Sports (deep tissue) massage therapist for Iliotibial Band (ITB) in Manhattan, NYC

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Is it a common symptom to feel pressure in one's knee while
standing with both feet on the ground due to tightness ITB ?

I don't recall experiencing anything special from just standing, but
it's been about a year, and perhaps you have a worse case than mine.

Are you sure it's ITBS, and only ITBS?

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Does anyone know of a good experienced Sports (deep tissue)
massage therapist in Manhattan, NYC who is knowledgeable about
ITB and can relieve tightness in ITB?

My wife is a licensed massage therapist in Manhattan, who does
primarily deep tissue work. She's good, according to the vast majority
of her clients including me when I suffered from ITBS.

OTOH she's only been working a year and doesn't specialize in sports -
though she does end up seeing a fair proportion of athletes and
dancers, as do many LMTs. Maybe you're better off with someone who has
specialized in runners for years, if you can find one and get an
appointment. If you're having trouble finding that person, I can email
my wife's contact info if you'd like.

But are you already rolling your quads and ITB using a foam roller (or
a length of PVC pipe, as I do per Ozzy Gontang's suggestion, if you've
developed some immunity and the foam roller is no longer painful)? In
my experience I believe this self-massage is more effective than having
someone else work on you. I think having both - the roller and
receiving massages - is ideal, I'm just saying that for your time and
money and the possibility of doing it frequently, you can't beat the
foam roller.

"The Stick" is also a good tool, but not as effective for your quads
and ITB as rolling them using your body weight.

And bear in mind that everything's connected to something, and if the
ITB/TFL is tight, well, chances are good something else ain't quite
right either. In addition to rolling the quads and ITB (which I still
do once or twice a week as a preventative measure), I massage hips,
glutes, and hamstrings rolling around on a semi-firm rubber ball. On
the floor for hips & glutes, on a firm chair for hams.

Ozzy's site: http://www.mindfulness.com/of5.asp
newfangled self-massage device: http://www.tpmassageball.com

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Is it a common symptom to feel pressure in one's knee while standing with both feet on the ground due to tightness ITB ?

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not in my experience and opinion and i'm going through itb rehab now.
i could only produce the sympton when stress testing the knee/band via
bending it.

tough to believe 4 different therapist struck out for you coupled with
x-rays revealing nothing unusual. i don't know what you're expecting
but age and general overall fitness/strength is a significant factor in
knee recovery time frames.

check out this listing as these runners see therapist with your problem
daily...

http://www.nyrrc.org/membership/membership_directory/profbus/massage.html

I struck out with the massage therapist is because when I asked the
people at the gym I go to, the director of the spa recommended massage
therapists at the gym. One person took half hour to just find the
knots and did not releive me of the knots and the other gave me a good
feel massage. One thing worse about asking for recommendation is that
everyone tells you that they are great only to the contrary.

Thanks for you input and the link about the massage therapist.
Definitely comes i handy.

Does anyone know where the glutes are located in your body?

On 13 Nov 2005 19:23:01 -0800, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

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I struck out with the massage therapist is because when I asked the
people at the gym I go to, the director of the spa recommended massage
therapists at the gym. One person took half hour to just find the
knots and did not releive me of the knots and the other gave me a good
feel massage.

Sounds like you enjoyed it. Can I give you a "massage"?

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Does anyone know where the glutes are located in your body?

Between your legs.

Thanks for your reply. I did a lot of research before putting up this
post. I have foam roller at home that I had been rolling on it exactly
the way they showed on Ozzy site. But that got too painful when I did
it 3 times a week for 20 minutes on days that I don't work out. I used
to apply a lot of pressure on the sides and the quads. It definitely
helped but was a little too much since I just realised that I needed to
do it only for 2-3 minutes for each body part from the tpmassage web
site u recommended. I definitely don't mind the pain at all but would
disable me the next day for my workout. So I had to take a break from
the foam roller. A friend of mine gave me a wooden rolling handle ( a
wooden handle with the end connect with spaced and connected wooden
beads) that I use on my quads and places that I find knots and that has
helped me a lot too. But like you said I did not know until a few days
ago that I had to work my hips, hamstrings and glutes. I dug my own
hands into the hips and felt a lot of tenderness and pain, which is
when I knew that it was also coming from my hips. I feel better after
digging into my hips but I feel a lot of tingling in the bottom of my
feet after the massage. But since I had to cross over with my own
hands to get to the hips and lower back area, my shoulders and my back
are in pain. But I would like to dig into my glutes and hamstring as
well.

I bought a percussion massager. Will that help? Can I use the foam
roller for my hamstring and hips or do I need a semi firm rubber ball.
Where are the glues located and where is the trigger point for the
glutes?

Thanks for all your help.

On 13 Nov 2005 19:29:25 -0800, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

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I bought a percussion massager. Will that help?

If it's shaped like a HUGE penis, yes.

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I bought a percussion massager. Will that help?

Definitely, if your timbales and cowbells are tight. No, actually I
have no idea what a percussion massager is.

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Can I use the foam roller for my hamstring and hips or do I need a
semi firm rubber ball.

I can't get enough focused pressure on hams or hips with the broad
surface of a foam roller, and I doubt you can but I'm no expert.
There's certainly options beyond rubber balls - you can try a tennis
ball or "The Stick" for instance.

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Where are the glues located and where is the trigger point for the
glutes?

You've heard of Gluteus Maximus, right? And to the side is Gluteus
Medius and, I think but am too lazy to google it, Gluteus Minimus.

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I bought a percussion massager. Will that help?

Yes. I just got HOmedics PA200H massager this summer. I'd been having
trouble with tight ITB, hip flexors, etc. and went to MT, who pronounced
me *really, really* tight - all over. She used the "thumper" and
suggested I might want to get one to use myself at home. They just
happened to be on closeout at Sears for about $15, so it was cheaper
than the foam roller that I had bought a month earlier. I've found I can
work into muscles better with the massager than the roller, which is
awkward to use in certain areas. My massager has adjustable widths to
the heads, which is nice. However, the roller is better for some things.
I probably don't use either as much as I should, but I'm definitely
getting my $15 worth out of massager.

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Can I use the foam
roller for my hamstring and hips or do I need a semi firm rubber ball.

You'll have to be the judge as to what firmness and size ball or other
object to use. If something is really tender, you may want to go easy -
softer ball or less pressure. Smaller balls work into finer areas that
rollers can't get to. My collection now includes golf ball (found while
doing trail work one day), tennis ball, toy footballs (2 hardnesses,
about 5 inches long, but the dimensions work a wider area than tennis
ball), toy softball (harder than a real softball), volleyball (can
adjust inflation for different hardnesses, recommended by my PT as the
right size for my hip flexors), foam noodle (works best as knee pad
while doing stretches), and 6in-diameter foam roller (fairly hard,
recommended by PT). I browse Wal-Mart's toy department until I find the
size ball (cheap) my PT recommended or what seems right. This collection
rivals my fluid container collection 😉.

But two things really helped me with hip flexors: stretching and walking
(or running) for a few hours (or at least not sitting). Things tighten
while sitting. The tight ITB is a side issue that hasn't impacted
running yet, but it will if I don't get ahead of it with more massage
and stretching. Progress is being made.

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Where are the glues located and where is the trigger point for the
glutes?

butt. I've got a book (looked at, but not read yet) on the trigger
points, but I work around until I find a sensitive area. I suppose I
should take the time to read the book, but I haven't gotten that far yet.

Good luck.

Dot

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dot.h@#duh?att.net said:

You'll have to be the judge as to what firmness and size ball or other
object to use. If something is really tender, you may want to go easy
- softer ball or less pressure. Smaller balls work into finer areas
that rollers can't get to. My collection now includes golf ball (found
while doing trail work one day), tennis ball, toy footballs (2
hardnesses, about 5 inches long, but the dimensions work a wider area
than tennis ball), toy softball (harder than a real softball),
volleyball (can adjust inflation for different hardnesses, recommended
by my PT as the right size for my hip flexors), foam noodle (works
best as knee pad while doing stretches), and 6in-diameter foam roller
(fairly hard, recommended by PT). I browse Wal-Mart's toy department
until I find the size ball (cheap) my PT recommended or what seems
right. This collection rivals my fluid container collection 😉.

I've just discovered the "pinky ball," although I haven't tried it yet.

98 cents here - http://tinyurl.com/893m7
Or 5 dollars here - http://tinyurl.com/cfnbk
Might be good for glutes, or hard to reach trigger points for piriformis or
sciatica.

--
Phil M.

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Can I use the foam roller for my hamstring and hips or do I need a
semi firm rubber ball.

I can't get enough focused pressure on hams or hips with the broad
surface of a foam roller, and I doubt you can but I'm no expert.
There's certainly options beyond rubber balls - you can try a tennis
ball or "The Stick" for instance.

A football(on it's side, not the point) is often better than a rubber
ball because it stays firm and covers a broader surface. If you try to
massage small knots with a rubber ball you will likely miss or apply too
much direct pressure. A friend had some glut issues and was using a ball
at first but said the football worked wonders and hurt less.

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Where are the glues located and where is the trigger point for the
glutes?

You've heard of Gluteus Maximus, right? And to the side is Gluteus
Medius and, I think but am too lazy to google it, Gluteus Minimus.

Try http://www.rad.washington.edu/atlas2/gluteusmaximus.html for
pictures and words.

-DF

Dot said:

My collection now includes [...]

Dot, the items you list, together with foam roller and percussion
massager, do not make a "collection" - they constitute a massage
_arsenal_!! :-)