Name that pass ... (the Italian Job)

David Cowie said:

Can anyone tell me what pass is being driven up (in a Lamborghini Miura) at the start of the
Italian Job (1969, starring Michael Caine). Presumably somewhere in the Italian Alps (mountains
are too smooth to be the Dolomites).

The link you give doesn't seem to contain the scene at the summit to which you refer. Can you give a
better link?

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They did stop at some road signs, but it was past before I realised. Most of the film is in and
around Turin.

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Movie link at imdb.comTitleOpen ↗

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They seem to suggest Valle d'Aosta, Italy Trento, Trentino - Alto Adige, Italy

Valle d'Aosta is on the opposite side of northern Italy from Alto Adige. However, the auto scenes on
the roof were shot at the Lingotto plant in Torino. Today this plant is an automotive museum you can
go up to the roof to view the "secret" test track that FIAT built there in their heyday.

Jobst Brandt [email hidden] Palo Alto CA

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Can anyone tell me what pass is being driven up (in a Lamborghini Miura) at the start of the
Italian Job (1969, starring Michael Caine). Presumably somewhere in the Italian Alps (mountains
are too smooth to be the Dolomites). They did stop at some road signs, but it was past before I
realised. Most of the film is in and around Turin.

Possibly not Italy at all. the final scene in the coach was filmed near Mojacar in SE Spain (I was
there last year, holiday rep snippet to wake up dozing package tourists, armco all the way round now
and a lot of the bends have been lessened).

martin said:

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Can anyone tell me what pass is being driven up (in a Lamborghini Miura) at the start of the
Italian Job (1969, starring Michael Caine). Presumably somewhere in the Italian Alps (mountains
are too smooth to be the Dolomites). They did stop at some road signs, but it was past before I
realised. Most of the film is in and around Turin.

Possibly not Italy at all. the final scene in the coach was filmed near Mojacar in SE Spain (I was
there last year, holiday rep snippet to wake up dozing package tourists, armco all the way round
now and a lot of the bends have been lessened).

At the end it said filmed on location in UK, Italy and Ireland...

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Can anyone tell me what pass is being driven up (in a Lamborghini Miura) at the start of the
Italian Job

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Possibly not Italy at all. the final scene in the coach was filmed near Mojacar in SE Spain (I
was there last year, holiday rep snippet to wake up dozing package tourists

At the end it said filmed on location in UK, Italy and Ireland...

I don't think a holiday rep is a reliable source, I guess they just pass on info they are
told/pickup - I doubt they are very critical of it.

Maybe a film newsgroup would be a better place to ask?

rec.arts.movies.past-films, uk.media.films

are two that come up on my listing here

but there re plenty of others (including some 'interestingly ' named alt.* ones....)
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>Can anyone tell me what pass is being driven up (in a Lamborghini Miura) at the start of the
>Italian Job

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Maybe a film newsgroup would be a better place to ask?

And on IMDB there is a someone who has researched all the locations used in the film (for some
project or other)

<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064505/board/nest/884246>

(Wasting time and enjoying the peace and quite while SWMBO and little 'un are out....)
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Can anyone tell me what pass is being driven up (in a Lamborghini Miura) at the start of the
Italian Job (1969, starring Michael Caine). Presumably somewhere in the Italian Alps (mountains
are too smooth to be the Dolomites). They did stop at some road signs, but it was past before I
realised. Most of the film is in and around Turin.

Possibly not Italy at all. the final scene in the coach was filmed near Mojacar in SE Spain (I
was there last year, holiday rep snippet to wake up dozing package tourists, armco all the way
round now and a lot of the bends have been lessened).

At the end it said filmed on location in UK, Italy and Ireland...

Including using Coventry to stand-in for Turin!

(e.g. the weir scene)

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Can anyone tell me what pass is being driven up (in a Lamborghini Miura) at the start of the
Italian Job (1969, starring Michael Caine). Presumably somewhere in the Italian Alps (mountains are
too smooth to be the Dolomites). They did stop at some road signs, but it was past before I
realised. Most of the film is in and around Turin.

Movie link at imdb.comTitleOpen ↗

On the goofs link on the above page the have the following:

Errors in geography: During the introductory sequence, the car is seen driving up the Italian
side of the Grand St. Bernard pass and then driving down the same side again, whereas it's
evidently intended that it crosses the pass.

Keith

David Cowie said:

Can anyone tell me what pass is being driven up (in a Lamborghini Miura) at the start of the
Italian Job (1969, starring Michael Caine). Presumably somewhere in the Italian Alps (mountains are
too smooth to be the Dolomites). They did stop at some road signs, but it was past before I
realised. Most of the film is in and around Turin.

I have received a reply and am certain this is on good authority.

"The first shot of the film is of the bridge at the southern end of the St. Bernard valley, north of
Aosta: The bridge that serves the new toll road that goes through the mountain. Successive shots are
of the Miura working its way up the old road in the St. Bernard valley towards the Great St. Bernard
pass. Then the Miura comes down the same road (but higher up) and clearly passes a no. 32 mileage
marker. Filming is then continued on another road - the road to La Thuile, south of Courmayeur,
where the Miura crashes in the tunnel. This tunnel has since been extended with a gallery.

One error in the Imdb site is that NOTHING was filmed in or around Trento, Trentino, Alto Adige. I
know this for a fact as I have been on every road used in the film."

Many thanks to Greg for clearing that up.

The ratchet to tighten the shoe is located directly over the end of the 5th phalange (small bony
protrusion) and the cuboid bones. This can cause the 5th phalange (ok, baby toe bone) to be squashed
up against the 4th. This only happened on my right foot, which is wider than the left. A similar
scenario to when someone shakes your hand and squeezes your palm really hard.

I've returned to my Carnacs, which have 3 velcro straps and tighten in a more general way (spread)
rather than cause pain in a specific spot.

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The ratchet to tighten the shoe is located directly over the end of the 5th phalange (small bony
protrusion) and the cuboid bones. This can cause the 5th phalange (ok, baby toe bone) to be
squashed up against the 4th. This only happened on my right foot, which is wider than the left. A
similar scenario to when someone shakes your hand and squeezes your palm really hard.

I've returned to my Carnacs, which have 3 velcro straps and tighten in a more general way (spread)
rather than cause pain in a specific spot.

Hmm, I've got both the Genius 4's and the Dominators (very similar shoes), and I don't suffer from
this problem. I guess just chalk it up to "people's feet are different."

James

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From: David Cowie

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The ratchet to tighten the shoe is located directly over the end of the 5th phalange (small bony
protrusion) and the cuboid bones. This can cause the 5th phalange (ok, baby toe bone) to be
squashed up against the 4th. This only happened on my right foot, (snip)

Not to argue, dispute, etc. etc. at all. Sidi's work for me because the

ratchet

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strap placement keeps my toes from sliding forward to make contact with

the end

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of the shoe, which inflames my large toe joints. No feeling of "tight handshake" or noted little
toe problems.

There is a known design flaw in certain Sidi models. The revised arch compression strap introduced
with the Energy II and the Genius 4 has the strap that causes problems on the right foot of cyclists
that prefer a relatively tight strap. The newer strap has been revised again with a softer material
and can be purchased separately to replace the stiff strap for those with this problem. You can see
the newest design on the Ergo 1 and possibly on the newest shipments of Genius 4s.

Everyone with whom I've ridden who has used Sidi's and Look pedals has had squeaking problems. Why
is is that?

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From: David Cowie

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The ratchet to tighten the shoe is located directly over the end of the 5th phalange (small
bony protrusion) and the cuboid bones. This can cause the 5th phalange (ok, baby toe bone) to
be squashed up against the 4th. This only happened on my right foot, (snip)

Not to argue, dispute, etc. etc. at all. Sidi's work for me because the

ratchet

Quoted message said:

strap placement keeps my toes from sliding forward to make contact with

the end

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of the shoe, which inflames my large toe joints. No feeling of "tight handshake" or noted little
toe problems.

There is a known design flaw in certain Sidi models. The revised arch compression strap introduced
with the Energy II and the Genius 4 has the strap that causes problems on the right foot of
cyclists that prefer a relatively tight strap. The newer strap has been revised again with a

softer

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material and can be purchased separately to replace the stiff strap for those with this problem.
You can see the newest design on the Ergo 1 and possibly on the newest shipments of Genius 4s.

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The ratchet to tighten the shoe is located directly over the end of the 5th phalange (small bony
protrusion) and the cuboid bones. This can cause the 5th phalange (ok, baby toe bone) to be
squashed up against the 4th. This only happened on my right foot, which is wider than the left.
A similar scenario to when someone shakes your hand and squeezes your palm really hard.

I've returned to my Carnacs, which have 3 velcro straps and tighten in a more general way
(spread) rather than cause pain in a specific spot.

Hmm, I've got both the Genius 4's and the Dominators (very similar shoes), and I don't suffer from
this problem. I guess just chalk it up to

"people's

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feet are different."

James

Actually, the nerve location is common to virtually everybody but the preference for tightness
of the strap varies quite a bit and not all models have this problem. See my other article in
this thread.

B. Lafferty said:

Everyone with whom I've ridden who has used Sidi's and Look pedals has had squeaking problems. Why
is is that?

It's not only with Sidi shoes but the Look cleat and pedal in general. I think they're built with a
squeek/creak included. The only sure fix is to dip the pedal/shoe/cleat in a bucket of 10W40 oil
before every ride. Outside of this "bit" of noise, Look make a great clipless pedal system.

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(I'll bite) Why only the right foot?

The human body is not completely symentrical, in spite of appearances.

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B. Lafferty said:

Everyone with whom I've ridden who has used Sidi's and Look pedals has

had

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squeaking problems. Why is is that?

It's not only with Sidi shoes but the Look cleat and pedal in general. I think they're built with
a squeek/creak included. The only sure fix is to dip the pedal/shoe/cleat in a bucket of 10W40 oil
before every ride. Outside of this "bit" of noise, Look make a great clipless pedal system.

I recommend synthetic car wax.

I'm referrring to squeaks that do not go away with the use of Armor All or other lubricants on the
cleat. Just last week a friend stopped the squeak by transferring his Look cleats from his Sidis to
Nike shoes. Same cleats, no squek on the Nikes. I know of people who have switched from Sidi for
the same reason. I think it could be something in the interface between outer and mid-soles of the
Sidi design.

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B. Lafferty said:

Everyone with whom I've ridden who has used Sidi's and Look pedals has

had

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squeaking problems. Why is is that?

It's not only with Sidi shoes but the Look cleat and pedal in general. I think they're built with
a squeek/creak included. The only sure fix is to dip the pedal/shoe/cleat in a bucket of 10W40 oil
before every ride. Outside of this "bit" of noise, Look make a great clipless pedal system.

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B. Lafferty said:

Everyone with whom I've ridden who has used Sidi's and Look pedals has

had

Quoted message said:

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squeaking problems. Why is is that?

It's not only with Sidi shoes but the Look cleat and pedal in general. I think they're built with
a squeek/creak included. The only sure fix is to dip the pedal/shoe/cleat in a bucket of 10W40 oil
before every ride. Outside of this "bit" of noise, Look make a great clipless pedal system.

That's interesting - I use SPDs and Sidis and I have squeaking problems as well. So it's not just
Look pedals...

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>Can anyone tell me what pass is being driven up (in a Lamborghini Miura) at the start of the
>Italian Job

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Possibly not Italy at all. the final scene in the coach was filmed near Mojacar in SE Spain (I
was there last year, holiday rep snippet to wake up dozing package tourists

At the end it said filmed on location in UK, Italy and Ireland...

That area of Spain was and still is used for alorra films inc Spaghetti Westerns and Indiana Jones.
but could be holiday rep bull8888