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  1. The newsgroup seems to be filling up with troll wrestling at the moment
    now that schools out and TrollB seemingly has more time on his hands to
    go about his trolling. Remember the first rule of troll wrestling is
    that your wrestling is the reaction they are hoping for as wrestling is
    what they enjoy most.
    --
    Tony

    "The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
    right."
    - Lord Hailsham

  2. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The newsgroup seems to be filling up with troll wrestling at the moment
    now that schools out and TrollB seemingly has more time on his hands to go
    about his trolling. Remember the first rule of troll wrestling is that
    your wrestling is the reaction they are hoping for as wrestling is what
    they enjoy most.

    Indeedeee. Kill-files are a wonderful invention 🙂

    Cheers, helen s

  3. Tony Raven said:

    The newsgroup seems to be filling up with troll wrestling at the moment
    now that schools out

    I think you'll find the schools are still open in most places, so much
    for that theory then.

    Quoted message said:

    and TrollB seemingly has more time on his hands to
    go about his trolling.

    You may resent opinions which challenge your closed, parochial,
    preconceptions, but please do not seek to suppress free speech here.

    Quoted message said:

    Remember the first rule of troll wrestling is
    that your wrestling is the reaction they are hoping for as wrestling is
    what they enjoy most.

    That's as maybe - but do not insult us by pretending you know why /I'm/
    here.

    --
    Matt B

  4. Matt B said:

    That's as maybe - but do not insult us by pretending you know why /I'm/
    here.

    The use of the word "us" implies you are part of a group that shares come
    sort of consensus or common ground with you. That is not the case. No
    one here apparently has any respect what so ever for your views, you
    have received no support, and you are universally regarded as a troll
    at best and a dangerous speedophile apologist troll at worst.

    The only "us" here does not include you. Indeed, there might be several
    groups of "us"es here, none of which include you.

    --
    Nobby

  5. Tony Raven said:

    Remember the first rule of troll wrestling is
    that your wrestling is the reaction they are hoping for as wrestling is
    what they enjoy most.

    My only problem with that is that usenet postings are archived for
    posterity. If the [censored] posted by that [censored] goes unchallenged, it might
    be read by impressionable minds at some point with disastrous
    consequences.

    d.

  6. davek said:
    Tony Raven said:

    Remember the first rule of troll wrestling is
    that your wrestling is the reaction they are hoping for as wrestling is
    what they enjoy most.

    My only problem with that is that usenet postings are archived for
    posterity. If the [censored] posted by that [censored] goes unchallenged, it might
    be read by impressionable minds at some point with disastrous
    consequences.

    Anyone who believes what they read on usenet has probably already been
    locked up for their own safety anyway.

    James
    --
    James Annan
    see web pages for email
    http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
    http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/

  7. Nobody Here said:
    Matt B said:

    That's as maybe - but do not insult us by pretending you know why /I'm/
    here.

    The use of the word "us" implies you are part of a group that shares come
    sort of consensus or common ground with you. That is not the case.

    Not in your narrow world maybe.

    Quoted message said:

    No
    one here apparently has any respect what so ever for your views, you
    have received no support,

    Which is the /only/ reason I visit here. Do I need to persuade those
    already enlightened?

    Quoted message said:

    and you are universally regarded as a troll
    at best

    That is their only explanation for such "extreme" views.

    Quoted message said:

    and a dangerous speedophile apologist troll at worst.

    Only by the ignorant.

    Quoted message said:

    The only "us" here does not include you.

    Precisely.

    Quoted message said:

    Indeed, there might be several
    groups of "us"es here, none of which include you.

    Yes, even the opposition isn't united ;-)

    --
    Matt B

  8. James Annan said:

    Anyone who believes what they read on usenet has probably already been
    locked up for their own safety anyway.

    Is that true? ;-)

    Jon

  9. It's always school hols over on uk.rec.subterranea

  10. James Annan said:

    Anyone who believes what they read on usenet has probably already been
    locked up for their own safety anyway.

    I don't know - maybe usenet is in itself some subtle form of care in
    the community. I mean, while MattB is sitting in his bedroom posting
    his drivel to URC, at least he is off the streets.

    d.

  11. Nobody Here said:
    Matt B said:

    That's as maybe - but do not insult us by pretending you know why /I'm/
    here.

    The use of the word "us" implies you are part of a group that shares come
    sort of consensus or common ground with you. That is not the case. No
    one here apparently has any respect what so ever for your views, you
    have received no support, and you are universally regarded as a troll
    at best and a dangerous speedophile apologist troll at worst.

    Then wtf do so many people answer and discourse with him? Some of the
    longest running threads recently have been MattB threads.

    I'm not a big fan of the kf but it has its place and a few select people
    reside in mine, and yes, sticking your fingers in your ears going 'la la
    la', does make for a quieter, more peaceful life.

    <snip>

  12. Tosspot said:

    I'm not a big fan of the kf but it has its place and a few select
    people reside in mine, and yes, sticking your fingers in your ears
    going 'la la la', does make for a quieter, more peaceful life.

    The same phenomenon has encouraged me to learn more about Gnus's
    "score files", which allow you to raise or lower the score of an
    individual, e-mail address, subject, thread, etc, using exact or
    regexp matching. So now I don't see MattB (or anything from
    cycleforums), and can kill any threads he participates in, while
    still seeing contributions from those few individuals I have
    positively scored.

    Cool functionality especially in a high volume group, if a little
    hard to figure out.

    Brendan
    --
    Brendan Halpin, Department of Sociology, University of Limerick, Ireland
    Tel: w +353-61-213147 f +353-61-202569 h +353-61-338562; Room F2-025 x 3147
    [email hidden] http://www.ul.ie/sociology/brendan.halpin.html

  13. MartinM said:

    It's always school hols over on uk.rec.subterranea

    And it's always Friday afternoon on cam.misc

    The Luggage

  14. davek said:
    James Annan said:

    Anyone who believes what they read on usenet has probably already been
    locked up for their own safety anyway.

    I don't know - maybe usenet is in itself some subtle form of care in
    the community. I mean, while MattB is sitting in his bedroom posting
    his drivel to URC, at least he is off the streets.

    he could be sitting in his car doing it on wifi; actually that's got me
    thinking, why is it OK to watch a little GPS thingy from the driver's
    seat but not a TV?

  15. I got a TomTom recently and so have been giving this matter much
    thought. But it's not such a big deal - the occasional furtive glance
    is all that is required. And in fact you don't really have to look at
    the screen at all because it vocally alerts you to every direction
    point. All in all, a nifty bit of kit.

    d.

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    davek said:

    And in fact you don't really have to look at the screen at all
    because it vocally alerts you to every direction point. All in all,
    a nifty bit of kit.

    Very nifty - but - I don't like it when she gives you a row for
    taking a wrong turning :-((

    --
    T h e - e x t e n d e r ! ! ! !

  17. Sandy Morton said:

    Very nifty - but - I don't like it when she gives you a row for
    taking a wrong turning :-((

    That's only if you have it set to the man's voice. If you set it to the
    woman's voice it just goes all sullen and quiet, then later on when you
    are well and truly lost it just says: "Happy now?"

    Apparently, you can download John Cleese's voice for it, but I'm not
    sure I want my TomTom getting out and whacking the car with a large
    branch when it breaks down.

    d.

  18. davek said:


    My only problem with that is that usenet postings are archived for
    posterity. If the [censored] posted by that [censored] goes unchallenged, it might
    be read by impressionable minds at some point with disastrous
    consequences.

    And which do you think is more likely to be ignored by posterity? A
    single post all on its own with no replies or a sodding great long
    thread which invites the OP to post and repost the same drivel? The
    best way to kill it is to starve it of oxygen.

    And any impressionable minds that find any of this on Usenet will be so
    totally utterly confused by all the conflicting views of Usenet their
    impressionable minds won't have a clue what to think.

    --
    Tony

    "The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
    right."
    - Lord Hailsham

  19. Tony Raven said:
    davek said:


    My only problem with that is that usenet postings are archived for
    posterity. If the [censored] posted by that [censored] goes unchallenged, it might
    be read by impressionable minds at some point with disastrous
    consequences.

    And which do you think is more likely to be ignored by posterity? A
    single post all on its own with no replies or a sodding great long
    thread which invites the OP to post and repost the same drivel? The
    best way to kill it is to starve it of oxygen.

    And any impressionable minds that find any of this on Usenet will be so
    totally utterly confused by all the conflicting views of Usenet their
    impressionable minds won't have a clue what to think.

    well a quick look at urc on google groups (which is all I have)
    reveals;

    Schools out and Trolls are about 18 new of 18 Tony Raven (12 authors)
    5:42pm
    Number plates for pedal cycles 184 new of 184 Matt B (44 authors)
    5:27pm
    OT: Speed camera folly confirmed 33 new of 33 Alistair Gunn (12
    authors) 4:51pm
    Provocative debate - only for the open-minded!

    as the 4 most active topics, anyone would think it's the middle of
    winter, why aren't you all out on your bikes?

  20. Tony Raven said:
    davek said:

    My only problem with that is that usenet postings are archived for
    posterity. If the [censored] posted by that [censored] goes unchallenged, it might
    be read by impressionable minds at some point with disastrous
    consequences.

    And which do you think is more likely to be ignored by posterity? A
    single post all on its own with no replies or a sodding great long
    thread which invites the OP to post and repost the same drivel? The
    best way to kill it is to starve it of oxygen.

    How very open minded.

    Quoted message said:

    And any impressionable minds that find any of this on Usenet will be so
    totally utterly confused by all the conflicting views of Usenet their
    impressionable minds won't have a clue what to think.

    Conflicting views? How terrible, lets suppress them all now in case
    someone is influenced!

    If ever there was a poster deserving to be kf'd I think the OP of this
    is that case.

    --
    Matt B

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