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  1. Hi all

    I want to know more about the bicycles, such as what are the suitable size, feature for road bike?
    And what are the other accessories i need to prepare for cycling?

    Thank you

  2. Zhang Li Yun said:

    Hi all

    I want to know more about the bicycles, such as what are the suitable size, feature for road bike?
    And what are the other accessories i need to prepare for cycling?

    Thank you


    Best to get thee to the local reputable bike shop. They would be best to advise what suits your
    budget.Where are you located? We could recommend some shops.

    As well as the bike as a bare minimum you will need a helmet, a pump and a puncture repair kit.

    --
    Cheers LB

  3. also, what kind of riding do you wish to do? here in the country it is ideal for mountain biking

    in the city a faster bike might be better.

    the best feature for good cycling is strong legs! Once you are proficient at riding and have an
    appreciation of the machine you are on and know what you want to do then you will know what to get.
    a good secondhand machine fitted by a reputable bike shop will do. "Zhang Li Yun"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Hi all

    I want to know more about the bicycles, such as what are the suitable


    size,

    Quoted message said:

    feature for road bike? And what are the other accessories i need to


    prepare

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    for cycling?

    Thank you

  4. Luther Blissett <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Zhang Li Yun said:

    Hi all

    I want to know more about the bicycles, such as what are the suitable


    size,

    Quoted message said:
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    feature for road bike? And what are the other accessories i need to


    prepare

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    for cycling?

    Thank you


    Best to get thee to the local reputable bike shop. They would be best to advise what suits your
    budget.Where are you located? We could recommend some shops.

    As well as the bike as a bare minimum you will need a helmet, a pump and a puncture repair kit.

    If it's mainly urban riding you are planning, I would say you don't need a pump and puncture repair
    kit as much as front / rear lights, and a good lock. I would also put mudguards higher on the list
    of necessities too.

    With reasonable tires, punctures should be rare, and service stations has pumps which are
    usually free.
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    DFM

  5. Zhang Li Yun, having spent a considerable amount of time in China, which is where I assume you are from, good luck. I've seen millions of bicycles in China, but I'm yet to see a decent road bike (come to that there aren't many decent roads for riding a good road bike on, but the potential is there). If you live anywhere away from the big cities on the east coast of China, you'll be taking your life into your own hands. The trucks are overloaded and omnipresent, car drivers have no regard for road rules and cyclists are very vulnerable.

    It's sad to see the demise of the bicycle as a means of transport in China. More and more cars are on the road every day and cyclists are gradually being squeezed out of their dominant position on the roads, especially in urban areas.

    I'm sure there are good road bike made in China and it might take a bit of searching to find a manufacturer and sales agent. Then you have the issue of security of your beautiful machine, if you buy one.

    Good luck with your search.

  6. Spider1977 said:

    Zhang Li Yun, having spent a considerable amount of time in China, which is where I assume you are
    from, good luck. I've seen millions of bicycles in China, but I'm yet to see a decent road bike
    (come to that there aren't many decent roads for riding a good road bike on, but the potential is
    there). If you live anywhere away from the big cities on the east coast of China, you'll be taking
    your life into your own hands. The trucks are overloaded and omnipresent, car drivers have no
    regard for road rules and cyclists are very vulnerable.

    It's sad to see the demise of the bicycle as a means of transport in China. More and more cars are
    on the road every day and cyclists are gradually being squeezed out of their dominant position on
    the roads, especially in urban areas.

    I'm sure there are good road bike made in China and it might take a bit of searching to find a
    manufacturer and sales agent. Then you have the issue of security of your beautiful machine, if
    you buy one.

    Good luck with your search.

    China? The original posting is from the Uni of WA...

  7. China? The original posting is from the Uni of WA... [/B][/QUOTE]

    How'd you work that out?

  8. Spider1977 said:

    China? The original posting is from the Uni of WA...

    How'd you work that out?

    er, i mean Curtin U, in WA

  9. "Deep Flayed Mares" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Luther Blissett <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Zhang Li Yun said:

    Hi all

    I want to know more about the bicycles, such as what are the suitable


    size,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    feature for road bike? And what are the other accessories i need to


    prepare

    Quoted message said:
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    for cycling?

    Thank you


    Best to get thee to the local reputable bike shop. They would be best to advise what suits your
    budget.Where are you located? We could recommend some shops.

    As well as the bike as a bare minimum you will need a helmet, a pump and a puncture repair kit.

    If it's mainly urban riding you are planning, I would say you don't need a pump and puncture
    repair kit as much as front / rear lights, and a good lock. I would also put mudguards higher on
    the list of necessities too.

    With reasonable tires, punctures should be rare, and service stations has pumps which are
    usually free.
    ---
    DFM


    You stupid... is essential that you have a hand pump, puncture repair kit and a helmet to
    protect your head. Dont go with out these 3 items. you can go with out it like DFM if your bike
    grows cob web.

    Other things that is good to have is front and rear lights, gloves, lock, foot pump and spare tubes.

    Forget about mudguards they are for geeks.

  10. "Leon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    If it's mainly urban riding you are planning, I would say you don't


    need a

    Quoted message said:
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    pump and puncture repair kit as much as front / rear lights, and a


    good

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    lock. I would also put mudguards higher on the list of necessities


    too.

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    With reasonable tires, punctures should be rare, and service


    stations has

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    pumps which are usually free. DFM


    You stupid... is essential that you have a hand pump, puncture repair


    kit

    Quoted message said:

    and a helmet to protect your head. Dont go with out these 3 items. you can go with out it
    like DFM if


    your bike

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    grows cob web.

    Eh?! Like DFM said, if you are riding in the city, you generally don't need a pump or a puncture
    kit. I carry a pump because I have one and it mounts neatly to the frame. What happens when I get a
    puncture? Tyre goes down and I walk to the train! Carrying a spare tube and some tyre levers (if you
    need them) would be better idea than a pump - servo pumps work fine. If you have presta valves - get
    the tiny presta-to-schraeder adapter. I've never done a roadside puncture repair. I carry spare
    tubes on long rides and find other transport on urban rides (if I puncture).

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    Other things that is good to have is front and rear lights, gloves,


    lock,

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    foot pump and spare tubes.

    Lights for night riding certainly, I only bought gloves when my rides started getting up near
    100k's. But I might have a higher pain threshold (read: stupidity level) than most riders! It's
    actually nice to ditch the gloves every now and then. Lock is only necessary if you leave your bike
    outside. If you have a nice boss (like mine) you can bring your bike into the office! 🙂 Foot pump?!
    Aren't they for lilos down at the beach/camping? I have hand pumps and a track pump. But neither of
    these HAVE to be carried on a ride.

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    Forget about mudguards they are for geeks.


    ...and people who want to stay clean and dry. (Having said that, I don't own any - but then
    sometimes I like to get dirty!) :-)

    hippy

  11. Leon <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Deep Flayed Mares" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Zhang Li Yun wrote:
    > Hi all
    >
    > I want to know more about the bicycles, such as what are the


    suitable

    Quoted message said:
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    size,

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    > feature for road bike? And what are the other accessories i need to


    prepare

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    > for cycling?
    >
    > Thank you
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    Best to get thee to the local reputable bike shop. They would be best


    to

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    advise what suits your budget.Where are you located? We could


    recommend

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    some shops.

    As well as the bike as a bare minimum you will need a helmet, a pump


    and

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    a puncture repair kit.

    If it's mainly urban riding you are planning, I would say you don't need


    a

    Quoted message said:
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    pump and puncture repair kit as much as front / rear lights, and a good lock. I would also put
    mudguards higher on the list of necessities too.

    With reasonable tires, punctures should be rare, and service stations


    has

    Quoted message said:
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    pumps which are usually free.
    ---
    DFM


    You stupid... is essential that you have a hand pump, puncture repair kit and a helmet to protect
    your head. Dont go with out these 3 items. you can go with out it like DFM if your


    bike

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    grows cob web.

    ?????

    I think you tried to insult me, but you wrote it so incomprehensibly that it's hard to tell.

    Like Hippy said, puncture repair kits and pumps are far from essential. I can't recall the last
    time I saw someone patching a tire on the side of the road. Why bother when you can get a tube
    for only $4?
    ---
    DFM

  12. in article said:

    if you are riding in the city, you generally don't need a pump or a puncture kit.

    When I bought my first bike in many years, I asked the salesman about repair kits. He recommended
    what he carried: a mobile phone and taxi fare.

    Shane Stanley

  13. "Spider1977" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    China? The original posting is from the Uni of WA...

    How'd you work that out?

    Looking at the Organisation in the post header.

    If you are using Outlook Express, to view the header, click on the message and go to
    file|properties, then click on the details tab. That will give you fields that can help you see
    where they are posting from.

    Tim

  14. Deeply Flawed Mores said:

    Like Hippy said, puncture repair kits and pumps are far from essential. I can't recall the last
    time I saw someone patching a tire on the side of the road. Why bother when you can get a tube for
    only $4?
    ---
    DFM


    You must mean US$4 judging by the way you spelled "tyre", which is a bit more expensive in the
    nicely-coloured money we use here.

    Me, I always carry a spare tube, pump, and patch kit, whether I'm doing my 4km commute, my 30km
    morning training, a rec ride with my partner, or my occasional 100km+ forays on the weekends. To
    answer your question, if you'd been in Centennial Park (that's in Sydney, Australia) last week,
    you'd have seen me changing a tube then. If service stations were omnipresent and/or public
    transport went where I want, when I want it, at a sensible price, why would there be bike commuters
    in the first place (apart from it's fun and I don't have to jam my 187cm into a tiny bus seat next
    to a smelly tramp [that's "bum" to you in the US] or a kid with a doof-doof Walkman)?

    &roo

  15. Andrew Swan <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Deeply Flawed Mores said:

    Like Hippy said, puncture repair kits and pumps are far from essential.


    I

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    can't recall the last time I saw someone patching a tire on the side of


    the

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    road. Why bother when you can get a tube for only $4?
    ---
    DFM


    You must mean US$4 judging by the way you spelled "tyre", which is a bit more expensive in the
    nicely-coloured money we use here.

    [censored]! One small spelling mistake, and you think I'm a yank?

    Actually I will profess to not having bought a tube for a while (coz I have not had a puncture
    for years), so I guess they cost more now. Either way, good tires and good aim should mean
    punctures are rare.
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    DFM

  16. "Andrew Swan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    You must mean US$4 judging by the way you spelled "tyre", which is a bit more expensive in the
    nicely-coloured money we use here.

    I pay roughly $7 per tube.

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    Me, I always carry a spare tube, pump, and patch kit, whether I'm doing my 4km commute, my 30km
    morning training, a rec ride with my partner, or

    Now, this is possibly one of the most pointless arguments i've had, but... on a 4k commute, when you
    carry a spare tube, why do you need a patch kit too? I could walk the 4k quicker than I could remove
    the tube, find the puncture, scrub it, whack some glue on, wait for it to go sticky, patch it, wait
    a bit more, reinstall tube. Maybe on an out-of-the-way 100k training ride a patch kit is useful, but
    30k's? How far away is public transport for you? I have it good because I ride along a train line,
    but still, there's lots of people with cars and taxi's, buses, trains, trams, boats, planes.. okay
    so I'm getting a little carried away 😉

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    if you'd been in Centennial Park (that's in Sydney, Australia) last week, you'd have seen me
    changing a tube then. If service stations were

    So, Sydney-siders, how far away is the nearest servo and/or train station from Centennial Park?

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    omnipresent and/or public transport went where I want, when I want it,

    Service stations AREN'T omnipresent?!? They always seem that way to me! It can't be much more than a
    2k walk between any servo on _my_ commute.

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    at a sensible price, why would there be bike commuters in the first place (apart from it's fun and
    I don't have to jam my 187cm into a tiny bus seat next to a smelly tramp [that's "bum" to you in
    the US] or a kid with a doof-doof Walkman)?

    Hey, leave the doofers alone!

    hippy | yppih drunk, doofing and proud! (or something)

  17. Shane Stanley said:
    in article said:

    if you are riding in the city, you generally don't need a pump or a puncture kit.

    When I bought my first bike in many years, I asked the salesman about repair kits. He recommended
    what he carried: a mobile phone and taxi fare.

    I was talking to another cyclist while out on the road one day, when I noticed he had no pump nor
    spare tube. So I asked him what he does when he punctures. From his employer he gets free Cabcharge
    vouchers, so thats what he'd use...

    Personally, I'd like to repair the flat so's i can get back into the training ride.

  18. Quoted message said:

    Personally, I'd like to repair the flat so's i can get back into the training ride.

    Given that you have to wait for the glue to dry, how long does it actually take to repair a
    puncture? I would think that if you could fix a hole in 30 mins you would be doing well. Personally,
    $7 for a new tube would be money well spent for me. My time is worth more than $14 / hour.

    *shrug*
    ---
    DFM

  19. "hippy" wrote

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    Service stations AREN'T omnipresent?!? They always seem that way to me! It can't be much more than
    a 2k walk between any servo on _my_ commute.

    On my way to work (by motorcycle, it's 55 kms) I pass two servos, and I work 3 kms from the centre
    of Perth. That'd be a long walk with a flat tyre.

    Theo

  20. "Deep Flayed Mares" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Personally, I'd like to repair the flat so's i can get back into the training ride.

    Given that you have to wait for the glue to dry, how long does it actually take to repair a
    puncture? I would think that if you could fix a hole in


    30

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    mins you would be doing well. Personally, $7 for a new tube would be money well spent for me. My
    time is worth more than $14 / hour.

    *shrug*
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    DFM

    If you carry a spare and a repair kit you have more options.

    You can replace the tyre, then at work/home/destination repair the puncture in under 5 minutes, then
    you have a spare for the next ride.

    Also, if you get a second flat away from public transport/access to taxis etc......

    Tim

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