of tofu.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've even seen it made with cut-out pieces of chilled polenta.

Quoted message said:

So, would it be safe to say that lasagna = 'Hotdish baked in a 9x13" pan'?
Or does it need some kind of qualifiers, like tomatoes, or layered?

Is there some sort of definition for lasagna? Hard to know what rules
are being 'broken' if there are no rules. Does the word have is root in
Italian?

Quoted message said:

What is the most dubious thing you can call lasagna and get away with it?

Closest I came was eggplant lasagna. Hmmm, maybe the most dubious
ingredient is cottage cheese (Damsel?). Just kidding, I'd probably like it.

nancy

"The Ranger" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Anything product produced by Stofers would easily qualify. (It doesn't
even have to be edible.)

Have you tried it? Just curious.

nancy

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Nancy Young said:

Closest I came was eggplant lasagna.

Do you mean lasagna with eggplant in it, or lasagna made of eggplant
instead of noodles?

I have a Sicilian recipe for lasagne that has eggplant, peppers,
olives and such in it and we like it quite a bit.

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"Dimitri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

We are creating a generation of misinformed idiots;

Scampi = a creamy garlic sauce as in Chicken scampi
Alfredo = a creamy sauce with cheese (probably Kraft packed in
cardboard)
BBQ = Anything cooked on a grill
BBQ Ribs = Ribs baked in the oven in BBQ sauce.
Pot Roast = Any meat steamed in its own juices in a crock pot.
Pot Roast Supreme = see above only sprinkle dry onion soup on top.
Marinara = Any meatless tomato concoction form a stupidmarket in a
jar.
Home Made = Something frozen and either boiled or nuked for dinner.
Stroganoff = Sour Cream and anything as in Pigs feet stroganoff. or
better yet Hamburger Helper
Veronique = Anything made by Veronica
Sushi = Raw fish
Sunny Side Up = Steamed or Basted

What else?

LOL, nice list, although I confess that the Sunny Side Up entry puzzles me!
I'll add:

Caesar salad: Any salad that contains romaine lettuce.
Rare: Has a touch of pink in the center.
Pesto: An edible green paste, ingredients unimportant.

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AlleyGator said:

Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:

Oh, the layers don't even have to be NOODLES: I've seen a "lasagna"

recipe

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

made with layers of tofu.

I've even seen it made with cut-out pieces of chilled polenta.

So, would it be safe to say that lasagna = 'Hotdish baked in a 9x13"
pan'? Or does it need some kind of qualifiers, like tomatoes, or layered?

What is the most dubious thing you can call lasagna and get away with it?

Bob

I've seen a recipe for "lasagna" layered with sliced 'taters, salmon, and
spinach. It sounded wonderful, but is it lasanga?

kili

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Reg said:

Dimitri said:

What else?

Napolean = Anything layered on a plate
Carpaccio = Anything sliced very thinly
Pesto = Any paste-like substance

well, doesn't pesto literally mean anything (food) ground into a paste
with a pestle?

Perhaps, but that's irrelevant. In the culinary world it means a paste made
from basil, cheese, etc.

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Peter Aitken

"Ranee Mueller" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Nancy Young said:

Closest I came was eggplant lasagna.

Do you mean lasagna with eggplant in it, or lasagna made of eggplant
instead of noodles?

Exactly, no noodles.

Quoted message said:

I have a Sicilian recipe for lasagne that has eggplant, peppers,
olives and such in it and we like it quite a bit.

That sounds like a keeper. Ricotta in it, mozzarella? Noodles?
I'd make it either way, eggplant as the noodles or just noodles.

nancy

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Sat 15 Oct 2005 08:22:14a, kilikini wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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AlleyGator wrote:
> "Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:
>
>>Oh, the layers don't even have to be NOODLES: I've seen a "lasagna"
>>recipe made with layers of tofu.
>>
>
>
> I've even seen it made with cut-out pieces of chilled polenta.
>

So, would it be safe to say that lasagna = 'Hotdish baked in a 9x13"
pan'? Or does it need some kind of qualifiers, like tomatoes, or

layered?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What is the most dubious thing you can call lasagna and get away with

it?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Bob

I've seen a recipe for "lasagna" layered with sliced 'taters, salmon,

and

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Quoted message said:

spinach. It sounded wonderful, but is it lasanga?

kili

Yes, that must be salmon and tater "lasanga" and not lasagna. Big
difference. :-)

Oh you!!!!! Pfffffffffffft! :-D

kili

"Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote
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| > AlleyGator wrote:
|
| >> "Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:
| >>
| >>>Oh, the layers don't even have to be NOODLES: I've seen a "lasagna"
| >>>recipe made with layers of tofu.
|
| >> I've even seen it made with cut-out pieces of chilled polenta.
|
| > So, would it be safe to say that lasagna = 'Hotdish baked in a 9x13"
pan'?
| > Or does it need some kind of qualifiers, like tomatoes, or layered?
|
| Is there some sort of definition for lasagna?

According to Webster online:

Main Entry: la·sa·gna
Pronunciation: l&-'zän-y&
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian lasagna, from (assumed) Vulgar Latin lasania
cooking pot, its contents, from Latin lasanum chamber pot, from Greek
lasanon
1 also la·sa·gne /-y&/ : pasta in the form of broad often ruffled
ribbons
2 : a baked dish consisting chiefly of layers of boiled lasagna,
cheese, and a seasoned sauce of tomatoes and usually meat

Hard to know what rules
| are being 'broken' if there are no rules. Does the word have is root in
| Italian?

According to Webster the only rule is that you use lasagna noodles.

|
| > What is the most dubious thing you can call lasagna and get away with
it?

Boiled plain lasagna noodles?

Debbie

On Sat 15 Oct 2005 08:22:14a, kilikini wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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"zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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AlleyGator said:

"Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:

>Oh, the layers don't even have to be NOODLES: I've seen a "lasagna"
>recipe made with layers of tofu.
>

I've even seen it made with cut-out pieces of chilled polenta.

So, would it be safe to say that lasagna = 'Hotdish baked in a 9x13"
pan'? Or does it need some kind of qualifiers, like tomatoes, or

layered?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What is the most dubious thing you can call lasagna and get away with

it?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Bob

I've seen a recipe for "lasagna" layered with sliced 'taters, salmon, and
spinach. It sounded wonderful, but is it lasanga?

kili

Yes, that must be salmon and tater "lasanga" and not lasagna. Big
difference. :-)

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