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  1. Copied from the Cambridge Cycling Campaign list:

    http://tinyurl.com/bpawf

    "A cycling revolution could be unleashed in Norwich in a bid to
    unblock the city's traffic-chocked streets.

    The ruling Lib Dem group on the city council says it wants to oversee
    a 50 per cent increase cycling throughout Norwich by building a
    network of new cycle routes.

    Members of the authority's executive came up with the radical plans at
    a meeting last night, as it debated Norfolk County Council's Local
    Transport Plan.

    While the county wants to increase cycling by 5 per cent, the city
    council agreed that figure must be stretched in urban areas to mirror
    cities like Cambridge and York, where more than a fifth of people
    cycle to work.

    The potential cost of any scheme was not discussed at the meeting, but
    city leaders must now persuade transport bosses at the county council
    to allocate a slice of its budget to building new cycle routes
    throughout the city.

    Lib Dem city councillor Derek Wood said: "Cycling gives us the great
    opportunity to get cars off the road, but I think five per cent is way
    below what we can achieve.

    "It is a more regular and quick way of getting about than going by
    bus. And you can still get on a bike after 6pm when you don't seem to
    be able to get a bus.

    "By investing a relatively small amount of money, we have the key to
    getting people in and around the city efficiently."

    According to the Norwich Cycle Campaign group, around one in 10 people
    already cycle to work in Norwich - three times the national average.

    City Council bosses now hope to follow in the footsteps of Devon
    County Council to stretch that figure by 55 per cent in built-up areas
    by 2011.

    Before that can happen, council chiefs say more cash must be found to
    improve the cycle network around the city and encourage cyclists to be
    more visible.

    Judith Lubbock, the Liberal Dems' spokeswoman for transport, said:
    "The number of people cycling in Norwich has gone up but there is room
    for improvement.

    "I agree the target should be stretched for the city because it is
    much easier to make trips by bike around Norwich than in the country."

    Adrian Ramsay, a councillor for the Green Party said a stronger cycle
    network was necessary to encourage more people to get about using
    pedal power.

    He said: "We need a better network and very importantly better safety
    schemes on the roads.

    "We need to make sure there are enough funds to create a better cycle
    network around the city that people feel safe using. I am afraid too
    much money will go towards creating the new Northern Distributor Road.
    Providing better public transport links should be the priority."

    Mathew Williams of the Norwich Cycling Campaign, said: "We need to
    encourage more people to use bikes as their regular mode of transport.
    In Cambridge and York, around 22 per cent of people cycle to work
    which is twice as much as here in Norwich. I would say the network of
    roads is good but a lot can be done to improve it for cyclists. It
    would not cost much making junctions more cycle friendly, installing
    more dropped kerbs and making some one way streets accessible to
    two-way cycle traffic.

    "Cycling is the most efficient way of getting round the city and it
    keeps you healthy too," he added.

    Fellow cycling campaigner Richard Bearman, said: "I am very sceptical
    that the county council will invest money in promoting cycling in
    Norwich. We have had these promises made by the city council in the
    past but the county council holds the purse strings and they are more
    interested in promoting car travel with schemes like the NDR."

    What do you think about the city council's cycling plans? Write to
    Letters, Evening News, Prospect House, Rouen Road, Norwich, NR1 1RE,
    or email [email hidden]"

    --
    Tony

    "The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
    right."
    - Lord Hailsham

  2. Quoted message said:

    but a lot can be done to improve it for cyclists [...] installing more
    dropped kerbs

    Eh?

  3. Mark Thompson said:
    Quoted message said:

    but a lot can be done to improve it for cyclists [...] installing more
    dropped kerbs

    Eh?

    well how else do the pavement cyclists cross the road?

  4. "Mark Thompson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but a lot can be done to improve it for cyclists [...] installing more
    dropped kerbs

    Eh?

    Well to allow cyclists using those horrible "were footpaths now are
    shared-use facilities by simple application of white outline bicycle in
    paint to the footpath" There's loads of those in Naarch and they are a
    bugger to know where they start/end due to poor signage. In Naarch I cycle
    on road, as it's much simpler and convenient.

    Cheers, helen s

  5. wafflycat said:


    "Mark Thompson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but a lot can be done to improve it for cyclists [...] installing more
    dropped kerbs

    Eh?

    Well to allow cyclists using those horrible "were footpaths now are
    shared-use facilities by simple application of white outline bicycle in
    paint to the footpath" There's loads of those in Naarch and they are a
    bugger to know where they start/end due to poor signage. In Naarch I
    cycle on road, as it's much simpler and convenient.

    Cheers, helen s

    Assuming you enter Norwich via the showground roundabout, do you cycle
    on the A1074 rather than use the shared path next to it? I find that
    road very intimidating - it's not very wide and populated by psychotic
    Park and Ride bus drivers, refuse trucks going to the Costessey
    recycling centre and Chav-type boy racers going to/from McDonalds at
    Sainsburys.

    That's one cycle path I *do* use...

    --
    Chris

  6. "Chris Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Assuming you enter Norwich via the showground roundabout, do you cycle on
    the A1074 rather than use the shared path next to it? I find that road
    very intimidating - it's not very wide and populated by psychotic Park and
    Ride bus drivers, refuse trucks going to the Costessey recycling centre
    and Chav-type boy racers going to/from McDonalds at Sainsburys.

    That's one cycle path I *do* use...

    --
    Chris

    I've used that one once, heading into the city and then on to the bus/cycle
    lane.

    I don't use it heading out of the city, I just cycle in the primary position
    along there. So far no problems other than it can be a tad hairy in the rush
    hour traffic.

    Cheers, helen s

  7. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Copied from the Cambridge Cycling Campaign list:

    http://tinyurl.com/bpawf

    "A cycling revolution could be unleashed in Norwich in a bid to
    unblock the city's traffic-chocked streets.

    The ruling Lib Dem group on the city council says it wants to oversee
    a 50 per cent increase cycling throughout Norwich by building a
    network of new cycle routes.

    <rest snipped>

    Their methods may be questionable but their intentions are excellent. They
    should be congratulated -- then told how to do it right.

    T

  8. Tony W said:

    "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Copied from the Cambridge Cycling Campaign list:

    http://tinyurl.com/bpawf

    "A cycling revolution could be unleashed in Norwich in a bid to
    unblock the city's traffic-chocked streets.

    The ruling Lib Dem group on the city council says it wants to oversee
    a 50 per cent increase cycling throughout Norwich by building a
    network of new cycle routes.

    <rest snipped>

    Their methods may be questionable but their intentions are excellent. They
    should be congratulated -- then told how to do it right.

    T


    i wholeheartedly agree....

  9. Tony

    If you want to radically increase cycling with very little cost, then
    campaign for a 20mph speed limit throughout the urban areas of Norwhich.

    It costs very little and is of far more benefit that cycle facilities of
    dubious value. Most importantly pedestrians gain from a safer environement.

    Happy Christmas

    Rod King

    "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Copied from the Cambridge Cycling Campaign list:

    http://tinyurl.com/bpawf

    "A cycling revolution could be unleashed in Norwich in a bid to
    unblock the city's traffic-chocked streets.

    The ruling Lib Dem group on the city council says it wants to oversee
    a 50 per cent increase cycling throughout Norwich by building a
    network of new cycle routes.

    Members of the authority's executive came up with the radical plans at
    a meeting last night, as it debated Norfolk County Council's Local
    Transport Plan.

    While the county wants to increase cycling by 5 per cent, the city
    council agreed that figure must be stretched in urban areas to mirror
    cities like Cambridge and York, where more than a fifth of people
    cycle to work.

    The potential cost of any scheme was not discussed at the meeting, but
    city leaders must now persuade transport bosses at the county council
    to allocate a slice of its budget to building new cycle routes
    throughout the city.

    Lib Dem city councillor Derek Wood said: "Cycling gives us the great
    opportunity to get cars off the road, but I think five per cent is way
    below what we can achieve.

    "It is a more regular and quick way of getting about than going by
    bus. And you can still get on a bike after 6pm when you don't seem to
    be able to get a bus.

    "By investing a relatively small amount of money, we have the key to
    getting people in and around the city efficiently."

    According to the Norwich Cycle Campaign group, around one in 10 people
    already cycle to work in Norwich - three times the national average.

    City Council bosses now hope to follow in the footsteps of Devon
    County Council to stretch that figure by 55 per cent in built-up areas
    by 2011.

    Before that can happen, council chiefs say more cash must be found to
    improve the cycle network around the city and encourage cyclists to be
    more visible.

    Judith Lubbock, the Liberal Dems' spokeswoman for transport, said:
    "The number of people cycling in Norwich has gone up but there is room
    for improvement.

    "I agree the target should be stretched for the city because it is
    much easier to make trips by bike around Norwich than in the country."

    Adrian Ramsay, a councillor for the Green Party said a stronger cycle
    network was necessary to encourage more people to get about using
    pedal power.

    He said: "We need a better network and very importantly better safety
    schemes on the roads.

    "We need to make sure there are enough funds to create a better cycle
    network around the city that people feel safe using. I am afraid too
    much money will go towards creating the new Northern Distributor Road.
    Providing better public transport links should be the priority."

    Mathew Williams of the Norwich Cycling Campaign, said: "We need to
    encourage more people to use bikes as their regular mode of transport.
    In Cambridge and York, around 22 per cent of people cycle to work
    which is twice as much as here in Norwich. I would say the network of
    roads is good but a lot can be done to improve it for cyclists. It
    would not cost much making junctions more cycle friendly, installing
    more dropped kerbs and making some one way streets accessible to
    two-way cycle traffic.

    "Cycling is the most efficient way of getting round the city and it
    keeps you healthy too," he added.

    Fellow cycling campaigner Richard Bearman, said: "I am very sceptical
    that the county council will invest money in promoting cycling in
    Norwich. We have had these promises made by the city council in the
    past but the county council holds the purse strings and they are more
    interested in promoting car travel with schemes like the NDR."

    What do you think about the city council's cycling plans? Write to
    Letters, Evening News, Prospect House, Rouen Road, Norwich, NR1 1RE,
    or email [email hidden]"

    --
    Tony

    "The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
    right."
    - Lord Hailsham

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