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  1. 7 Melatonin and 6-hydroxymelatonin protect against iron-induced
    neurotoxicity.
    Maharaj DS, Maharaj H, Daya S, Glass BD
    J Neurochem. 2005 Nov 21;

    Oxidative damage of biological macromolecules is a hallmark of most
    neurodegenerative disorders such as Alzheimer, Parkinson and diffuse
    Lewy body diseases. Another important phenomenon involved in these
    disorders is the alteration of iron homeostasis, with an increase in
    iron levels. The present study investigated whether 6-hydroxymelatonin
    (6-OHM) can reduce Fe(2+)-induced lipid peroxidation and necrotic cell
    damage in the rat hippocampus in vivo. It was found that 6-OHM
    administration proved successful in reducing Fe(2+)-induced
    neurotoxicity in rat hippocampus. This study provides some evidence of
    the neuroprotective effects of 6-OHM

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  2. "Oxidative damage of biological macromolecules is a hallmark of most
    neurodegenerative disorders such as Alzheimer, Parkinson and diffuse Lewy
    body diseases. Another important phenomenon involved in these disorders is
    the alteration of iron homeostasis, with an increase in iron levels."

    Just so, the disorders cause the usual control of iron to go out of
    control
    and levels rise,high iron didn't proceed the disorders, a dog and tail
    story.

  3. What part of cold nuts .. caught .. falsifying medical studies .. don't
    you understand .. ?

    Serious .. charge ..

    Speak to it .. you piece of sht ..

    Or .. stay the fk off my posts ..

    YOU .. specifically .. altered medical studies ..

    Explain that ..

    How does that .. fit .. in your mind .. ?

    Does that make you .. mentally .. ill .. ?

    Are you actively working in the medical .. field .. ?

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  4. Hey, Doughnut!

    Quoted message said:

    Are you actively working in the medical .. field .. ?

    Are YOU??? Brahahahahahahaha!!!!

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    Quoted message said:

    What part of cold nuts .. caught .. falsifying medical studies .. don't
    you understand .. ?

    Serious .. charge ..

    Speak to it .. you piece of sht ..

    Or .. stay the fk off my posts ..

    YOU .. specifically .. altered medical studies ..

    Say, Tom... you're not playing fair.

    What exactly did he alter?

    He merely commented on a verbatim quote from the abstract you posted.

    Quoted message said:

    Explain that ..

    How does that .. fit .. in your mind .. ?

    Does that make you .. mentally .. ill .. ?

    I have a feeling that all this stress is making *you* mentally ill, Tom.

    Are you off your meds again?

    Quoted message said:

    Are you actively working in the medical .. field .. ?

    <snort!> You'll show him your "medical field" credentials in return, I
    presume?

  6. KEWL, then maybe you can explain how they can fix a man . Making a pill
    that makes him hotter than AZ in the summer. But they cure not, breast
    cancer, alzheimer or just just about anything having to due with women's
    heatlh. Just wondering
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    Quoted message said:

    Hey, Doughnut!

    Quoted message said:

    Are you actively working in the medical .. field .. ?

    Are YOU??? Brahahahahahahaha!!!!

  7. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Are you actively working in the medical .. field .. ?

    Are YOU??? Brahahahahahahaha!!!! <<

    I don't have to ..

    I don't falsify medical studies ..

    He altered medical studies ..

    He potentially .. is attempting .. to .. KILL .. people ..

    He has been caught .. twice .. spouting KNOWN .. lies ..

    I 'm pretty sure YOU.. don't .. find it .. offensive .. but you and he
    are pretty much cut from the same bolt .. so .. why WOULD you find it
    ... offensive ..

    Hell .. you've probably .. done it ..

    You probably aren't even vegetarian .. just too .. 'picture perfect' ..
    when it comes to your attempts at attacking me .. and the WAYS you have
    used ..

    Like greaseball .. 'makes up' .. medical studies and YOU .. 'just so
    happen' .. to BE .. 'vegetarian' ..

    Eh ..

    Scuse me if I don't .. believe .. ya ..

    Who loves ya.
    Tom

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  8. Quoted message said:

    You probably aren't even vegetarian .. just too .. 'picture perfect' ..
    when it comes to your attempts at attacking me .. and the WAYS you have
    used ..

    Listen, jerk, I have been a vegetarian for over 30 years. How long
    have YOU been one?

    And, just for your information, being a vegetarian does NOT make a
    person sweet and gentle. Adolf [censored] was a vegetarian.

    I attack you and your bogus theories with reason and logic, not the
    obscene gutter language you have such a liking for.

    So stuff it.

    Sylvia

  9. "Sylv" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    So stuff it.

    Sylvia

    [censored]' *A*, Tom.

    What she *said*!

  10. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I attack you and your bogus theories with reason and logic, not the


    obscene gutter language you have such a liking for.<<

    Who you trying to .. fool .. ?

    Me .. ?

    Yourself .. ?

    I place a medical study .. and you .. attack it ..

    Fk .. off ..

    You are too stupid to even bother with ..

    But .. comes with the .. territory you fkd up pce of sht ..

    So ..

    You ":don't like gutter talk" .. then once again .. read my lips ..
    Stay.. The .. FK .. AWAY FRM ME ..

    Dig .. ?
    Unnerstand ..?
    Comfkgprendez .. ?

    PS: [censored] .. was as much a vegetarian .. as you .. are ..

    The following article was written by Roberta
    Kalechofsky, and appeared in the November
    1996 issue of "The Animals' Agenda."

    * * * * *

    In their efforts to discredit animal rights
    activists, supporters of animal research
    periodically proclaim to the media that
    Adolf [censored] was a vegetarian and that
    the Nazis did not engage in animal
    research.

    The implication is that these 'revelations'
    suggest a sinister similarity between Nazis
    and animal rights 'zealots' and serve as a
    warning that animal advocates have an
    anti-human agenda.

    But the real story about [censored] and the
    Nazis is miles from the myth.

    One legitimate response to such claims
    is that it doesn't matter whether [censored] was
    a vegetarian; as Peter Singer said, "The
    fact that [censored] had a nose doesn't mean
    we're going to cut our noses off."

    Biographical material about [censored] suggests
    a contradictoriness in reports about his diet.
    He is often described as a vegetarian who
    nevertheless had a special fondness for
    sausages and caviar, and sometimes ham.

    One of his biographers, Robert Payne ("The
    Life and Death of Adolf [censored]) took exception
    to the view of [censored] as an ascetic, and said
    it was deliberately fostered by the Nazis to
    project an image of [censored] as pure and
    dedicated.

    Wrote Payne: "[censored]'s asceticism played an
    important part in the image he projected
    over Germany. According to the widely
    believed legend, he neither smoked nor
    drank, nor did he have anything to do with
    women.

    "Only the first was true. He drank beer and
    diluted wine frequently, had a special fondness
    for Bavarian sausages, and kept a mistress...

    "His asceticism was a fiction invented by
    (Nazi propagandist Joseph) Goebbels to
    emphasize his total dedication, his self-control,
    the distance that separated him from other men..."

    Biographer John Toland ("Adolf [censored]"😉, describes
    [censored]'s early student diet as consisting of "milk,
    sausage, and bread."

    Moreover, [censored] never promoted vegetarianism
    as a public policy for either health or moral
    reasons. His lack of policies and public
    support for vegetarianism is significant in a
    leader who rigorously enforced other health
    policies, such as anti-smoking and anti-pollution
    legislation, and pregnancy and birthing
    measures for women.

    The rumor that the Nazis passed an anti-
    vivisection law is also filled with contradictions.
    No such law was passed, although the Nazis
    reported that such a law existed. The Nazis
    allegedly passed an anti-vivisection bill in
    1933.

    "Lancet," the prestigious British medical
    journal, reviewed the Nazis' law in 1934 and
    warned anti-vivisectionists not to celebrate
    because the Nazis' law was no different, in
    effect, from the British law that had been
    passed in 1876, which restricted some
    animal research, but hardly eliminated it.
    An enormous amount of research on
    animals continued to be carried out by
    Nazi doctors.

    The evidence of Nazi experiments on
    animals is overwhelming. In "The Dark
    Face of Science," author John Vyvyan
    summed it up correctly:

    "The experiments made on prisoners were
    many and diverse, but they had one thing in
    common: all were in continuation of or
    complementary to, experiments on animals.

    "In every instance, this antecedent scientific
    literature is mentioned in the evidence, and
    at Buchenvald and Auschwitz concentration
    camps, human and animal experiments
    were carried out simultaneously as parts of
    a single programme."

    It is important that the facts be known so
    that the myths about [censored] and the Nazis
    cannot be used against the animal rights
    and vegetarian movements.

    Animal rights advocates should not let
    these false claims appear in the media
    unchallenged. The record must be set
    straight.

    * * * * *

    Roberta Kalechofsky is a writer, publisher,
    and the president of Jews for Animal Rights.

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  11. Quoted message said:

    You ":don't like gutter talk" .. then once again .. read my lips ..
    Stay.. The .. FK .. AWAY FRM ME ..

    Quoted message said:

    Dig .. ?
    Unnerstand ..?
    Comfkgprendez .. ?

    Quoted message said:

    PS: [censored] .. was as much a vegetarian .. as you .. are ..

    Once again, showing your true colors. Did it ever occur to you that
    real medical researchers don't get on Usenet groups and use such
    half-literate, obscene language?

    But at least you have posted something interesting about [censored]. Never
    read this article before. I did know that some do not believe he was a
    true vegetarian.

    I certainly don't have to defend my own vegetarian diet to the likes of
    you, though. I have nothing to prove to losers such as yourself. If
    you are calling me a liar, it doesn't bother me.

    Just like the rabid dog behind the fence barking does not stop me.

    Sylvia

  12. This has nothing to do with Alzheimers. Please leave our newsgroup out of
    this. Thanks.
    Gwen

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You probably aren't even vegetarian .. just too .. 'picture perfect' ..
    when it comes to your attempts at attacking me .. and the WAYS you have
    used ..

    Listen, jerk, I have been a vegetarian for over 30 years. How long
    have YOU been one?

    And, just for your information, being a vegetarian does NOT make a
    person sweet and gentle. Adolf [censored] was a vegetarian.

    I attack you and your bogus theories with reason and logic, not the
    obscene gutter language you have such a liking for.

    So stuff it.

    Sylvia

  13. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This has nothing to do with Alzheimers. Please leave our newsgroup out of


    this. Thanks.
    Gwen
    <<

    Actually .. if you notice in the study .. Alzheimers' .. IS ..
    specifically .. mentioned ..

    Now I don't know how you came about the .. conclusion .. this has
    nothing to do WITH .. alzheimers .. but I will in this case assume it
    is a .. patient who is asking .. and NOT a .. caregiver ..

    So .. I'll talk to you like I would a .. alzheimers .. patient ..

    Oxidation .. bad ..
    Increased oxidation .. very bad ..

    Have a cookie ..

    Who loves ya.
    Tom

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    <<snip>>
    Oxidative damage of biological macromolecules is a hallmark of most
    neurodegenerative disorders such as Alzheimer, Parkinson and diffuse
    Lewy body diseases.
    <<snip>>

  14. Tom;

    Quoted message said:

    So .. I'll talk to you like I would a .. >alzheimers .. patient ..

    Quoted message said:

    Oxidation .. bad ..
    Increased oxidation .. very bad ..

    Quoted message said:

    Have a cookie ..

    You never cease to amaze me.

    Did anyone ever tell you that you are a mean, insensitive waste of
    carbon and water?

    I can't believe what you have just written.

    You are one sorry excuse for a human being.

    Sylvia

  15. FYI- man has never cured a disease in written history. we have
    erradicated, quarantined, vaccinated but never cured. so they can turn
    a man on with a pill, but to cure a disease is new ground. i'm hoping
    it happens soon. for everybody's sake.

    jo

  16. "FYI- man has never cured a disease in written history. we have
    erradicated, quarantined, vaccinated but never cured. so they can turn a
    man on with a pill, but to cure a disease is new ground. i'm hoping it
    happens soon. for everybody's sake."

    What would a "cure" look like if one should occur?

  17. "granola" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    FYI- man has never cured a disease in written history. we have
    erradicated, quarantined, vaccinated but never cured. so they can turn
    a man on with a pill, but to cure a disease is new ground. i'm hoping
    it happens soon. for everybody's sake.

    jo

    Weve cured 100's of diseases. What are you talking about?

    Rob

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    "granola" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    FYI- man has never cured a disease in written history. we have
    erradicated, quarantined, vaccinated but never cured. so they can turn
    a man on with a pill, but to cure a disease is new ground. i'm hoping
    it happens soon. for everybody's sake.

    jo

    Weve cured 100's of diseases. What are you talking about?

    Rob

    I was thinking the same thing.
    Perhaps the person just has an odd way of expressing themself.

    --

    Best Regards,
    Evelyn

    (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox'😉

  19. "Evelyn Ruut" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I was thinking the same thing.
    Perhaps the person just has an odd way of expressing themself.

    --

    Best Regards,
    Evelyn

    (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox'😉

    Evelyn, you're sooo tactful. :-)

    Karen

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    "Evelyn Ruut" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I was thinking the same thing.
    Perhaps the person just has an odd way of expressing themself.

    --

    Best Regards,
    Evelyn

    (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox'😉

    Evelyn, you're sooo tactful. :-)

    Karen

    hee hee!
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    Best Regards,
    Evelyn

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