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  1. A while ago (hell - it's a year) I posted a question
    about pasta making.

    I'm still failing.

    Has anyone been to Northern Italy (e.g. Florence,
    but I imagine Tuscany in general) enjoyed the local
    soft-textured pasta, then returned to dear old
    Blighty, and

    *successfully reproduced the pasta at home* ?

    I have one of these:
    http://www.sharpknives.com/gourmets_toolbox_pages/imperia_pasta_machine.htm
    Which should help with part of the processs.

    Yours in hungry anticipation...

    BugBear

  2. "bugbear" <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    Quoted message said:

    A while ago (hell - it's a year) I posted a question
    about pasta making.

    I'm still failing.

    Has anyone been to Northern Italy (e.g. Florence,
    but I imagine Tuscany in general) enjoyed the local
    soft-textured pasta, then returned to dear old
    Blighty, and

    *successfully reproduced the pasta at home* ?

    I have one of these:
    http://www.sharpknives.com/gourmets_toolbox_pages/imperia_pasta_machine.htm
    Which should help with part of the processs.

    Yours in hungry anticipation...

    BugBear

    I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian 🙂

  3. Pandora said:


    I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian 🙂

    Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)

    BugBear

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    bugbear bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim said:
    Pandora said:


    I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian 🙂

    Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)

    BugBear

    <lol> I thought the same thing, but restrained myself.....
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  5. "bugbear" <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Pandora said:


    I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian 🙂

    Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)

    Bugbear, if you have had success making it in Italy but not in UK may I
    suggest the flour is the difference. You can buy 00 flour in UK in
    supermarkets

  6. Greetings> That s my vote also, it`s about the flour. I have to add
    gluten to the flour available here. From there is learning to adjust
    the ratio of flour to egg to get a firm silky dough with water or flour
    after kneading. Regards, Don in Mexico

  7. Ophelia said:

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    Quoted message said:
    Pandora said:

    I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian 🙂

    Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)

    Bugbear, if you have had success making it in Italy

    I have had success only in EATING the pasta
    in Italy (and a great deal of pleasure, I might add)

    Quoted message said:

    but not in UK may I
    suggest the flour is the difference. You can buy 00 flour in UK in
    supermarkets

    I have used both '0' and '00' flour
    with no improvement; indeed, with no detectable
    change.

    Whatever I'm doing wrong, it's a strong enough
    factor to outweigh other factors :-(

    BugBear

  8. bugbear said:

    A while ago (hell - it's a year) I posted a question
    about pasta making.

    OOps. Forgot the link.

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/browse_frm/thread/c504788b93fcda98/f66ebb9a358d44a0#f66ebb9a358d44a0

    BugBear

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    Ophelia said:

    "bugbear" <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
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    Pandora wrote:

    >I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian 🙂

    Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)

    Bugbear, if you have had success making it in Italy

    I have had success only in EATING the pasta
    in Italy (and a great deal of pleasure, I might add)

    Quoted message said:

    but not in UK may I
    suggest the flour is the difference. You can buy 00 flour in UK in
    supermarkets

    I have used both '0' and '00' flour
    with no improvement; indeed, with no detectable
    change.

    Whatever I'm doing wrong, it's a strong enough
    factor to outweigh other factors :-(

    BugBear

    Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes on the packet.
    From there you can experiment to get where you wish to be.
    I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
    You don't really say what your malfunction is....

  10. Judith go said:

    "bugbear" <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message

    Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes on the packet.
    From there you can experiment to get where you wish to be.
    I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
    You don't really say what your malfunction is....

    Because I don't know :-(

    The only constant is the texture of my result;
    the pasta is dense, and the surface very smooth.

    In the mouth it has a texture I would describe
    as "slimy leather".

    Not good!

    I have had this same result with 3 types of flour.
    (bread, type '0' and type '00'😉

    BugBear

  11. "bugbear" <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Judith go said:

    "bugbear" <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message

    Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes on the
    packet.
    From there you can experiment to get where you wish to be.
    I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
    You don't really say what your malfunction is....

    Because I don't know :-(

    The only constant is the texture of my result;
    the pasta is dense, and the surface very smooth.

    In the mouth it has a texture I would describe
    as "slimy leather".

    Not good!

    I have had this same result with 3 types of flour.
    (bread, type '0' and type '00'😉

    then the only other thing is, as Judith says, fine semolina flour🙂

    Good luck

  12. "bugbear" <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
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    Judith go said:

    "bugbear" <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message

    Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes on the packet.
    From there you can experiment to get where you wish to be.
    I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
    You don't really say what your malfunction is....

    Because I don't know :-(

    The only constant is the texture of my result;
    the pasta is dense, and the surface very smooth.

    In the mouth it has a texture I would describe
    as "slimy leather".


    Funny, this is the apt description of how most restaurant home-made raviolis
    I've tasted in New Haven, CT: smooth surface, dense, slimy leather -- but
    good.
    Dee Dee

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    Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes


    on the

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    packet. From there you can experiment to get where you


    wish to be.

    Quoted message said:
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    Quoted message said:

    I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
    You don't really say what your malfunction is....

    Because I don't know :-(

    The only constant is the texture of my result;
    the pasta is dense, and the surface very smooth.

    In the mouth it has a texture I would describe
    as "slimy leather".


    Funny, this is the apt description of how most restaurant


    home-made

    Quoted message said:

    raviolis I've tasted in New Haven, CT: smooth surface,


    dense, slimy

    Quoted message said:

    leather -- but good.
    Dee Dee

    I make my homemade pasta (and a FUN mess) with semolina flour.

    I usually add tumeric to golden up on the color appeal.

    Andy

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    > Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes


    on the

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    > packet. From there you can experiment to get where you


    wish to be.

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    > I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
    > You don't really say what your malfunction is....

    Because I don't know :-(

    The only constant is the texture of my result;
    the pasta is dense, and the surface very smooth.

    In the mouth it has a texture I would describe
    as "slimy leather".


    Funny, this is the apt description of how most restaurant


    home-made

    Quoted message said:

    raviolis I've tasted in New Haven, CT: smooth surface,


    dense, slimy

    Quoted message said:

    leather -- but good.
    Dee Dee

    I make my homemade pasta (and a FUN mess) with semolina flour.

    I usually add tumeric to golden up on the color appeal.

    Andy

    I've noticed in markets now "pasta flour" which is probably 1/2-1/2
    semolina. But I can't say for sure. I have some in my freezer, but haven't
    tried it yet.

    But THANK YOU for the tumeric suggestion. I'm always looking for another
    way to use tumeric. It's so good for you. Not only that, I like the funky
    taste.
    Dee Dee

  15. Unfortunately, I've never tasted pasta in Italy so I cannot make a
    comparison with my home made pasta. However, I've used both semolina and
    regular flour (US flour - I use Canadian flour for bread making) and have
    had success with both. I don't have the slimy leather texture, which I
    would think was a good thing (perhaps I need to visit New Haven, CT ;o).
    When I make pasta I use only one type of flour. I've always understood
    pasta to be made with semolina until I recently read the Cook's Illustrated
    book on pasta and tried the flour type (his semolina pasta has a combination
    of both flours). I prefer the semolina but it's a close call. Perhaps if
    you elaborate, the recipe you use, how long do you knead, do you let it sit
    etc..? As for the appliance, I use the KitchenAid pasta attachments. It's
    great having both hands free to manipulate the sheets.

    Carole

    "bugbear" <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    A while ago (hell - it's a year) I posted a question
    about pasta making.

    I'm still failing.

    Has anyone been to Northern Italy (e.g. Florence,
    but I imagine Tuscany in general) enjoyed the local
    soft-textured pasta, then returned to dear old
    Blighty, and

    *successfully reproduced the pasta at home* ?

    I have one of these:


    http://www.sharpknives.com/gourmets_toolbox_pages/imperia_pasta_machine.htm

    Quoted message said:

    Which should help with part of the processs.

    Yours in hungry anticipation...

    BugBear

  16. "Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I make my homemade pasta (and a FUN mess) with semolina flour.

    I usually add tumeric to golden up on the color appeal.

    Andy

    I've noticed in markets now "pasta flour" which is probably 1/2-1/2
    semolina. But I can't say for sure. I have some in my freezer, but
    haven't tried it yet.

    But THANK YOU for the tumeric suggestion. I'm always looking for
    another way to use tumeric. It's so good for you. Not only that, I
    like the funky taste.
    Dee Dee

    It's GOOD for you??? I had nary a clue.

    The amount I add, usually two teaspoons to a 3 cup semolina batch,
    doesn't really figure into the flavor, well after adding marinara sauce
    and parmesan cheese, anyways.

    It's not worth it if you combine the s'ghetti with marinara and paremsan
    prior to serving.

    Andy

  17. Quoting from message <[email hidden]>
    posted on 17 Oct 2005 by Andy
    I would like to add:

    Quoted message said:

    "Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    But THANK YOU for the tumeric suggestion. I'm always looking for
    another way to use tumeric. It's so good for you. Not only that, I
    like the funky taste.
    Dee Dee

    It's GOOD for you??? I had nary a clue.

    Aids digestion, is anti-inflamatory, *probably* anti-cancer and liver
    protective, *possibly* assists in lowering cholesterol levels and
    warding off Altzheimers, according to various reports.

    Has been used for centuries in Ayurvedic (?sp) Medicine.

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  18. Dumbdora said:


    I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian

    That means you reproduced with a donkey.

    Sheldon

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    Quoted message said:
    Pandora said:


    I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian 🙂

    Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)

    BugBear

    I have posted many recipes with fresh eggs pasta! For example Fettuccine
    with porcini mushrooms and "little guitar with zucchini's flowers". Haven't
    you seen them?
    tell me!
    cheers
    pandora

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    Quoted message said:
    Ophelia said:

    "bugbear" <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Pandora wrote:

    >I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian 🙂

    Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)

    Bugbear, if you have had success making it in Italy

    I have had success only in EATING the pasta
    in Italy (and a great deal of pleasure, I might add)

    Quoted message said:

    but not in UK may I
    suggest the flour is the difference. You can buy 00 flour in UK in
    supermarkets

    I have used both '0' and '00' flour
    with no improvement; indeed, with no detectable
    change.

    Whatever I'm doing wrong, it's a strong enough
    factor to outweigh other factors :-(

    How many eggs do you put? You must put 1 big egg every hg. of flour. If you
    want you can add 1 tbs of olive oil. 00 flour is OK!
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:

    BugBear

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