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  1. Blaine's low-carb kitchen was a popular show among many but apparently not
    popular enough to keep it from being renewed.

    The forum at FitTV where folks could discuss the show was immensely popular
    for a long time. Blaine announced he had lost fifty pounds and wanted to
    lose fifty more. That was back in the fall of 2004. The shows were taped
    during the Summer and Fall of 2004.

    Blaine Jelus himself was a regular poster to the forums which really allowed
    fans of the show to ask individual questions about his recipes and progress.
    The show featured Blaine interacting a lot with friends and his family which
    includes three small children.

    Unfortunately, Blaine suddenly stopped posting to the forum in April 2005
    without any explanation at all to his many fans. To this day no ones knows
    how Blaines battle with the last fifty pounds he wanted to lose is going.
    Even if the show was not going to be renewed by FitTV many posters to the
    forum felt Blaine Jelus could still have posted to the forum and let people
    know how he's doing. Some have reached the conclusion he just doesn't give
    a hoot anymore about any of it. Perhaps we'll never know.

    Blaine has done a disservice IMO to low-carbers everywhere (and potential
    low-carbers) by not letting people know how he's doing when he obviously
    has a mechanism to do so. The "first fifty pounds" came of relatively
    quickly for a 300 pound man. Now the critical question remains: How does
    Blaine fare when he continues to eat his delicious recipes paying little
    regard to calories and still lose weight. To his credit, exercise was
    always part of the show. But most so his recipes are loaded with calories
    and he made it no secret telling audience he eats those recipes every day.

    It was critical for people to see how he did when the going got rough. Every
    weigh in for Blaine showed a weight loss although his very last show it had
    slowed to half a pound a week. No problem but it would have been
    constructive to see how Blaine handled a week where he lost no weight or
    actually gained a pound or two.

    FitTv runs this series two and sometimes three times a day. Repeats have
    been going on for almost a year. Blaine has dropped off the face of the
    earth with nary a word. Why? Did he stop losing? Did he decide the diet
    was unhealthy? Did he have a heart attack? Was he just in it for the
    money?

    The show needs an epitaph as many low-carbers experience good weight loss in
    the beginning but many of us have to use different strategies when weight
    loss slows or stops.

  2. Since you say the forum where Blaine posted is at Fit TV, it's entirely
    possible that some portion of his contract and/or termination agreement
    preclude him from posting on their website anymore.

  3. Pookie wrote:
    :: Blaine's low-carb kitchen was a popular show among many but
    :: apparently not popular enough to keep it from being renewed.
    ::
    :: The forum at FitTV where folks could discuss the show was immensely
    :: popular for a long time. Blaine announced he had lost fifty pounds
    :: and wanted to lose fifty more. That was back in the fall of 2004.
    :: The shows were taped during the Summer and Fall of 2004.
    ::
    :: Blaine Jelus himself was a regular poster to the forums which really
    :: allowed fans of the show to ask individual questions about his
    :: recipes and progress. The show featured Blaine interacting a lot
    :: with friends and his family which includes three small children.
    ::
    :: Unfortunately, Blaine suddenly stopped posting to the forum in April
    :: 2005 without any explanation at all to his many fans. To this day
    :: no ones knows how Blaines battle with the last fifty pounds he
    :: wanted to lose is going. Even if the show was not going to be
    :: renewed by FitTV many posters to the forum felt Blaine Jelus could
    :: still have posted to the forum and let people know how he's doing.
    :: Some have reached the conclusion he just doesn't give a hoot anymore
    :: about any of it. Perhaps we'll never know.
    ::
    :: Blaine has done a disservice IMO to low-carbers everywhere (and
    :: potential low-carbers) by not letting people know how he's doing
    :: when he obviously has a mechanism to do so.

    I don't think he's done a disservice to anyone, really. He has a right to
    his private life. Maybe FitTV has done the disservice....

    :: The "first fifty
    :: pounds" came of relatively quickly for a 300 pound man. Now the
    :: critical question remains: How does Blaine fare when he continues
    :: to eat his delicious recipes paying little regard to calories and
    :: still lose weight.

    I saw an espisode recently. While I enjoyed it, it was no suprise to me
    that losing weight would become difficult eating the stuff he was making.
    Sure, he may not gain weight, but losing beyond a certain point was
    definitely going ot be a problem. Blaine's a big guy who likes to eat.
    Anyone who gets up around 300 lbs really likes to eat and having all that
    good food around is going to result in eating too much, even if it's low
    carb.

    To his credit, exercise was always part of the
    :: show. But most so his recipes are loaded with calories and he made
    :: it no secret telling audience he eats those recipes every day.

    And there he made a huge mistake, since he didn't really know if a plan of
    eating high calorie low carb meals would result in him losing the weight he
    claimed he wanted to lose. It's one thing to adopt a plan and lose some
    weight....it's quite another to adopt an eating style and expect your weight
    to drop to a certain level without any effort to eat less. Sure, that may
    work for some here and there, but for us "big" folks who like to eat, it
    takes real work, ie, paying strict attention to what and how much you eat.

    ::
    :: It was critical for people to see how he did when the going got
    :: rough. Every weigh in for Blaine showed a weight loss although his
    :: very last show it had slowed to half a pound a week. No problem but
    :: it would have been constructive to see how Blaine handled a week
    :: where he lost no weight or actually gained a pound or two.

    I don't see why it was so critical....he lost some weight. But expecting to
    lose down to a certain number by simply cutting carbs without cutting food
    consumption is unrealistic. But more importantly, it's a TV show done for
    entertainment and one shouldn't attach any more importance to it than that.

    ::
    :: FitTv runs this series two and sometimes three times a day. Repeats
    :: have been going on for almost a year. Blaine has dropped off the
    :: face of the earth with nary a word. Why? Did he stop losing? Did
    :: he decide the diet was unhealthy? Did he have a heart attack? Was
    :: he just in it for the money?
    ::

    Could be a zillion things. It certainly won't be the first time someone
    backslide on a diet (if that's what happened) and it certainly won't be a
    surprise if he just stopped losing because he was eating too much. It
    certainly would be understandable that he got busy worring about his next
    paycheck, either. As to whether the diet is unhealthy, surely you won't
    leave that up to Blaine to decide for you? I'm sure he was in to for the
    money, though I'm sure he enjoyed what he was doing.

    :: The show needs an epitaph as many low-carbers experience good weight
    :: loss in the beginning but many of us have to use different
    :: strategies when weight loss slows or stops.

    Well, I suspect Blaine with eventually surface and if he's not lost weight
    or has gained, it will be known.

    In the meantime, Pookie, you have us! 🙂

  4. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Since you say the forum where Blaine posted is at Fit TV, it's entirely
    possible that some portion of his contract and/or termination agreement
    preclude him from posting on their website anymore.

    I checked with the moderator of the forums and he said Blaine has not
    checked in because he doesn't have the time. In 9 months he can't find two
    minutes to speak to hundreds of people who religiously watch his show and
    like his style and attitude towardst the low-carb plan? Sounds fishy.

  5. Let's do a thought experiment.

    You are large (300 lbs). You decide to lose the weight, and find a way
    to get paid to do so, like get a TV show that will follow you around
    while you lose, and you can make it a cooking/health show. One of the
    terms of your contract is that you have to post regularly to a bulletin
    board and be nice to the posters there. You do it for the run of the
    contract, and get paid while doing so. The people who are paying you
    don't feel they are getting the return on their investment they would
    like, or they feel the show doesn't fit strategically with their plans.
    Whatever. They decide to let the contract end. You probably feel a
    little crappy about their decision, especially when you were getting
    such great feedback from a few loyal viewers. So maybe you don't want
    to do it anymore, since you're not being paid. Since your a little
    p.o.ed about the whole deal. Thus, no reports.

    My former SO worked at a wrestling league for a while. The wrestlers,
    as part of their contracts, were supposed to interact with fans on the
    league's message boards. When the show got cancelled and the league
    folded, very few of the wrestlers remained on the message board, while
    remained active, even without a league. A lot of them felt bitter about
    the whole experience (a lot of work goes into TV, regardless of
    content). A lot of them would have done it if they were getting paid.

    Deep down, I wonder if a LC cooking show can work on a commercial
    channel. It's not just about drawing an audience. LC has that. It's
    about maintaining an audience. It's about lead in and follow out and
    retention. If Stella gets the axe, I will believe that part of it is
    that he is sandwiched between two LF shows usually ("30 Min Meals w/
    Rachael Ray" on the front and "Calorie Commando" on the back). If
    you're doing LF, and into cooking shows, you don't want to watch George
    Stella cook fatty steaks with butter. And if you LC, you don't want to
    watch the Juan-Carlos Cruz cook mac and cheese (with flour, processed
    american cheese, non-fat cheddar and panko) and tiramisu (lady
    fingers). Yet these two shows are even listed as related on Food TV's
    site. It's like someone there said, "Well, dieting is dieting, so we'll
    lump all the diet shows into an hour." Later they will ask why they get
    no audience carry into Calorie Commando.

    If they wanted to rationalize it, they'd stick a "Good Eats" in the
    middle to transition the audience better. Or a Bob Flay show. Neither
    is really LC or LF, but has stuff that's applicable one or both ways,
    and could carry some audience, making the whole network better. I think
    that's part of the Blaine problem on Fit. Everything else there is LF
    or exercise. Doesn't build.

    For an example of this working, think of NBC back in the Must See
    Thursday era. Friends into something else into Seinfield into something
    else into ER. They managed to get 20% of the TV's that were on to watch
    Just Shoot Me and News Radio as the something elses, just to keep from
    missing the starts of Seinfeld and ER.

    But I think most programming execs are a little vision impared, or
    they'd figure that Stella doesn't belong with Cruz. It doesn't answer
    the question of whether you can keep your lead in from a normal show
    into a LC (or LF) cooking show. Though Rachael Ray continues to go, but
    she's not billed as LF, just as fast (though most are in the LF mold).

    Hollywood

    Pookie said:

    I checked with the moderator of the forums and he said Blaine has not
    checked in because he doesn't have the time. In 9 months he can't find two
    minutes to speak to hundreds of people who religiously watch his show and
    like his style and attitude towardst the low-carb plan? Sounds fishy.

  6. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Let's do a thought experiment.

    You are large (300 lbs). You decide to lose the weight, and find a way
    to get paid to do so, like get a TV show that will follow you around
    while you lose, and you can make it a cooking/health show. One of the
    terms of your contract is that you have to post regularly to a bulletin
    board and be nice to the posters there. You do it for the run of the
    contract, and get paid while doing so. The people who are paying you
    don't feel they are getting the return on their investment they would
    like, or they feel the show doesn't fit strategically with their plans.
    Whatever. They decide to let the contract end. You probably feel a
    little crappy about their decision, especially when you were getting
    such great feedback from a few loyal viewers. So maybe you don't want
    to do it anymore, since you're not being paid. Since your a little
    p.o.ed about the whole deal. Thus, no reports.

    My former SO worked at a wrestling league for a while. The wrestlers,
    as part of their contracts, were supposed to interact with fans on the
    league's message boards. When the show got cancelled and the league
    folded, very few of the wrestlers remained on the message board, while
    remained active, even without a league. A lot of them felt bitter about
    the whole experience (a lot of work goes into TV, regardless of
    content). A lot of them would have done it if they were getting paid.

    Deep down, I wonder if a LC cooking show can work on a commercial
    channel. It's not just about drawing an audience. LC has that. It's
    about maintaining an audience. It's about lead in and follow out and
    retention. If Stella gets the axe, I will believe that part of it is
    that he is sandwiched between two LF shows usually ("30 Min Meals w/
    Rachael Ray" on the front and "Calorie Commando" on the back). If
    you're doing LF, and into cooking shows, you don't want to watch George
    Stella cook fatty steaks with butter. And if you LC, you don't want to
    watch the Juan-Carlos Cruz cook mac and cheese (with flour, processed
    american cheese, non-fat cheddar and panko) and tiramisu (lady
    fingers). Yet these two shows are even listed as related on Food TV's
    site. It's like someone there said, "Well, dieting is dieting, so we'll
    lump all the diet shows into an hour." Later they will ask why they get
    no audience carry into Calorie Commando.

    If they wanted to rationalize it, they'd stick a "Good Eats" in the
    middle to transition the audience better. Or a Bob Flay show. Neither
    is really LC or LF, but has stuff that's applicable one or both ways,
    and could carry some audience, making the whole network better. I think
    that's part of the Blaine problem on Fit. Everything else there is LF
    or exercise. Doesn't build.

    For an example of this working, think of NBC back in the Must See
    Thursday era. Friends into something else into Seinfield into something
    else into ER. They managed to get 20% of the TV's that were on to watch
    Just Shoot Me and News Radio as the something elses, just to keep from
    missing the starts of Seinfeld and ER.

    But I think most programming execs are a little vision impared, or
    they'd figure that Stella doesn't belong with Cruz. It doesn't answer
    the question of whether you can keep your lead in from a normal show
    into a LC (or LF) cooking show. Though Rachael Ray continues to go, but
    she's not billed as LF, just as fast (though most are in the LF mold).

    Hollywood

    Pookie said:

    I checked with the moderator of the forums and he said Blaine has not
    checked in because he doesn't have the time. In 9 months he can't find


    two

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    minutes to speak to hundreds of people who religiously watch his show


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like his style and attitude towardst the low-carb plan? Sounds fishy.

    You make some very good points. You know, I think what's really going on
    here is I made the mistake of "identifying" with Blaine a little too much.
    I am about his weight and size and I really liked his attitude. He made a
    lot of personal remarks about how it feels to be really heavy and he
    expressed his joy often over shedding the pounds. I really was looking
    forward to the show continuing and how Blaine would be showing off his
    additional weight loss. That's what happens when I have been at home for a
    year recuperating from an injury. It's about time to get a job again, and
    maybe a life too. Sigh..............

  7. [email hidden] wrote:
    [snip]
    ::
    :: If they wanted to rationalize it, they'd stick a "Good Eats" in the
    :: middle to transition the audience better. Or a Bob Flay show. Neither
    :: is really LC or LF, but has stuff that's applicable one or both ways,
    :: and could carry some audience, making the whole network better. I
    :: think that's part of the Blaine problem on Fit. Everything else
    :: there is LF or exercise. Doesn't build.

    So, you're saying that Blaine didn't "fit" and "Fit"TV. Us large-sized
    folks tend to have that problem.
    🙂

  8. Pookie wrote:
    :: You make some very good points. You know, I think what's really
    :: going on here is I made the mistake of "identifying" with Blaine a
    :: little too much. I am about his weight and size and I really liked
    :: his attitude. He made a lot of personal remarks about how it feels
    :: to be really heavy and he expressed his joy often over shedding the
    :: pounds.

    I think you're right. I don't know how large Blaine was when he started,
    but I was at 367 lbs when I started and got to eat entire slabs of pork ribs
    (no sauce) while losing weight at the beginning. But now, at 142 lbs less,
    I can't do that. But it felt good being able to eat good food and lose
    weight, while exercising....that's the fun stage of it, IMO. After a while,
    some hard work starts.

  9. Diet failure is the rule, not the exception. So, maybe, he has a problem.
    It would seem best to lay low until one could report something positive.

    "Pookie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

  10. "Diet failure is the rule, not the exception. So, maybe, he has a
    problem.
    It would seem best to lay low until one could report something
    positive. "

    Instant failure? According to the OP he was regularly posting on the
    FitTV forum, continuing to lose weight and doing fine until he just
    suddenly stopped posting. It seems far more likely the show got canned
    because the ratings declined together with the general interest level
    in LC and he either stopped posting at FitTV because he was [censored]
    or else was prevented from doing so by contract. If I were running
    FitTV, I'm not sure I'd want someone who I had to fire continuing to
    have access and post God knows what on my website.

  11. With dieters, no news is bad news.

    -but you may be right

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Diet failure is the rule, not the exception. So, maybe, he has a
    problem.
    It would seem best to lay low until one could report something
    positive. "

    Instant failure? According to the OP he was regularly posting on the
    FitTV forum, continuing to lose weight and doing fine until he just
    suddenly stopped posting. It seems far more likely the show got canned
    because the ratings declined together with the general interest level
    in LC and he either stopped posting at FitTV because he was [censored]
    or else was prevented from doing so by contract. If I were running
    FitTV, I'm not sure I'd want someone who I had to fire continuing to
    have access and post God knows what on my website.

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