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  1. Hi, I'm relatively new to this forum, but have been riding for ~10+ years off and on (now on...).
    I've recently gotten into the CO2 cartridge thing, and I have been buying BB-gun CO2 cartridges
    instead of the over-priced bike-specific ones (much, much cheaper). Was told today by a local
    Performance bike shop worker that the BB gun ones (I specifically have Crossman BB gun ones) have
    some oil in them, and that it'll wear away the rubber innertubes eventually. Any truth to this, or
    anyone have any experience with this? I've used several of the BB ones no problem so far but...

    thanks!

    2003 Ellsworth Truth with Romic 1996 Kona Kula hardtail with XTR

  2. "The Muncher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi, I'm relatively new to this forum, but have been riding for ~10+ years off and on (now on...).
    I've recently gotten into the CO2 cartridge thing, and I have been buying BB-gun CO2 cartridges
    instead of the over-priced bike-specific ones (much, much cheaper). Was told today by a local
    Performance bike shop worker that the BB gun ones (I specifically have Crossman BB gun ones) have
    some oil in them, and that it'll wear away the rubber innertubes eventually. Any truth to this, or
    anyone have any experience with this? I've used several of the BB ones no problem so far but...


    How much are inner tubes costing you?

  3. The Muncher said:

    Hi, I'm relatively new to this forum, but have been riding for ~10+ years off and on (now on...).
    I've recently gotten into the CO2 cartridge thing, and I have been buying BB-gun CO2 cartridges
    instead of the over-priced bike-specific ones (much, much cheaper). Was told today by a local
    Performance bike shop worker that the BB gun ones (I specifically have Crossman BB gun ones) have
    some oil in them, and that it'll wear away the rubber innertubes eventually. Any truth to this, or
    anyone have any experience with this? I've used several of the BB ones no problem so far but...

    Walk into that particular Performance and tell them that thanks to the BS story, you're going to
    shop in a "real" LBS from now on.

  4. Dunno, but next time you use a cartridge, afterward cut it apart and look. Same goes for when
    replacing inner tubes, cut the old one apart and see if oil is in it.

    The Muncher said:

    Hi, I'm relatively new to this forum, but have been riding for ~10+ years off and on (now on...).
    I've recently gotten into the CO2 cartridge thing, and I have been buying BB-gun CO2 cartridges
    instead of the over-priced bike-specific ones (much, much cheaper). Was told today by a local
    Performance bike shop worker that the BB gun ones (I specifically have Crossman BB gun ones) have
    some oil in them, and that it'll wear away the rubber innertubes eventually. Any truth to this, or
    anyone have any experience with this? I've used several of the BB ones no problem so far but...

    thanks!

    2003 Ellsworth Truth with Romic 1996 Kona Kula hardtail with XTR

  5. P e t e F a g e r l i n said:
    The Muncher said:

    Hi, I'm relatively new to this forum, but have been riding for ~10+ years off and on (now on...).
    I've recently gotten into the CO2 cartridge thing, and I have been buying BB-gun CO2 cartridges
    instead of the over-priced bike-specific ones (much, much cheaper). Was told today by a local
    Performance bike shop worker that the BB gun ones (I specifically have Crossman BB gun ones) have
    some oil in them, and that it'll wear away the rubber innertubes eventually. Any truth to this, or
    anyone have any experience with this? I've used several of the BB ones no problem so far but...

    Walk into that particular Performance and tell them that thanks to the BS story, you're going to
    shop in a "real" LBS from now on.

    I didn't think that the miniscule amount of oil would 'eat away' at the butyl rubber tubes...

  6. The Muncher said:

    Hi, I'm relatively new to this forum, but have been riding for ~10+ years off and on (now on...).
    I've recently gotten into the CO2 cartridge thing, and I have been buying BB-gun CO2 cartridges
    instead of the over-priced bike-specific ones (much, much cheaper). Was told today by a local
    Performance bike shop worker that the BB gun ones (I specifically have Crossman BB gun ones) have
    some oil in them, and that it'll wear away the rubber innertubes eventually. Any truth to this, or
    anyone have any experience with this? I've used several of the BB ones no problem so far but...

    thanks!

    2003 Ellsworth Truth with Romic 1996 Kona Kula hardtail with XTR

    I bet there is only a few manufactors out there who make ever cartridge sold to the dozens and
    dozens of companies that sell them. They just change the labeling. My 2 cents.

    Bill Porter www.mountainbikebill.com

  7. The Muncher <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi, I'm relatively new to this forum, but have been riding for ~10+ years off and on (now on...).
    I've recently gotten into the CO2 cartridge thing, and I have been buying BB-gun CO2 cartridges
    instead of the over-priced bike-specific ones (much, much cheaper). Was told today by a local
    Performance bike shop worker that the BB gun ones (I specifically have Crossman BB gun ones) have
    some oil in them, and that it'll wear away the rubber innertubes eventually. Any truth to this, or
    anyone have any experience with this? I've used several of the BB ones no problem so far but...

    thanks!

    If you're already paying for air are you going to choke on the cost of an occasional tube if
    it is true?

    Chris

  8. I agree with Bill Porter...

    my 2 cents.

    "Bill Porter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    The Muncher said:

    Hi, I'm relatively new to this forum, but have been riding for ~10+ years off and on (now
    on...). I've recently gotten into the CO2 cartridge thing, and I have been buying BB-gun CO2
    cartridges instead of the over-priced bike-specific ones (much, much cheaper). Was told today by
    a local Performance bike shop worker that the BB gun ones (I specifically have Crossman BB gun
    ones) have some oil in them, and that it'll wear away the rubber innertubes eventually. Any
    truth to this, or anyone have any experience with this? I've used several of the BB ones no
    problem so far but...

    thanks!

    2003 Ellsworth Truth with Romic 1996 Kona Kula hardtail with XTR

    I bet there is only a few manufactors out there who make ever cartridge sold to the dozens and
    dozens of companies that sell them. They just change the labeling. My 2 cents.

    Bill Porter www.mountainbikebill.com

  9. (ctg) said:

    The Muncher <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi, I'm relatively new to this forum, but have been riding for ~10+ years off and on (now
    on...). I've recently gotten into the CO2 cartridge thing, and I have been buying BB-gun CO2
    cartridges instead of the over-priced bike-specific ones (much, much cheaper). Was told today by
    a local Performance bike shop worker that the BB gun ones (I specifically have Crossman BB gun
    ones) have some oil in them, and that it'll wear away the rubber innertubes eventually. Any
    truth to this, or anyone have any experience with this? I've used several of the BB ones no
    problem so far but...

    thanks!

    If you're already paying for air are you going to choke on the cost of an occasional tube if
    it is true?

    Chris

    Chintzy as it may sound, I don't want to be doing anything that is detrimental to my tubes while in
    the middle of a ride...but sure, I'll replace the tube afterwards if it's true...

  10. The Muncher <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi, I'm relatively new to this forum, but have been riding for ~10+ years off and on (now on...).
    I've recently gotten into the CO2 cartridge thing, and I have been buying BB-gun CO2 cartridges
    instead of the over-priced bike-specific ones (much, much cheaper). Was told today by a local
    Performance bike shop worker that the BB gun ones (I specifically have Crossman BB gun ones) have
    some oil in them, and that it'll wear away the rubber innertubes eventually. Any truth to this, or
    anyone have any experience with this? I've used several of the BB ones no problem so far but...

    Here's what you do...

    Go to the greasiest dirty mex place in town and gorge yourself. After the inevitable rotten egg
    flatulence sets in, go to that bike shop. Find that lying sonofabitch, then go lay a few air-eggs in
    his vicinity. Never go back to that crappy shop again.

    JD

  11. The Muncher said:

    Hi, I'm relatively new to this forum, but have been riding for ~10+ years off and on (now on...).
    I've recently gotten into the CO2 cartridge thing, and I have been buying BB-gun CO2 cartridges
    instead of the over-priced bike-specific ones (much, much cheaper). Was told today by a local
    Performance bike shop worker that the BB gun ones (I specifically have Crossman BB gun ones) have
    some oil in them, and that it'll wear away the rubber innertubes eventually. Any truth to this, or
    anyone have any experience with this? I've used several of the BB ones no problem so far but...

    I've never heard of this and haven't experienced such a problem. Butyl rubber is more permeable to
    CO2 than to air, so tires inflated with a cartridge will lose pressure faster. If I use a cartridge
    during a ride I make sure to deflate it when I get back and pump it up again with air.

    Tlacatecatl Tlacaxipe

  12. "Tlacatecatl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    The Muncher said:

    Hi, I'm relatively new to this forum, but have been riding for ~10+ years off and on (now
    on...). I've recently gotten into the CO2 cartridge thing, and I have been buying BB-gun CO2
    cartridges instead of the over-priced bike-specific ones (much, much cheaper). Was told today by
    a local Performance bike shop worker that the BB gun ones (I specifically have Crossman BB gun
    ones) have some oil in them, and that it'll wear away the rubber innertubes eventually. Any
    truth to this, or anyone have any experience with this? I've used several of the BB ones no
    problem so far but...

    I've never heard of this and haven't experienced such a problem. Butyl


    rubber

    Quoted message said:

    is more permeable to CO2 than to air, so tires inflated with a cartridge


    will

    Quoted message said:

    lose pressure faster. If I use a cartridge during a ride I make sure to deflate it when I get back
    and pump it up again with air.

    Tlacatecatl Tlacaxipe

    What about using CO2 on a tubeless tire setup? In this case you don't have an inner tube to
    contend with?

  13. "ctg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The Muncher <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi, I'm relatively new to this forum, but have been riding for ~10+ years off and on (now
    on...). I've recently gotten into the CO2 cartridge thing, and I have been buying BB-gun CO2
    cartridges instead of the over-priced bike-specific ones (much, much cheaper). Was told today by
    a local Performance bike shop worker that the BB gun ones (I specifically have Crossman BB gun
    ones) have some oil in them, and that it'll wear away the rubber innertubes eventually. Any
    truth to this, or anyone have any experience with this? I've used several of the BB ones no
    problem so far but...

    thanks!

    If you're already paying for air are you going to choke on the cost of an occasional tube if it
    is true?

    Chris

    Brilliant comment!

  14. mjm said:

    What about using CO2 on a tubeless tire setup? In this case you don't have an inner tube to
    contend with?

    Try it and see.

    Tlacatecatl Tlacaxipe

  15. Tlacatecatl said:
    mjm said:

    What about using CO2 on a tubeless tire setup? In this case you don't have an inner tube to
    contend with?

    Try it and see.

    Tlacatecatl Tlacaxipe

    Wow T-squared. Now THAT's a name!

    G

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