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  1. Planning a trip to the Normandy area of France next May, about 10 days
    cycling. Have been on some ferry sites and the prices they charge are
    ludicrous and bikes do not go free anymore. I live in South Wales so
    have access to the trains - Cardiff - to the South. What is my
    cheapest non flying option? It is in my mind somewhere that a ferry
    does go from somewhere on the south coast at a very reasonable cost.

    All help appreciated.

  2. "nobody760" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Planning a trip to the Normandy area of France next May, about 10 days
    cycling. Have been on some ferry sites and the prices they charge are
    ludicrous and bikes do not go free anymore. I live in South Wales so
    have access to the trains - Cardiff - to the South. What is my
    cheapest non flying option? It is in my mind somewhere that a ferry
    does go from somewhere on the south coast at a very reasonable cost.

    All help appreciated.

    Varies according to time of year and operator. We went to Normandy in May
    and at that time, car with three occupants & three bikes on rear
    towbar-mounted bike carrier, the cheapest was via the tunnel. In the past
    we've also used Norfolk Line and the Sea Cat. It just depended upon costings
    at the time.

    Cheers, helen s

  3. nobody760 said:

    It is in my mind somewhere that a ferry
    does go from somewhere on the south coast at a very reasonable cost.

    I've used Brittany Ferries before, without problems. You can even book
    the bicycle on the ferry online:
    http://www.brittanyferries.co.uk/

    Brittany Ferries is a French company (I think) and, as you might expect,
    the food is excellent.

    Bob

  4. nobody760 said:

    Have been on some ferry sites and the prices they charge are
    ludicrous and bikes do not go free anymore.

    I think the norm is for bikes to go free on ferries - if not pop it in
    a bike bag and carry it on as hand baggage.

    Eurostar take them for free in a bike bag or you can pay £10 and send
    them in advance.

  5. "nobody760" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Planning a trip to the Normandy area of France next May, about 10 days
    cycling. Have been on some ferry sites and the prices they charge are
    ludicrous and bikes do not go free anymore. I live in South Wales so
    have access to the trains - Cardiff - to the South. What is my
    cheapest non flying option? It is in my mind somewhere that a ferry
    does go from somewhere on the south coast at a very reasonable cost.

    All help appreciated.

    Eurotunnel is about the cheapest crossing - assuming that it's realistic to
    get there from Wales and then to wherever you are going in Normandy ... fare
    for passenger + bike is £16 each way. The service runs twice a day and is a
    mini-bus and trailer that goes on the Shuttle train. You cycle to the
    Eurotunnel offices (or I think you can drive and leave your car there) and
    they take you across to the offices on the French side

    RG

  6. nobody760 said:

    Planning a trip to the Normandy area of France next May, about 10 days
    cycling. Have been on some ferry sites and the prices they charge are
    ludicrous and bikes do not go free anymore. I live in South Wales so
    have access to the trains - Cardiff - to the South. What is my
    cheapest non flying option? It is in my mind somewhere that a ferry
    does go from somewhere on the south coast at a very reasonable cost.

    All help appreciated.

    www.transmancheferries.com

    sadly the only route left Newhaven- Dieppe; not fast but cheap, and
    convenient for Normandy. Subsidised by the French government who care
    about not letting their once thriving sea ports wither and die.

  7. nobody760 said:

    Planning a trip to the Normandy area of France next May, about 10 days
    cycling. Have been on some ferry sites and the prices they charge are
    ludicrous and bikes do not go free anymore. I live in South Wales so
    have access to the trains - Cardiff - to the South. What is my
    cheapest non flying option? It is in my mind somewhere that a ferry
    does go from somewhere on the south coast at a very reasonable cost.

    All help appreciated.

    I've just looked at Brittany Ferries Portsmouth-Caen in May and it looks
    like about £40 each, bike free of charge. That's not ludicrous.
    --
    Michael MacClancy

  8. wafflycat said:


    "nobody760" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Planning a trip to the Normandy area of France next May, about 10 days
    cycling. Have been on some ferry sites and the prices they charge are
    ludicrous and bikes do not go free anymore. I live in South Wales so
    have access to the trains - Cardiff - to the South. What is my
    cheapest non flying option? It is in my mind somewhere that a ferry
    does go from somewhere on the south coast at a very reasonable cost.

    All help appreciated.

    Varies according to time of year and operator. We went to Normandy in May
    and at that time, car with three occupants & three bikes on rear
    towbar-mounted bike carrier, the cheapest was via the tunnel. In the past
    we've also used Norfolk Line and the Sea Cat. It just depended upon costings
    at the time.

    I think he means to go as a cyclist ;-)

    John B

  9. John B said:
    wafflycat said:


    "nobody760" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Planning a trip to the Normandy area of France next May, about 10 days
    cycling. Have been on some ferry sites and the prices they charge are
    ludicrous and bikes do not go free anymore. I live in South Wales so
    have access to the trains - Cardiff - to the South. What is my
    cheapest non flying option? It is in my mind somewhere that a ferry
    does go from somewhere on the south coast at a very reasonable cost.

    All help appreciated.

    Varies according to time of year and operator. We went to Normandy in May
    and at that time, car with three occupants & three bikes on rear
    towbar-mounted bike carrier, the cheapest was via the tunnel. In the past
    we've also used Norfolk Line and the Sea Cat. It just depended upon costings
    at the time.

    I think he means to go as a cyclist ;-)

    John B

    just been doing a bit of surfing; as it is That Time of Year;
    Dover-Calais day trip £6 with a bike (now all I need is a trailer!),
    but they don't take foot passengers. And Hoverspeed has folded up on
    that route too. Things are looking grim. How come the tunnel is in such
    dire staits when there is so little competition?

  10. I used Brittany ferries last year when I travel from Portsmouth to St Malo
    on 6 April -- one way only since I was cycle/camping to Spain. No too
    expensive and a return trip would have been "cheaper" ( i.e. less than 2ce
    the single trip). Food was good and the ferry port staff were extremely
    helpful -- they let me wait in their portacabin out of the rain and cold
    wind till they started loading -- and I was first on the ship!

    Food was good and since it was going to be my last night, for several weeks,
    not in a tent, I took a cabin! Bit expensive that but v nice.
    I was travelling before Easter and the fare was appropriately at the "winter
    rate". I think that the cost of the velo was £5 above the foot passenger
    rate. All booked on the internet.

    --
    Trevor A Panther
    In South Yorkshire,
    England, United Kingdom.
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    Quoted message said:
    nobody760 said:

    It is in my mind somewhere that a ferry does go from somewhere on the
    south coast at a very reasonable cost.

    I've used Brittany Ferries before, without problems. You can even book the
    bicycle on the ferry online:
    http://www.brittanyferries.co.uk/

    Brittany Ferries is a French company (I think) and, as you might expect,
    the food is excellent.

    Bob

  11. nobody760 said:

    Planning a trip to the Normandy area of France next May, about 10 days
    cycling. Have been on some ferry sites and the prices they charge are
    ludicrous and bikes do not go free anymore. I live in South Wales so
    have access to the trains - Cardiff - to the South. What is my
    cheapest non flying option? It is in my mind somewhere that a ferry
    does go from somewhere on the south coast at a very reasonable cost.

    All help appreciated.

    Cardiff to Pompey by rail. Direct hourly service. Only downside is that
    the trains can get a bit packed.

    Pompey to Abroad by ferry. I've lost track of the P&O shenanigans and
    think they may have closed their service leaving you with only Brittany
    Ferries.

    P&O was fine IME. Because I'm a tight fisted sod I paid a tenner (IIRC)
    for the Club Class lounge rather than splash out on a cabin. Excellent
    value and it gets you away from the refugee ship conditions with the
    rest of the cabinless masses.

  12. Not Responding said:

    P&O was fine IME. Because I'm a tight fisted sod I paid a tenner (IIRC)
    for the Club Class lounge rather than splash out on a cabin. Excellent
    value and it gets you away from the refugee ship conditions with the
    rest of the cabinless masses.

    So you were the bikie with his nose in the air last Spring.
    Posh git ;-)

    I bet you wear Rapha mitts too ;-)

    John B

  13. John B said:
    Not Responding said:

    P&O was fine IME. Because I'm a tight fisted sod I paid a tenner (IIRC)
    for the Club Class lounge rather than splash out on a cabin. Excellent
    value and it gets you away from the refugee ship conditions with the
    rest of the cabinless masses.

    So you were the bikie with his nose in the air last Spring.
    Posh git ;-)

    Hmmm, reminds me of the ferry Bergen-Newcastle, some years back.

    I arrived on-spec at a busy time. They told me not only cabins,
    but even reclining chairs, were sold out, but I could buy
    passage-only. So I did.

    Having been up in the mountains on a very spartan diet, I indulged
    in my first really good meal for over a week. Later I went up onto
    the highest available deck, found a nice spot sheltered from the wind,
    put two comfy deckchairs end-to-end, and got the sleeping bag out.
    Very pleasant.

    In the morning, chatting to other passengers, it appeared I'd had
    the best spot anywhere on the boat. Those who had paid a great
    deal more for cabins hadn't had anything like such a good night
    as me!

    --
    Nick Kew

  14. Nick Kew said:
    John B said:

    Not Responding wrote:


    Excellent

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    value and it gets you away from the refugee ship conditions with the
    rest of the cabinless masses.

    So you were the bikie with his nose in the air last Spring.
    Posh git ;-)

    In the morning, chatting to other passengers, it appeared I'd had
    the best spot anywhere on the boat. Those who had paid a great
    deal more for cabins hadn't had anything like such a good night
    as me!


    You beat me to it! I was just going to say that I have enjoyed being
    cabinless and refugee like on ferries. It's part of the fun! Not only
    that, you meet people who tell you useful or interesting things about
    your destination.
    Jo

  15. "nobody760" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Planning a trip to the Normandy area of France next May, about 10 days
    cycling. Have been on some ferry sites and the prices they charge are
    ludicrous and bikes do not go free anymore. I live in South Wales so
    have access to the trains - Cardiff - to the South. What is my
    cheapest non flying option? It is in my mind somewhere that a ferry
    does go from somewhere on the south coast at a very reasonable cost.

    All help appreciated.

    Just had a quick look. The site you may be looking for is
    http://www.ldlines.fr/
    who have taken over the Portsmouth/Le Havre run from P&O; they seem to be
    about half the cost of Brittany ferries. Unfortuanatly their online booking
    system is not quoting for next year but if vyou went next week for 10 days
    Brittanny feries would cost £86 whilst LD lines would be £48. The only
    disadvantage is that le Havre is a fairly horrible place to get out of if
    you're heading south.

    HTH
    Julia

  16. Not Responding said:
    nobody760 said:

    Planning a trip to the Normandy area of France next May,

    All help appreciated.

    Cardiff to Pompey by rail. Direct hourly service. Only downside is that
    the trains can get a bit packed.

    Pompey to Abroad by ferry. I've lost track of the P&O shenanigans and
    think they may have closed their service leaving you with only Brittany
    Ferries.

    Also www.ldlines.com taking over the Portsmouth Le Havre route.

  17. Groan ... A summer weekend to Le Havre: 3 adults + 1 child + 1 cabin
    outbound costs
    1. on clean bicycles: £254
    2. in a smelly car: £165

    Why?

    "Al C-F" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:
    Not Responding said:
    nobody760 said:

    Planning a trip to the Normandy area of France next May,

    All help appreciated.

    Cardiff to Pompey by rail. Direct hourly service. Only downside is that
    the trains can get a bit packed.

    Pompey to Abroad by ferry. I've lost track of the P&O shenanigans and
    think they may have closed their service leaving you with only Brittany
    Ferries.

    Also www.ldlines.com taking over the Portsmouth Le Havre route.

  18. Clyde Ingram said:

    Groan ... A summer weekend to Le Havre: 3 adults + 1 child + 1 cabin
    outbound costs
    1. on clean bicycles: £254
    2. in a smelly car: £165

    Why?

    I had the same going to Denmark and they wouldn't even consider my
    suggestion that I paid for a car but left it behind so they could resell
    the space to another passenger. Don't ask me why.

    --
    Tony

    "The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
    right."
    - Lord Hailsham

  19. "Clyde Ingram"
    <[email hidden]> wrote
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    Quoted message said:

    Groan ... A summer weekend to Le Havre: 3 adults + 1 child + 1 cabin
    outbound costs
    1. on clean bicycles: £254
    2. in a smelly car: £165

    Why?


    More wheels?

  20. vernon levy said:

    "Clyde Ingram"
    <[email hidden]> wrote
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    Quoted message said:

    Groan ... A summer weekend to Le Havre: 3 adults + 1 child + 1 cabin
    outbound costs
    1. on clean bicycles: £254
    2. in a smelly car: £165

    Why?


    More wheels?

    Can you do a Scrap Heap Challenge to make four bicycles to look like one
    car for the crossing?

    --
    Tony

    "The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
    right."
    - Lord Hailsham

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