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  1. Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will not post some
    scientific article about how "bad" it is for me?

    Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be as bad as going
    off my low carb diet and running high blood sugars again. I think at some
    point a person has to take some reasonable risks and I think eating a
    moderate amount of soy products is one I am willing to take.

    The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen negative articles
    about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mary said:

    Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will not post some
    scientific article about how "bad" it is for me?

    Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be as bad as going
    off my low carb diet and running high blood sugars again. I think at some
    point a person has to take some reasonable risks and I think eating a
    moderate amount of soy products is one I am willing to take.

    The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen negative articles
    about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........

    Yep!

    Full of pesticides...

    Eating, drinking and breathing are all hazardous and cause cancer and
    other aweful diseases.

    Let's all just put a bullet in our brains and have done with it eh?

    Me, I'll just stick with a primary diet of fresh meats and fresh
    veggies, cook them the way I damn well please, indulge in reasonable
    amounts of alcohol and enjoy life...

    The stress from worrying about all that [censored] will kill me LONG before
    the food does!

    Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die-t!

    Cheers! :-)
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  3. Mary said:

    Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will not post some
    scientific article about how "bad" it is for me?

    Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be as bad as going
    off my low carb diet and running high blood sugars again. I think at some
    point a person has to take some reasonable risks and I think eating a
    moderate amount of soy products is one I am willing to take.

    The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen negative articles
    about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........

    Fresh produce and fresh meats. Real food. You know, the stuff that
    doesn't come in a box with a label.

    Meat from healthy animals fed good nutritious foods, and raised in a
    clean environment with access to clean water and clean air is extremely
    healthy food. Fish and seafood guarantees freshness. Produce raised
    with the minimum of chemicals and fertilizers, and grown in healthy
    clean soils.

    Beef, chicken, pork, fish are all very healthy foods. There is nothing
    wrong with red meat or pork or chicken fat. Soups made from whole
    chickens or beef bones are some of the healthiest food ever concocted.
    Full of vitamins, minerals, healthy proteins and healthy fats. Real
    butter, real cream, real milk. Pork fat rules.

    Cook your vegetables. Just don't overcook them. The Irish know potatoes
    and they steam them with the skin on, keeping all of the nutrition they
    can in the potatoes.

    All you need to avoid are the fake foods like tofu, margarine, etc. and
    avoid overly processed foods like UHTP milk, pasta, sugars, sodas,
    white bread, etc.

    Eat fresh healthy foods. Freah meats and produce.

    TC

  4. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Mary said:

    Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will not post some
    scientific article about how "bad" it is for me?

    Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be as bad as


    going

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    off my low carb diet and running high blood sugars again. I think at


    some

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    point a person has to take some reasonable risks and I think eating a
    moderate amount of soy products is one I am willing to take.

    The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen negative


    articles

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........

    Fresh produce and fresh meats. Real food. You know, the stuff that
    doesn't come in a box with a label.

    Meat from healthy animals fed good nutritious foods, and raised in a
    clean environment with access to clean water and clean air is extremely
    healthy food. Fish and seafood guarantees freshness. Produce raised
    with the minimum of chemicals and fertilizers, and grown in healthy
    clean soils.

    Beef, chicken, pork, fish are all very healthy foods. There is nothing
    wrong with red meat or pork or chicken fat. Soups made from whole
    chickens or beef bones are some of the healthiest food ever concocted.
    Full of vitamins, minerals, healthy proteins and healthy fats. Real
    butter, real cream, real milk. Pork fat rules.

    Cook your vegetables. Just don't overcook them. The Irish know potatoes
    and they steam them with the skin on, keeping all of the nutrition they
    can in the potatoes.

    All you need to avoid are the fake foods like tofu, margarine, etc. and
    avoid overly processed foods like UHTP milk, pasta, sugars, sodas,
    white bread, etc.

    Eat fresh healthy foods. Freah meats and produce.

    TC

    If I had the time I could post hundreds of links regarding animal products
    and cancers of all kinds. So what you are doing, in reality, is choosing
    which food items YOU consider to be dangerous or not.

  5. Mary said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Mary said:

    Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will not post some
    scientific article about how "bad" it is for me?

    Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be as bad as


    going

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    off my low carb diet and running high blood sugars again. I think at


    some

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    point a person has to take some reasonable risks and I think eating a
    moderate amount of soy products is one I am willing to take.

    The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen negative


    articles

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........

    Fresh produce and fresh meats. Real food. You know, the stuff that
    doesn't come in a box with a label.

    Meat from healthy animals fed good nutritious foods, and raised in a
    clean environment with access to clean water and clean air is extremely
    healthy food. Fish and seafood guarantees freshness. Produce raised
    with the minimum of chemicals and fertilizers, and grown in healthy
    clean soils.

    Beef, chicken, pork, fish are all very healthy foods. There is nothing
    wrong with red meat or pork or chicken fat. Soups made from whole
    chickens or beef bones are some of the healthiest food ever concocted.
    Full of vitamins, minerals, healthy proteins and healthy fats. Real
    butter, real cream, real milk. Pork fat rules.

    Cook your vegetables. Just don't overcook them. The Irish know potatoes
    and they steam them with the skin on, keeping all of the nutrition they
    can in the potatoes.

    All you need to avoid are the fake foods like tofu, margarine, etc. and
    avoid overly processed foods like UHTP milk, pasta, sugars, sodas,
    white bread, etc.

    Eat fresh healthy foods. Freah meats and produce.

    TC

    If I had the time I could post hundreds of links regarding animal products
    and cancers of all kinds. So what you are doing, in reality, is choosing
    which food items YOU consider to be dangerous or not.

    Post them. I guarantee you that each and every one of these studies or
    references come from a biased source. Either from the industry that is
    trying to sell you soy or margarine or from a special interest group
    such as the animal rights activists who try to convince you that meat
    is dangerous. It ain't.

    TC

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mary said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Mary said:

    Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will not post some
    scientific article about how "bad" it is for me?

    Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be as bad as


    going

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    off my low carb diet and running high blood sugars again. I think at


    some

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    point a person has to take some reasonable risks and I think eating a
    moderate amount of soy products is one I am willing to take.

    The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen negative


    articles

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........

    Fresh produce and fresh meats. Real food. You know, the stuff that
    doesn't come in a box with a label.

    Meat from healthy animals fed good nutritious foods, and raised in a
    clean environment with access to clean water and clean air is extremely
    healthy food. Fish and seafood guarantees freshness. Produce raised
    with the minimum of chemicals and fertilizers, and grown in healthy
    clean soils.

    Beef, chicken, pork, fish are all very healthy foods. There is nothing
    wrong with red meat or pork or chicken fat. Soups made from whole
    chickens or beef bones are some of the healthiest food ever concocted.
    Full of vitamins, minerals, healthy proteins and healthy fats. Real
    butter, real cream, real milk. Pork fat rules.

    Cook your vegetables. Just don't overcook them. The Irish know potatoes
    and they steam them with the skin on, keeping all of the nutrition they
    can in the potatoes.

    All you need to avoid are the fake foods like tofu, margarine, etc. and
    avoid overly processed foods like UHTP milk, pasta, sugars, sodas,
    white bread, etc.

    Eat fresh healthy foods. Freah meats and produce.

    TC

    If I had the time I could post hundreds of links regarding animal products
    and cancers of all kinds. So what you are doing, in reality, is choosing
    which food items YOU consider to be dangerous or not.

    Pretty much...

    There is no such thing as a pollution free environment anymore.

    Nowhere, no way, no how......

    Sad, but true.

    Air, water and soil are all contaminated, everywhere.

    All you can do is to do the best you can.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  7. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Mary said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Mary wrote:
    > Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will not post


    some

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > scientific article about how "bad" it is for me?
    >
    > Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be as bad as


    going

    Quoted message said:

    > off my low carb diet and running high blood sugars again. I think


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    some

    Quoted message said:

    > point a person has to take some reasonable risks and I think eating


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > moderate amount of soy products is one I am willing to take.
    >
    > The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen negative


    articles

    Quoted message said:

    > about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........

    Fresh produce and fresh meats. Real food. You know, the stuff that
    doesn't come in a box with a label.

    Meat from healthy animals fed good nutritious foods, and raised in a
    clean environment with access to clean water and clean air is


    extremely

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    healthy food. Fish and seafood guarantees freshness. Produce raised
    with the minimum of chemicals and fertilizers, and grown in healthy
    clean soils.

    Beef, chicken, pork, fish are all very healthy foods. There is nothing
    wrong with red meat or pork or chicken fat. Soups made from whole
    chickens or beef bones are some of the healthiest food ever concocted.
    Full of vitamins, minerals, healthy proteins and healthy fats. Real
    butter, real cream, real milk. Pork fat rules.

    Cook your vegetables. Just don't overcook them. The Irish know


    potatoes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and they steam them with the skin on, keeping all of the nutrition


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    can in the potatoes.

    All you need to avoid are the fake foods like tofu, margarine, etc.


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    avoid overly processed foods like UHTP milk, pasta, sugars, sodas,
    white bread, etc.

    Eat fresh healthy foods. Freah meats and produce.

    TC

    If I had the time I could post hundreds of links regarding animal


    products

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and cancers of all kinds. So what you are doing, in reality, is


    choosing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    which food items YOU consider to be dangerous or not.

    Post them. I guarantee you that each and every one of these studies or
    references come from a biased source. Either from the industry that is
    trying to sell you soy or margarine or from a special interest group
    such as the animal rights activists who try to convince you that meat
    is dangerous. It ain't.

    TC

    I suggest you read "Fit For Life" by Harvey Diamond. There are hundreds of
    references citing many studies by UNBIASED groups linking cancer to the
    consumption of animals and animal products.

    This is not a thread to discuss whether I or you believe that meat causes
    cancer, rather just to show you that there are infinitely more studies and
    evidence that meat is more dangerous than soy and that you are hypocritical
    to bash soy while eating the flesh of dead animals.

  8. So now your agenda becomes clear.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Mary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    This is not a thread to discuss whether I or you believe that meat causes
    cancer, rather just to show you that there are infinitely more studies and
    evidence that meat is more dangerous than soy and that you are
    hypocritical
    to bash soy while eating the flesh of dead animals.

  9. Mary said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Mary said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > Mary wrote:
    > > Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will not post


    some

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > scientific article about how "bad" it is for me?
    > >
    > > Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be as bad as
    going
    > > off my low carb diet and running high blood sugars again. I think


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    some
    > > point a person has to take some reasonable risks and I think eating


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > moderate amount of soy products is one I am willing to take.
    > >
    > > The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen negative
    articles
    > > about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........
    >
    > Fresh produce and fresh meats. Real food. You know, the stuff that
    > doesn't come in a box with a label.
    >
    > Meat from healthy animals fed good nutritious foods, and raised in a
    > clean environment with access to clean water and clean air is


    extremely

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > healthy food. Fish and seafood guarantees freshness. Produce raised
    > with the minimum of chemicals and fertilizers, and grown in healthy
    > clean soils.
    >
    > Beef, chicken, pork, fish are all very healthy foods. There is nothing
    > wrong with red meat or pork or chicken fat. Soups made from whole
    > chickens or beef bones are some of the healthiest food ever concocted.
    > Full of vitamins, minerals, healthy proteins and healthy fats. Real
    > butter, real cream, real milk. Pork fat rules.
    >
    > Cook your vegetables. Just don't overcook them. The Irish know


    potatoes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > and they steam them with the skin on, keeping all of the nutrition


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > can in the potatoes.
    >
    > All you need to avoid are the fake foods like tofu, margarine, etc.


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > avoid overly processed foods like UHTP milk, pasta, sugars, sodas,
    > white bread, etc.
    >
    > Eat fresh healthy foods. Freah meats and produce.
    >
    > TC

    If I had the time I could post hundreds of links regarding animal


    products

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and cancers of all kinds. So what you are doing, in reality, is


    choosing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    which food items YOU consider to be dangerous or not.

    Post them. I guarantee you that each and every one of these studies or
    references come from a biased source. Either from the industry that is
    trying to sell you soy or margarine or from a special interest group
    such as the animal rights activists who try to convince you that meat
    is dangerous. It ain't.

    TC

    I suggest you read "Fit For Life" by Harvey Diamond. There are hundreds of
    references citing many studies by UNBIASED groups linking cancer to the
    consumption of animals and animal products.

    This is not a thread to discuss whether I or you believe that meat causes
    cancer, rather just to show you that there are infinitely more studies and
    evidence that meat is more dangerous than soy and that you are hypocritical
    to bash soy while eating the flesh of dead animals.

    Here comes the animal rights agenda. I figured so.

    TC

  10. The paleo diet folk get into some of this. I gather the body uses quite a
    variety of proteins for various functions, things like neuropeptides, etc.
    The typical proteins found in game meats are different than the body's
    proteins, and thus, safe. However, exotic proteins from foods that had not
    been part of the human diet sometimes match up with the proteins the body
    makes and uses internally. Thus, the exotic proteins are a problem.

    I'm sure someone else will have a better take on this.

    Mary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will not post some
    scientific article about how "bad" it is for me?

    Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be as bad as going
    off my low carb diet and running high blood sugars again. I think at some
    point a person has to take some reasonable risks and I think eating a
    moderate amount of soy products is one I am willing to take.

    The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen negative


    articles

    Quoted message said:

    about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........

  11. [email hidden] wrote:
    :>> > Cook your vegetables. Just don't overcook them. The Irish know
    :>> > potatoes and they steam them with the skin on, keeping all of the
    :>> > nutrition they can in the potatoes.

    Is this to be taken as a recommendation to eat potatoes, TC?

  12. "Mary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    So now your agenda becomes clear.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Mary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is not a thread to discuss whether I or you believe that meat


    causes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cancer, rather just to show you that there are infinitely more studies


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    evidence that meat is more dangerous than soy and that you are
    hypocritical
    to bash soy while eating the flesh of dead animals.


    I have NO agenda at all you retarded troll. I EAT MEAT. I DON"T believe
    it
    is harmful. Period.

    I am only taking issue with the poster who says SOY is dangerous and cites
    one biased study. My point is there are thousands of studies throughout
    the
    years that indicate consumption of ANIMAL PRODUCTS is much more harmful
    than
    Soy.

    Which are all nonsense, by the way.

  13. "Mary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will not post some
    scientific article about how "bad" it is for me?

    Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be as bad as going
    off my low carb diet and running high blood sugars again. I think at some
    point a person has to take some reasonable risks and I think eating a
    moderate amount of soy products is one I am willing to take.

    The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen negative
    articles
    about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........

    Soy ain't bad for ya'. They consume plenty of it in Asia with no apparent
    affects.

  14. Mary said:

    I suggest you read "Fit For Life" by Harvey Diamond. There are hundreds of
    references citing many studies by UNBIASED groups linking cancer to the
    consumption of animals and animal products.

    This is not a thread to discuss whether I or you believe that meat causes
    cancer, rather just to show you that there are infinitely more studies and
    evidence that meat is more dangerous than soy and that you are hypocritical
    to bash soy while eating the flesh of dead animals.

    Well ok, fair enough, I can see that you object to people eating the
    flesh of dead animals. I can understand that.

    I would consider not eating the flesh of dead animals except that I
    can't figure out how to keep them from jumping around on the plate if I
    try to eat them while they are alive.

    Any suggestions?

    Regards

    David

    --

    To email me, please include the letters DNF anywhere in the subject line.

    All other mail is automatically deleted.

  15. Joe you hit the nail on the head! Now to go fix some fried Tofu in Olive
    Oil!

    "Joe the Aroma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Mary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will not post some
    scientific article about how "bad" it is for me?

    Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be as bad as


    going

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    off my low carb diet and running high blood sugars again. I think at


    some

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    point a person has to take some reasonable risks and I think eating a
    moderate amount of soy products is one I am willing to take.

    The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen negative
    articles
    about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........

    Soy ain't bad for ya'. They consume plenty of it in Asia with no apparent
    affects.

  16. "Mary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Joe you hit the nail on the head! Now to go fix some fried Tofu in Olive
    Oil!

    "Joe the Aroma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will not post


    some

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    scientific article about how "bad" it is for me?

    Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be as bad as


    going

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    off my low carb diet and running high blood sugars again. I think at


    some

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    point a person has to take some reasonable risks and I think eating a
    moderate amount of soy products is one I am willing to take.

    The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen negative
    articles
    about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........

    Soy ain't bad for ya'. They consume plenty of it in Asia with no


    apparent

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    affects.

    Soy is great if a man wants to increase the size of his [censored] [censored].

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    <plonk>

  18. J. David Anderson <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote:
    || Mary wrote:
    ||
    |||
    |||
    ||| I suggest you read "Fit For Life" by Harvey Diamond. There
    ||| are hundreds of references citing many studies by UNBIASED
    ||| groups linking cancer to the consumption of animals and
    ||| animal products.
    |||
    ||| This is not a thread to discuss whether I or you believe
    ||| that meat causes cancer, rather just to show you that there
    ||| are infinitely more studies and evidence that meat is more
    ||| dangerous than soy and that you are hypocritical to bash soy
    ||| while eating the flesh of dead animals.
    ||
    ||
    || Well ok, fair enough, I can see that you object to people
    || eating the
    || flesh of dead animals. I can understand that.
    ||
    || I would consider not eating the flesh of dead animals except
    || that I
    || can't figure out how to keep them from jumping around on the
    || plate if I
    || try to eat them while they are alive.
    ||
    || Any suggestions?
    ||
    || Regards
    ||
    || David
    ||
    || --
    ||
    || To email me, please include the letters DNF anywhere in the
    || subject line.
    ||
    || All other mail is automatically deleted.

    ROTFLMAO

    --
    "I am really sorry that it no longer seems possible to have
    honest disagreements on some of the serious issues of our times
    without sinking into rudeness, personal attacks, hyperbole,
    outright lies, and profanity. Obviously, I am a relic from a
    long gone, more polite time." -- Tom, USENET: austin.general

  19. Joe the Aroma <[email hidden]> wrote:
    || "Mary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    || news:[email hidden]...
    ||| Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will
    ||| not post some scientific article about how "bad" it is for
    ||| me?
    |||
    ||| Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be
    ||| as bad as going off my low carb diet and running high blood
    ||| sugars again. I think at some point a person has to take
    ||| some reasonable risks and I think eating a moderate amount
    ||| of soy products is one I am willing to take.
    |||
    ||| The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen
    ||| negative articles
    ||| about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........
    ||
    || Soy ain't bad for ya'. They consume plenty of it in Asia with
    || no apparent affects.

    So then what causes the yellowed complexion and slanty eyes?

    Cuz

  20. Joe the Aroma <[email hidden]> wrote:
    || "Mary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    || news:[email hidden]...
    ||| Is there truly "anything" that I can eat that someone will
    ||| not post some scientific article about how "bad" it is for
    ||| me?
    |||
    ||| Well, guess what? Soy may be "bad" for me but it can't be
    ||| as bad as going off my low carb diet and running high blood
    ||| sugars again. I think at some point a person has to take
    ||| some reasonable risks and I think eating a moderate amount
    ||| of soy products is one I am willing to take.
    |||
    ||| The "only" food items on the low carb menu I have NOT seen
    ||| negative articles
    ||| about are raw vegetables. I suppose those are next........
    ||
    || Soy ain't bad for ya'. They consume plenty of it in Asia with
    || no apparent affects.

    So then what causes the yellowed complexion and slanty eyes?

    Cuz

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