Revisionist History a la Armstrong

B. Lafferty said:

From CyclingNews today:

"L'Equipe writes only negative things about me, but that's because of the
relationship between the paper and the Tour organization. Their history is
overshadowed by a seven-times Tour winner, and that puts their inheritance
in danger."

Anyone who has read L'Equipe over the years knows that this statement is
blatantly false. And my but Mr. Lance certainly has his ego on superflate.
Either that or Sheryl has been giving him some funny stuff to smoke.

The man's won seven consecutive tours. The average Joe on the street can't name
any other Tour winner. The average Jacque isn't old enough to remember one of
his countrymen winning.

Ron

RonSonic said:

The average Jacque isn't old enough to remember one of
his countrymen winning.

Nearly every Frenchman over 30 will remember Fignon winning in 1984.

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RonSonic said:

The average Jacque isn't old enough to remember one of
his countrymen winning.

Nearly every Frenchman over 30 will remember Fignon winning in 1984.

Fignon.........Fignon - isn't that the guy who collapsed in tears when he
lost the Tour to LeMond after laughing in LeMond's face before the TT?

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Nearly every Frenchman over 30 will remember Fignon winning in 1984.

Figon? Wasnt he the guy with the pony tail. who LOST to Lemond.

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Capri said:

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Nearly every Frenchman over 30 will remember Fignon winning in 1984.

Figon? Wasnt he the guy with the pony tail. who LOST to Lemond.

Hey, this sounds fun, can I play too?

Lemond? Wasn't he the guy who LOST to Indurain (as well as Bugno, Chiappucci,
Mottet, Leblanc and, um, Fignon)?

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

RonSonic said:

The average Jacque isn't old enough to remember one of
his countrymen winning.

Nearly every Frenchman over 30 will remember Fignon winning in 1984.

Yeah, a nine year old, if he followed the sport, would've remembered.

Ron

RonSonic said:

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:41:12 +0100, Ewoud Dronkert
Nearly every Frenchman over 30 will remember Fignon winning in 1984.

Yeah, a nine year old, if he followed the sport, would've remembered.

Ron

Don't 9-year-olds in France get exposed to the publicity generated by
French winners of the Tour?

In the US, I certainly was aware of baseball, football, hockey, baseball,
and the Olympic games well before that age.

Dan

Ewoud Dronkert said:

RonSonic said:

The average Jacque isn't old enough to remember one of
his countrymen winning.

Nearly every Frenchman over 30 will remember Fignon winning in 1984.

Mean age in France right now is around 39, so the majority of the French
were old enough to remember when Fignon won. Whether they actually do is a
completely different issue.

Robert Chung said:

Mean age in France right now is around 39, so the majority of the French
were old enough to remember when Fignon won. Whether they actually do is a
completely different issue.

Fignon's often referred to as lamenting that everybody remembers his 8
second TdF loss to Lemond, but not his two consecutive TdF wins.

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Victor Kan said:

Robert Chung said:

Mean age in France right now is around 39, so the majority of the French
were old enough to remember when Fignon won. Whether they actually do is a
completely different issue.

Fignon's often referred to as lamenting that everybody remembers his 8
second TdF loss to Lemond, but not his two consecutive TdF wins.

Dumbass -

That's to be expected.

Fignon's wins were dominating and relatively unexciting. His loss to
Lemond was chock full of drama.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

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Victor Kan said:

Robert Chung said:

Mean age in France right now is around 39, so the majority of the
French were old enough to remember when Fignon won. Whether they
actually do is a completely different issue.

Fignon's often referred to as lamenting that everybody remembers his
8 second TdF loss to Lemond, but not his two consecutive TdF wins.

Dumbass -

That's to be expected.

Fignon's wins were dominating and relatively unexciting. His loss to
Lemond was chock full of drama.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

There's a scene in the French movie about the woman who gets abducted at
a gas station (and then her boyfriend spends the rest of his life trying
to find out what happened to her (it was remade in the U.S. without the
bicycling bit during the abduction scene (the name of the book the movie
was made from was something like "The Golden Egg"😉)), where as she
wanders around the convenience store at the gas station the radio is
playing a blow by blow account of the tour. I vaguely recall they were
ascending some famous climb, and Hinault and Fignon were duking it out on
the climb. Does anyone know which tour that was from and who ultimately
won?

--
Bill Asher

William Asher said:

There's a scene in the French movie about the woman who gets abducted at
a gas station (and then her boyfriend spends the rest of his life trying
to find out what happened to her (it was remade in the U.S. without the
bicycling bit during the abduction scene (the name of the book the movie
was made from was something like "The Golden Egg"😉)),

Dutch! Dutch movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096163/) and book
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/text/bibleng.html).

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where as she
wanders around the convenience store at the gas station the radio is
playing a blow by blow account of the tour. I vaguely recall they were
ascending some famous climb, and Hinault and Fignon were duking it out on
the climb. Does anyone know which tour that was from and who ultimately
won?

Sorry, no idea.

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E. Dronkert

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William Asher said:

There's a scene in the French movie about the woman who gets abducted
at a gas station (and then her boyfriend spends the rest of his life
trying to find out what happened to her (it was remade in the U.S.
without the bicycling bit during the abduction scene (the name of the
book the movie was made from was something like "The Golden Egg"😉)),

Dutch! Dutch movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096163/) and book
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/text/bibleng.html).

Ok. No wonder I remember it being so good. I got confused because you
europeans all look alike to me. The U.S. remake sucked.

--
Bill Asher

William Asher said:

Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]> wrote in
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William Asher said:

There's a scene in the French movie about the woman who gets abducted
at a gas station (and then her boyfriend spends the rest of his life
trying to find out what happened to her (it was remade in the U.S.
without the bicycling bit during the abduction scene (the name of the
book the movie was made from was something like "The Golden Egg"😉)),

Dutch! Dutch movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096163/) and book
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/text/bibleng.html).

Ok. No wonder I remember it being so good. I got confused because you
europeans all look alike to me. The U.S. remake sucked.

iirc, they speak a lot of french in that movie so you weren't completely
off base.

h

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Victor Kan said:

Robert Chung wrote:
> Mean age in France right now is around 39, so the majority of the
> French were old enough to remember when Fignon won. Whether they
> actually do is a completely different issue.

Fignon's often referred to as lamenting that everybody remembers his
8 second TdF loss to Lemond, but not his two consecutive TdF wins.

Dumbass -

That's to be expected.

Fignon's wins were dominating and relatively unexciting. His loss to
Lemond was chock full of drama.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

There's a scene in the French movie about the woman who gets abducted at
a gas station (and then her boyfriend spends the rest of his life trying
to find out what happened to her (it was remade in the U.S. without the
bicycling bit during the abduction scene (the name of the book the movie
was made from was something like "The Golden Egg"😉)), where as she
wanders around the convenience store at the gas station the radio is
playing a blow by blow account of the tour. I vaguely recall they were
ascending some famous climb, and Hinault and Fignon were duking it out on
the climb. Does anyone know which tour that was from and who ultimately
won?

In must have been 1984 (won by Fignon). The only other Tour in which both H
& F participated was 1986, but Fignon was completely off form and abandoned
after the first mountain stage).

Benjo

h squared said:

William Asher said:

Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]> wrote in
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William Asher wrote:

>There's a scene in the French movie about the woman who gets abducted
>at a gas station (and then her boyfriend spends the rest of his life
>trying to find out what happened to her (it was remade in the U.S.
>without the bicycling bit during the abduction scene (the name of the
>book the movie was made from was something like "The Golden Egg"😉)),

Dutch! Dutch movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096163/) and book
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/text/bibleng.html).

Ok. No wonder I remember it being so good. I got confused because you
europeans all look alike to me. The U.S. remake sucked.

iirc, they speak a lot of french in that movie so you weren't completely
off base.

h

this is a staple on canadian tv, and i thought it was a french movie
too, unless there's a french remake or something.

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Fignon's wins were dominating and relatively unexciting. His loss to
Lemond was chock full of drama.

From:
http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/eta_tdf_1984_1993/tdf1984.php

21 Crans Montana-Villefranche en Beaujolais, 320.5 km
1. Frank Hoste en 9h28'08"
2. Hanegraaf
3. Kelly
4. Hinault
5. Manders
6. Glaus
7. Castaing
8. Wijnands
9. Vandenbrande
10. Anderson

200 miles for the day. Crazy.

Dan

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In must have been 1984 (won by Fignon). The only other Tour in which
both H & F participated was 1986, but Fignon was completely off form
and abandoned after the first mountain stage).

Benjo

Thanks, so it wasn't Hinault who was battling Fignon. But I think it was
Fignon. I remember it was kind of cool seeing the moving and hearing the
radio broadcast in the background.

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Bill Asher

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this is a staple on canadian tv, and i thought it was a french movie
too, unless there's a french remake or something.

Yes, but it has the Dutch sensibility about it. No smearing giant bowls
of pasta all over your face or cutting off your [censored] with an electric
knife. On the other hand, La Jete rocked. Maybe we just shouldn't let
the French have movie cameras and make them work only with stills.

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Bill Asher