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  1. Andrew B. Chung said:

    Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:

    http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
    how the LORD has reshaped me:

    Instead of a hollow, pretentious, smart-ass, smug, and useless
    'apology', why do you not just show a wee bit of class and get rid of
    the offending signature and be more christian about your beliefs. It is
    not most definitely not christian to keep pushing your religious
    beliefs into other peoples faces, repeatedly.

    TC

  2. Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:

    http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
    how the LORD has reshaped me:

    Instead of a hollow, pretentious, smart-ass, smug, and useless
    'apology', why do you not just show a wee bit of class and get rid of
    the offending signature and be more christian about your beliefs.

    It remains my choice to not be a hippocrite.

    Quoted message said:

    It is
    not most definitely not christian to keep pushing your religious
    beliefs into other peoples faces, repeatedly.

    It remains my choice to continue walking with LORD Jesus Christ.

    Again, would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other
    things like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those
    following this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who have been put off by the signature, my apologies for how
    the LORD has reshaped me:

    http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

    In Christ's love always,

    Andrew
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  3. Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:

    http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
    how the LORD has reshaped me:

    Instead of a hollow, pretentious, smart-ass, smug, and useless
    'apology', why do you not just show a wee bit of class and get rid of
    the offending signature and be more christian about your beliefs.

    It remains my choice to not be a hippocrite.

    Quoted message said:

    It is
    not most definitely not christian to keep pushing your religious
    beliefs into other peoples faces, repeatedly.

    It remains my choice to continue walking with LORD Jesus Christ.

    Again, would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other
    things like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those
    following this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who have been put off by the signature, my apologies for how
    the LORD has reshaped me:

    http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

    In Christ's love always,

    Andrew
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  4. Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:

    http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
    how the LORD has reshaped me:

    Instead of a hollow, pretentious, smart-ass, smug, and useless
    'apology', why do you not just show a wee bit of class and get rid of
    the offending signature and be more christian about your beliefs.

    It remains my choice to not be a hippocrite.

    Quoted message said:

    It is
    not most definitely not christian to keep pushing your religious
    beliefs into other peoples faces, repeatedly.

    It remains my choice to continue walking with LORD Jesus Christ.

    Again, would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other
    things like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those
    following this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who have been put off by the signature, my apologies for how
    the LORD has reshaped me:

    http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

    In Christ's love always,

    Andrew
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  5. Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:


    [cross posting snipped] would you please stop cross-posting this religious
    [censored] to rec.fooc.cooking????????????????????????

    OB Food: Biscuits and gravy for breakfast

    Jill <---who doubts you even read anything here

  6. Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:


    [cross posting snipped] would you please stop cross-posting this religious
    [censored] to rec.fooc.cooking????????????????????????

    OB Food: Biscuits and gravy for breakfast

    Jill <---who doubts you even read anything here

  7. Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:


    [cross posting snipped] would you please stop cross-posting this religious
    [censored] to rec.fooc.cooking????????????????????????

    OB Food: Biscuits and gravy for breakfast

    Jill <---who doubts you even read anything here

  8. Andrew B. Chung said:


    It remains my choice to not be a hippocrite.

    By every definition, you are a hypocrite.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    It is
    not most definitely not christian to keep pushing your religious
    beliefs into other peoples faces, repeatedly.

    It remains my choice to continue walking with LORD Jesus Christ.

    You are walking alone pretending that you are special. Only your
    hypocritical imagination believes that you are walking with anyone.

    TC

  9. Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:

    http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
    how the LORD has reshaped me:

    Instead of a hollow, pretentious, smart-ass, smug, and useless
    'apology', why do you not just show a wee bit of class and get rid of
    the offending signature and be more christian about your beliefs. It is
    not most definitely not christian to keep pushing your religious
    beliefs into other peoples faces, repeatedly.

    TC

    Stay on topic, please. Attacking the people who post messages rather
    than the arguments they present only serves to destroy any shred of
    credibility you may have.

    Krane

  10. On 18 Nov 2005 08:07:45 -0800, [email hidden] Huffed and Puffed
    the following into the madness of usenet:

    Quoted message said:


    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:

    http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
    how the LORD has reshaped me:

    Instead of a hollow, pretentious, smart-ass, smug, and useless
    'apology', why do you not just show a wee bit of class and get rid of
    the offending signature and be more christian about your beliefs. It is
    not most definitely not christian to keep pushing your religious
    beliefs into other peoples faces, repeatedly.

    TC

    anyone dumb enough to follow chung's cult advise on his fake diabetic
    cure is one of the suckers P.T. Barnum wrote about.

  11. Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:


    It remains my choice to not be a hippocrite.

    By every definition, you are a hypocrite.

    Oops, sorry about the misspelling.

    ***********************************************************************
    WEBSTER'S NEW UNIVERSAL UNABRIDGED DICTIONARY
    ***********************************************************************

    hypocrite:

    1.a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs,
    principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a
    person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
    2.a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude,
    esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her
    public statements.

    ***********************************************************************

    As for (1), it remains my choice to not pretend and to continue to
    write truthfully.

    As for (2), it should be clear to the most casual observer that my
    choice to be openly Christian has not been met with public approval.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It is
    not most definitely not christian to keep pushing your religious
    beliefs into other peoples faces, repeatedly.

    It remains my choice to continue walking with LORD Jesus Christ.

    You are walking alone

    It seems you are blind.

    Quoted message said:

    pretending that you are special.

    We all have GOD's gift of free will.

    Quoted message said:

    Only your
    hypocritical imagination believes that you are walking with anyone.

    It remains my choice to continue placing my faith and hope in GOD and
    devote my life here in the world to Him.

    Again, would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other
    things like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those
    following this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who have been put off by the signature, my apologies for how
    the LORD has reshaped me:

    http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

    In Christ's love always,

    Andrew
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  12. On 18 Nov 2005 11:09:19 -0800, [email hidden] Huffed and Puffed
    the following into the madness of usenet:

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:

    http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
    how the LORD has reshaped me:

    Instead of a hollow, pretentious, smart-ass, smug, and useless
    'apology', why do you not just show a wee bit of class and get rid of
    the offending signature and be more christian about your beliefs. It is
    not most definitely not christian to keep pushing your religious
    beliefs into other peoples faces, repeatedly.

    TC

    Stay on topic, please. Attacking the people who post messages rather
    than the arguments they present only serves to destroy any shred of
    credibility you may have.

    Krane

  13. ***********************************************************************

    WEBSTER'S NEW UNIVERSAL UNABRIDGED DICTIONARY
    ***********************************************************************

    hypocrite:

    1.a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs,

    principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a
    person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
    2.a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude,
    esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her
    public statements.

    also see: Andrew Chung

    ***********************************************************************

  14. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> looking for trouble wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:


    [cross posting snipped] would you please stop cross-posting this
    religious [censored] to rec.fooc.cooking????????????????????????

    OB Food: Biscuits and gravy for breakfast

    Jill <---who doubts you even read anything here

    Ditto from me

    Michael <- greasy eggs, bacon and bagel for breakfast.

    --
    ....Bacteria: The rear entrance to a cafeteria.

    All gramatical errors and misspellings due to Ramsey the cyber kitten. He
    now owns all keyboards and computing devices in the household and has the
    final say on what is, or is not, posted.
    Send email to dog30 at charter dot net

  15. AHHH, I LOVE A GOOD TROLL!!! Especially one who thinks that adding MD
    to the end of his name and spouting inaccurate [censored] he read in
    gossip rags will make him more believable!

    Gweebles

  16. It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
    article <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
    how the LORD has reshaped me:

    Instead of a hollow, pretentious, smart-ass, smug, and useless
    'apology', why do you not just show a wee bit of class and get rid of
    the offending signature and be more christian about your beliefs.

    Quoted message said:

    It remains my choice to not be a hippocrite.

    Were you judging horses at the same time Michael Brown was? He got a
    FEMA appointment out of his experience.
    --
    Don Kirkman

  17. Ma¢k said:

    anyone dumb enough to follow chung's cult advise on his fake diabetic
    cure is one of the suckers P.T. Barnum wrote about.

    P. T. Barnum never said what you think he did. David Hannum, a Syracuse
    banker, did.

  18. Don Kirkman said:

    It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
    article <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
    > Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    > like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    > this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
    > how the LORD has reshaped me:

    Instead of a hollow, pretentious, smart-ass, smug, and useless
    'apology', why do you not just show a wee bit of class and get rid of
    the offending signature and be more christian about your beliefs.

    Quoted message said:

    It remains my choice to not be a hippocrite.

    Were you judging horses at the same time Michael Brown was?

    No.

    Truth is simple.

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
    how the LORD has reshaped me:

    http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

    In Christ's love always,

    Andrew
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  19. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

    || As for (1), it remains my choice to not pretend and to continue to
    || write truthfully.
    ||
    || As for (2), it should be clear to the most casual observer that my
    || choice to be openly Christian has not been met with public approval.

    I for one really don't think you're intentionally a hypocrite. I think
    you're just truly ignorant of how Christ expects Christians to behave,
    self-deluded and out of the Will of God.

    Jesus never annoyed people with his preaching. He preached to his
    followers. He drew people unto him with his kind, loving, caring spirit.
    People flocked to hear his infinitely wise words and parables; those who
    heard told others and they also gathered around. You on the other hand,
    force yourself in where you are not wanted. You try to convert people with
    words that are ... just words, because the Spirit of God is not behind
    them. They are spoken with a lack of genuine humility; you exhibit a need
    to draw attention to yourself by using the name of Jesus. You drive people
    away from Christ rather than draw them in.

    If you truly wanted to spread the Word, you could start your own
    newsgroup --or join one already established -- that has as its purpose the
    preaching of the Gospel. I doubt you would do this however, because you
    really don't have a strong faith in God; you can't imagine that He would
    lead the people to your own newsgroup that would need and want to hear your
    words. So instead, in your weakness and in the flesh you wallow outside of
    God's will, trolling other newsgroups and driving people away from the
    Gospel. Jesus never annoyed anyone or gave falsely humble words as you
    consistently do (e.g. "Ouch! Have at the other cheek!" or "I'm sorry that
    my being openly Christian offends you." These are empty catchphrases that
    show absolutely no humility. A true Christian would do everything in his
    power to stop annoying people if they indicated they were offended. And a
    true Christian would be repentant and ask God's forgiveness for these
    offenses, he would not shrug those offenses off with self-mitigating quips.
    Righteouness comes from God, and the truly righteous do not need to point it
    out to everyone -- it is readily seen in their Godly lives and genuinely
    spiritual words.

    A true Christian is revealed by his works. Your works are yielding hatred
    and resentment in these newsgroups. And when someone points this out you
    falsely counter this with empty repartées, rather than apologizing for your
    actions and stopping the offensive behavior. Note that you NEVER apologize
    for your decidedly un-Christlike behavior, rather you say that you are sorry
    that the reader is offended by your words. This is a lie, you are not sorry
    for your behavior, you are being flip and trying to defend the bad manner in
    which you conduct yourself. Lies are born of satan whether they be
    spoken -- or in your case -- implied through actions. You need to confess
    your sins in the secrecy of your prayer closet, ask for God's forgiveness
    and stop the behaviors that are turning people off to Christ. You are as
    the Pharisees who wore their religion on their sleeves. And we know what
    Jesus thought of the Pharisees and their public display of religion. The
    only time in the Bible when Jesus displayed anger was when He drove the
    Pharisees out of the temple.

    But you will not listen to these words. Your heart has not yet been
    convicted by the Holy Spirit, and you will not listen to Him. You only
    think of youself, of your fleshly need to draw attention to yourself. You
    will go on annoying, irritating, offending in the name of Christ. How sad
    this must make Him! Maybe someday your will realize what you are doing,
    will repent, will stop the bad behaviors, and will enjoy a real ministry of
    the Gospel.

    As a role model, look at the incredible worldwide respect that Mother
    Theresa has garnered, and how God's love shines through her. Look how God
    uses her as His vessel. Her works are good and pure. She has a servant's
    heart, as did Jesus. You, Andrew, do not have that servant's heart -- just
    a false humility -- and therein lies the crux of your lack of effectiveness
    as a minster of the Gospel.

    Once again, true Christians do not annoy nor offend nor draw attention unto
    themselves. You need to repent, ask God's forgiveness and stop the behavior
    that is turning people off to Him.

    Otherwise, I fear you may someday find yourself among those of whom the
    Jesus spoke in Matthew 7:22-23 --
    "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied
    in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your
    name?' "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me,
    you who practice lawlessness!'

    Do you see yourself now Andrew? You continue to practice the lawlessness of
    trolling in Usenet newsgroups, illegally crossposting and posting off-topic
    subjects without marking them as such -- and yet you continually cry "Lord,
    Lord!"

    Fear God, and repent, lest the day comes you hear those fearful words
    spoken.

    --
    Peter

  20. Marengo said:


    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

    || As for (1), it remains my choice to not pretend and to continue to
    || write truthfully.
    ||
    || As for (2), it should be clear to the most casual observer that my
    || choice to be openly Christian has not been met with public approval.

    I for one really don't think you're intentionally a hypocrite.

    Actually, no one is intentionally a hypocrite.

    Quoted message said:

    I think
    you're just truly ignorant of how Christ expects Christians to behave,
    self-deluded and out of the Will of God.

    Your thoughts are your own.

    Quoted message said:

    Jesus never annoyed people with his preaching.

    Actually, it is written that many were so angry at the LORD that they
    tried many times to seize Him to slay Him.

    Quoted message said:

    He preached to his
    followers. He drew people unto him with his kind, loving, caring spirit.

    There were also those drawn out of their hatred for Him.

    Quoted message said:

    People flocked to hear his infinitely wise words and parables;

    Others came to heckle Him.

    Quoted message said:

    those who
    heard told others and they also gathered around.

    Others came to test Him.

    Quoted message said:

    You on the other hand,
    force yourself in where you are not wanted.

    The force you feel comes from the LORD.

    Quoted message said:

    You try to convert people with
    words that are ... just words,

    They are His words.

    Quoted message said:

    because the Spirit of God is not behind
    them.

    Actually the force you feel is the Holy Spirit.

    Quoted message said:

    They are spoken with a lack of genuine humility;

    It remains my choice to continue walking with the LORD, Whom I love with
    all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-)

    In turn, the LORD guides me in all that I say, do, or write.

    Quoted message said:

    you exhibit a need
    to draw attention to yourself by using the name of Jesus.

    The LORD provides for all my needs.

    Quoted message said:

    You drive people
    away from Christ rather than draw them in.

    Those who belong to Christ are not driven away by His words.

    Quoted message said:

    If you truly wanted to spread the Word, you could start your own
    newsgroup

    The LORD guides me in all that I say, do, or write.

    Quoted message said:

    --or join one already established -- that has as its purpose the
    preaching of the Gospel. I doubt you would do this however, because you
    really don't have a strong faith in God;

    Those who have tried to slay me know otherwise.

    Quoted message said:

    you can't imagine that He would
    lead the people to your own newsgroup that would need and want to hear your
    words.

    The words are His and not mine.

    Quoted message said:

    So instead, in your weakness and in the flesh you wallow outside of
    God's will, trolling other newsgroups and driving people away from the
    Gospel.

    Again, those who belong to the LORD know His voice.

    Quoted message said:

    Jesus never annoyed anyone

    Actually, those who did not belong to the LORD hated Him just as they do
    now.

    "They will hate you just as they hated me." --LORD Jesus Christ

    Quoted message said:

    or gave falsely humble words as you
    consistently do (e.g. "Ouch! Have at the other cheek!" or "I'm sorry that
    my being openly Christian offends you." These are empty catchphrases that
    show absolutely no humility. A true Christian would do everything in his
    power to stop annoying people if they indicated they were offended.

    A true Christian keeps his/her eyes on the LORD and not on the
    countenance of others.

    Quoted message said:

    And a
    true Christian would be repentant and ask God's forgiveness for these
    offenses, he would not shrug those offenses off with self-mitigating quips.

    A true Christian looks to the LORD for guidance in all matters.

    Quoted message said:

    Righteouness comes from God, and the truly righteous do not need to point it
    out to everyone --

    -- because they are like lamps that glow uncovered.

    Quoted message said:

    it is readily seen in their Godly lives and genuinely
    spiritual words.

    .... and in the hatred that is stirred up in those who hated the LORD
    first.

    Quoted message said:

    A true Christian is revealed by his works.

    A true Christian is saved by his/her faith.

    Quoted message said:

    Your works are yielding hatred
    and resentment in these newsgroups.

    A true Christian expects this because the LORD predicted it.

    Quoted message said:

    And when someone points this out you
    falsely counter this with empty repartées, rather than apologizing for your
    actions

    Actually, I have apologized.

    Quoted message said:

    and stopping the offensive behavior.

    Identity is not behavior.

    Quoted message said:

    Note that you NEVER apologize
    for your decidedly un-Christlike behavior, rather you say that you are sorry
    that the reader is offended by your words.

    Actually, I have apologized for my shape.

    Quoted message said:

    This is a lie, you are not sorry
    for your behavior,

    Shape is not behavior.

    Quoted message said:

    you are being flip and trying to defend the bad manner in
    which you conduct yourself.

    The LORD continues to guide me in all that I say, do, and write.

    Quoted message said:

    Lies are born of satan whether they be
    spoken -- or in your case -- implied through actions.

    The LORD has defeated satan.

    Quoted message said:

    You need to confess
    your sins in the secrecy of your prayer closet, ask for God's forgiveness
    and stop the behaviors that are turning people off to Christ.

    The LORD has forgiven me of all my sins.

    Quoted message said:

    You are as
    the Pharisees who wore their religion on their sleeves.

    The LORD is not a religion.

    Quoted message said:

    And we know what
    Jesus thought of the Pharisees and their public display of religion.

    The LORD's anger was directed at their hypocrisy.

    Quoted message said:

    The
    only time in the Bible when Jesus displayed anger was when He drove the
    Pharisees out of the temple.

    The LORD drove out the moneychangers and not the Pharisees.

    Quoted message said:

    But you will not listen to these words.

    Without the truth, your words will always be meaningless.

    Quoted message said:

    Your heart has not yet been
    convicted by the Holy Spirit,

    The Holy Spirit comforts and does not convict.

    Quoted message said:

    and you will not listen to Him.

    You are not Him.

    Quoted message said:

    You only
    think of youself, of your fleshly need to draw attention to yourself.

    Those who walk with the LORD think only of Him.

    Quoted message said:

    You
    will go on annoying, irritating, offending in the name of Christ.

    Sorry my choice to be openly Christian bothers you so much.

    Quoted message said:

    How sad
    this must make Him!

    Your hatred does sadden Him.

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe someday your will realize what you are doing,
    will repent, will stop the bad behaviors, and will enjoy a real ministry of
    the Gospel.

    Those who walk with the LORD do it of their own free will.

    Quoted message said:

    As a role model, look at the incredible worldwide respect that Mother
    Theresa has garnered, and how God's love shines through her.

    Each person's walk with the LORD is their own.

    Quoted message said:

    Look how God
    uses her as His vessel. Her works are good and pure. She has a servant's
    heart, as did Jesus. You, Andrew, do not have that servant's heart

    In your opinion.

    Quoted message said:

    -- just
    a false humility

    More opinion.

    Quoted message said:

    -- and therein lies the crux of your lack of effectiveness
    as a minster of the Gospel.

    And more opinion.

    Quoted message said:

    Once again, true Christians do not annoy nor offend nor draw attention unto
    themselves.

    Actually, only the LORD knows who are really true to Him for He is able
    to peer into the hearts of everyone.

    What has the LORD seen in your heart, dear Peter?

    Quoted message said:

    You need to repent, ask God's forgiveness and stop the behavior
    that is turning people off to Him.

    Shape is not behavior.

    Quoted message said:

    Otherwise, I fear

    Those who walk with the LORD have no fear.

    Quoted message said:

    you may someday find yourself among those of whom the
    Jesus spoke in Matthew 7:22-23 --
    "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied
    in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your
    name?' "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me,
    you who practice lawlessness!'

    Do you see yourself now Andrew?

    My eyes remain on the LORD.

    Quoted message said:

    You continue to practice the lawlessness of
    trolling in Usenet newsgroups, illegally crossposting and posting off-topic
    subjects without marking them as such

    In your opinion.

    Quoted message said:

    -- and yet you continually cry "Lord,
    Lord!"

    If that is indeed what you have been hearing, would suggest you inform
    your doctor about your auditory hallucinations.

    Quoted message said:

    Fear God, and repent, lest the day comes you hear those fearful words
    spoken.

    The LORD removes all fear from those who walk with Him.

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
    the LORD has reshaped me:

    http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

    In Christ's love always,

    Andrew
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
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