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  1. Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Wed 30 Nov 2005 09:13:16p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Melba's
    Jammin'?

    Quoted message said:

    How about some melted butter poured and/or brushed on top, then covered
    with foil during baking?

    Given all the things you *don't* want to do or use, this sounds like the best
    idea, and I think it would work. Another thing you might explore is the
    construction, ingredients, and final result of a "noodle kugel". Lots of
    recipes on the web, both sweet and savory. Probably richer than what you
    want, however.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________________________

    A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

    I don't know from "noodle kugel", but I agree with Wayne. If the recipe
    has some moisture to it, a little butter and a foil top would allow it to
    bake without drying out. I have some things that I bake that I can
    sprinkle with a tiny bit of water for moisture and cover with foil. I also
    have a baking dish with a metal rack (solid with slits in it for letting
    meat juices drain away from meat) that I use for all kinds of recipes. I
    put a little water in the bottom, put the food on the rack and cover with
    foil. It bakes, but it produces enough steam to keep the food moist.

    Elaine, too

  2. "Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dimitri said:

    "Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Dimitri" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    <Snip>

    Quoted message said:

    > I think you may need a little more liquid - Reason as the egg sets
    > you'll have the equivalent of baked cheese. Really you are the
    > judge of the texture you're looking for. If you don't want to
    > smear it with sour cream then what about adding some heavy cream
    > (perhaps a dust of nutmeg for sweetness) to the cheese & egg
    > mixture.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Puke. I ain't makin' blintzes, Sweetheart!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Keep us up to date on the results.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Dimitri

    Is the puke for the cream or Nutmeg or both?

    Quoted message said:

    Dimitri

    LOL! Yes. <vbseg>
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 11-28-05 - Sam I Am! and Hello

    OK.

    Dimitri

    Cream of Onion Soup -
    From The Enchanted Broccoli Forest, Mollie Katzen

    2 cups milk
    1 Tbs. Butter or canola oil
    5 cups minced onion
    2 tsp. Dry mustard
    1-1/2 tsp. Salt
    2 Tbs. White flour
    3 cups water
    a few dashes Worcestershire sauce
    1 tsp. Prepared horseradish
    nutmeg, to taste
    white pepper, to taste
    cayenne, to taste
    toppings: croutons, minced red bell pepper

    Heat the milk slowly in a heavy saucepan over very low heat, until it just
    reaches the boiling point. Remove from heat. Meanwhile, melt the butter or heat
    the oil in a soup pot or Dutch oven. Add the onion, mustard, and salt. Stir,
    cover, and cook over low heat until the onions are very soft (about 15 minutes).
    Stir constantly as you sprinkle in the flour. Add water, hot milk,
    Worcestershire sauce, and horseradish; season to taste with small amounts of
    nutmeg, white pepper, and cayenne. Serve hot, topped with croutons and a
    sprinkling of minced red pepper.

    Easy Homemade Croutons:
    4 slices of good bread
    2 -3 Tbs. Butter or olive oil

    Preheat oven to 325( F. Cut the bread into 1/2 inch cubes. Heat a heavy skillet;
    add butter or olive oil. Sauté the bread cubes for 5 to 8 minutes, or until they
    begin to brown. Spread the cubes on a baking tray, and bake until crunchy (10 to
    15 minutes).

    - Updated: March 14, 2005

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob (this one) said:

    Could work. But it sounds uninteresting. Why are you committed to this dish?

    Pastorio

    Cuz I'm listening to K.D. Lang and I'm a wanting that "Hallelujah"
    experience. "-)
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 11-28-05 - Sam I Am! and Hello

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob (this one) said:

    Could work. But it sounds uninteresting. Why are you committed to this dish?

    Why do people climb a mountain? Because it's there.

    I don't understand the point of what she is doing, and I won't
    participate in helping with advice, but I admire the fact that she has
    decided what she wants and is going for it.

    Reminds me of a movie I watched many years ago, called "Nasty Girl":

    http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/movie.html?v_id=34477

    The main character decided what she wanted to do, and did it, despite a
    lot of obstructions and trouble along the way.

    --
    Dan Abel
    [email hidden]
    Petaluma, California, USA

  5. Melba's Jammin said:

    I've been up to me [censored] in egg noodle dough since Sunday. I want to use
    my cottage cheese pirohy filling (dry cottage cheese, onion, dill weed,
    maybe some sour cream, maybe an egg -- depends on) with wide strips of
    thin dough in one way or another -- either layered, similar to lasagne
    (and don't even think about calling this a pierogi casserole, ok? Just
    DON'T)

    I would never dream of it! This is a pierogi hotdish, of course!

    Carol

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Damsel in dis Dress said:
    Melba's Jammin said:

    I've been up to me [censored] in egg noodle dough since Sunday. I want to use
    my cottage cheese pirohy filling (dry cottage cheese, onion, dill weed,
    maybe some sour cream, maybe an egg -- depends on) with wide strips of
    thin dough in one way or another -- either layered, similar to lasagne
    (and don't even think about calling this a pierogi casserole, ok? Just
    DON'T)

    I would never dream of it! This is a pierogi hotdish, of course!

    Carol

    <Barb slaps Damsel silly with some cooked pasta patches, then drizzled
    butter and onions over her while she's got her back turned.> Uh-uh.
    NOT hotdish. No cream of anything involved, Toots. And no potato chips
    or chow mein noodles, neither! Hah on you!
    mumblemumbledamntrollopsmumble
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 11-28-05 - Sam I Am! and Hello

  7. Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Damsel in dis Dress said:
    Melba's Jammin said:

    I've been up to me [censored] in egg noodle dough since Sunday. I want to use
    my cottage cheese pirohy filling (dry cottage cheese, onion, dill weed,
    maybe some sour cream, maybe an egg -- depends on) with wide strips of
    thin dough in one way or another -- either layered, similar to lasagne
    (and don't even think about calling this a pierogi casserole, ok? Just
    DON'T)

    I would never dream of it! This is a pierogi hotdish, of course!

    Carol

    <Barb slaps Damsel silly with some cooked pasta patches, then drizzled
    butter and onions over her while she's got her back turned.> Uh-uh.
    NOT hotdish. No cream of anything involved, Toots. And no potato chips
    or chow mein noodles, neither! Hah on you!
    mumblemumbledamntrollopsmumble

    Damsel looks around innocently, trying to comprehend why the Jam Lady
    has abused her so

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Melba's Jammin said:

    I've been up to me [censored] in egg noodle dough since Sunday. I want to use
    my cottage cheese pirohy filling (dry cottage cheese, onion, dill weed,
    maybe some sour cream, maybe an egg -- depends on) with wide strips of
    thin dough in one way or another -- either layered, similar to lasagne
    (and don't even think about calling this a pierogi casserole, ok? Just
    DON'T), or rolled; i.e., lay out a strip of cooked dough and smear on
    some cottage cheese filling, then roll up like a pinwheel thang.

    Got that? So here's my question: Assuming that I get this concoction
    into a pan, either layered or in fat little rolls, how do I keep
    everything moist, soft, and tender (as much as an egg noodle with some
    tooth to it will be tender)? Do NOT suggest I dump some sort of cheese
    on top to melt. I don't particularly want to cover it in sour cream,
    either.

    And, since anything layered it bound to be called some kind of lasagne
    whether I want it known that way or not, I'm leaning toward fat little
    rolls either seam-side down or standing on end.

    I'm willing to use some butter, but not much.

    I can't see pouring much liquid in it - I don't want a soupy serving of
    anything here.

    How about some melted butter poured and/or brushed on top, then covered
    with foil during baking?

    Hit me!

    OK. Done. Pictures are on my website if you care; here's the narrative:
    "December 1, 2005

    White Rabbit! *

    I've been making Egg Noodles Wazoo since Sunday afternoon. I do believe
    the project is complete with this evening's activity. Oodles of noodles
    abound, five triple batches mixed, rested, rolled, cut, dried, and
    stored. A year's supply.

    While I was into Batch No. 4, I got to thinking about figuring out a way
    to use some of the noodle dough with my favorite pirohy filling -
    cottage cheese. Yesterday, I posted this to the internet food group in
    which I participate:

    (deleted for redundancy)

    The inmates rallied 'round one of their own with a number of ideas
    ranging from steaming to filling them with raspberry jelly (Where did I
    say I wanted that involved?), with thoughts of deep-frying the noodle
    stuff and then piping the cheese mixture on it. There was a little too
    much interest in turning my filling into some freakin' sweet thing. Did
    I say I was making blintzes, fer cryin' out loud? I did not. We had a
    nice discussion on the group, though someone suggested I was grumpy
    about it. Not true at all. They couldn't see the twinkle in my eyes
    when I was doing all that writing. I was questioned as to why I was so
    committed to the dish and doing it the way I wanted to do it (but
    seeking some guidance from the wizened inmates). Best I could explain
    was that I was listening to K.D. Lang and decided I wanted one o' them
    "Hallelujah" experiences and this was gonna be as good a way to get it
    as anything. . . .

    I mixed Batch No. 5 this morning and it was stiff, stiff, stiff. I used
    only about 4 tbsp water for 3 cups of flour and 3 eggs. The dough
    rested all day while I was out and about and I finally put action to
    thought after supper. And know this: Call it a Pierogi Casserole,
    Pierogi Hotdish, Lazy Man's Pierogi, or Pierogi Lasagne and I will hunt
    you down and hurt you. It resembles pirohy in that the ingredients are
    pretty much the same but the construction is so not pirohy.

    OK, the dough was ready and I had the filling ingredients in house.
    Pictures for your viewing pleasure. The filling was made thusly: About
    5 green onions were chopped in the food processor. Then I dumped a
    12-ounce container of Old Home Dry Cottage Cheese into a towel and
    squeezed it until it was dry. Then dumped it into the food processor
    workbowl. I pulse-processed a bit until the cheese was thoroughly
    broken up and almost starting to clump back together. Added some salt
    and about a tablespoon of light sour cream to bind it. I almost forgot
    the dried dill weed. Mix that in by hand, please, elsewise your filling
    will look a tad green throughout.

    With great care, I rolled the noodle dough as I have been for four
    friggin' days, then carefully measured 4x6" rectangles. I figured seven
    should get me what I wanted. By now I had a plan (fancy that). I
    figured to spread some of the filling on each of the cooked noodle
    pieces, roll them up like a jelly roll, then cut each piece in half and
    stand it on end in a baking dish, pour some butter-browned chopped
    onions over, cover, and bake to heat through. Rob wanted to know what
    the heck I was doing that made the house stink. Onions. Browning.
    Might have to smack him one. Heathen.

    Well-l-l-l, it went like this: I cooked the noodle pieces in shallow
    water, lifted them from the water and drained them on cloth toweling; I
    spread some of the cheese filling on top and discovered that a schmear
    of sour cream on top of the initial glob of filling facilitated the
    spreading somewhat. I rolled them into wee jelly roll shapes and was
    feeling pretty good. I realized I was going to run out of filling and
    added maybe 3/4 cup of fat-free cottage cheese to what I had left (1/2
    cup?). The last two rolls were filled with a pretty loose mixture but
    they rolled up fine. I deep-sixed the thought of cutting them and
    standing them on end and, instead, arranged them in a baking dish in
    which I'd smeared some of that chopped onion-in-butter thang. Then I
    poured the rest of the butter and onions on top, covered it with foil,
    then baked it for 30 minutes. When I removed the dish from the oven,
    things appeared swimmingly - literally. Lots of liquid surrounded the
    rolls. A fair amount of liquid released from that non-fat cottage
    cheese (it's not all butter there). No harm, no foul. I let things sit
    for a good 10 minutes because they were plenty hot and, frankly, I was
    nervous about actually putting a fork in it.

    OK, so I lifted two to a plate. They transported fine, everything held
    together nicely. The dough was tender (more than I expected it to be,
    frankly) and the filling was okay. Not great, but okay. A little more
    salt wouldn't have hurt, but I didn't want to over do it.

    So there it is. I gotta name this adventure even though I may likely
    never make them again. It was labor intensive for what it came out to
    be, but I'll be damned if you'll ever catch me smearing that filling on
    a lasagne noodle. I think for the amount of time spent, I'd rather
    enjoy that filling in lovely properly triangular pirohy. I'm glad I did
    it, though. It generated some nice discussion amongst a few of the
    foodies. Was it "Hallelujah"? Mmmm, no. I guess I'll just have to
    rely on the Apricot Butter for that.
    -Barb
    *Say "White Rabbit" the very first on the first day of the month and
    you'll have good luck for the month. Do it faithfully (notice I do not
    say "religiously"😉 and you'll have The Rabbit Habit. "
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 11-28-05 - Sam I Am! and Hello

  9. Barb said:

    White Rabbit! *

    *Say "White Rabbit" the very first on the first day of the month and
    you'll have good luck for the month. Do it faithfully (notice I do not
    say "religiously"😉 and you'll have The Rabbit Habit.

    ....except in March, when you're supposed to say "March Hare."

    From the _Moosewood Cookbook_:

    White Rabbit Salad

    3 cups cottage cheese (may be lowfat)
    1 to 2 Tbs honey (optional), to taste
    2 to 3 Tbs lemon juice, to taste
    1/4 cup (packed) raisins or currants
    1/2 cup chopped toasted nuts
    1 Tbs poppy seeds
    2 medium-sized [censored] apples, diced
    PLUS MANY OPTIONS:
    fresh peach slices
    fresh pear slices
    seedless red or green grapes
    orange sections
    chunks of ripe honeydew or cantaloupe

    Combine everything and chill.

    15 minutes to prepare
    Yield: about 6 servings

    March Hare

    3 cups cottage cheese (may be lowfat)
    2 Tbs sesame seeds
    1/4 cup lightly toasted sunflower seeds
    1 medium carrot, diced very small
    1 medium-sized tomato, diced
    1 scallion (whites and greens included) minced
    1 small bell pepper ~ any color, minced
    1 stalk celery, diced
    1 small cucumber ~ peeled, seeded, and minced
    1/2 cup (packed) finely minced parsley
    a handful or two of alfalfa sprouts
    2 to 3 Tbs fresh lemon juice, to taste
    salt (optional) & black pepper, to taste
    1 to 2 hardboiled eggs, chopped (optional)

    15 minutes to prepare
    6-8 servings

    Bob

  10. Bob Terwilliger said:
    Barb said:

    White Rabbit! *

    *Say "White Rabbit" the very first on the first day of the month and
    you'll have good luck for the month. Do it faithfully (notice I do not
    say "religiously"😉 and you'll have The Rabbit Habit.

    ...except in March, when you're supposed to say "March Hare."

    <snip recipes>

    My grandfather used to always say "what's so rare as a day in (month)"
    on the first of the month. I can only assume its from the poem "what is
    so rare as a day in June" but i have no idea why.

    --

    saerah

    "Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
    disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
    -Baruch Spinoza

    "There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
    what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
    and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
    is another theory which states that this has already happened."
    -Douglas Adams

  11. Melba's Jammin said:

    (clipped lovely lab discussion of new food group)

    Quoted message said:

    . It generated some nice discussion amongst a few of the
    foodies. Was it "Hallelujah"? Mmmm, no. I guess I'll just have to
    rely on the Apricot Butter for that.
    -Barb

    It's all your fault. I got a batch of frozen pirohys (pirohies?) at the store
    on Wednesday. I'll try them when the Orclet comes home for the holidays. I
    loved your experiment & story.
    How about Minnesota Madness for your noodles? Nearly Not a Noodle
    Whipsadoodle? Joyful Noise (playing off the hallelujah). Plump Slovaskis
    (the little fat rolls - how d'ya say in Slovak? furrin language makes food
    sound more sophisticated). Moist, soft & tender - hmmm, sounds like Sleeping
    Babies to me.
    Edrena

  12. Melba's Jammin' wrote on 01 Dec 2005 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Damsel in dis Dress said:
    Melba's Jammin said:

    I've been up to me [censored] in egg noodle dough since Sunday. I want
    to use my cottage cheese pirohy filling (dry cottage cheese,
    onion, dill weed, maybe some sour cream, maybe an egg -- depends
    on) with wide strips of thin dough in one way or another -- either
    layered, similar to lasagne (and don't even think about calling
    this a pierogi casserole, ok? Just DON'T)

    I would never dream of it! This is a pierogi hotdish, of course!

    Carol

    <Barb slaps Damsel silly with some cooked pasta patches, then drizzled
    butter and onions over her while she's got her back turned.> Uh-uh.
    NOT hotdish. No cream of anything involved, Toots. And no potato
    chips or chow mein noodles, neither! Hah on you!
    mumblemumbledamntrollopsmumble

    Sour cream in between the noodle layers alternating with the perogi
    filling between the noodle layers... A White Pierogi Lasagna kinda dealie?

    --
    The eyes are the mirrors....
    But the ears...Ah the ears.
    The ears keep the hat up.

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