microwave ovens

dorsy1943 said:

I am not afraid of getting zapped by radiation from my microwave.
However, since I read that broccoli cooked in a microwave retains about
20% of its nutrients and broccoli steamed contains about 80 to 90 per
cent of nutrients, I use my microwave only rarely now and steam
vegetables instead.

Dorsy1943

I hope you read the rest of the discussion and learned that that broccoli cooked
in the microwave was overcooked in too much water which was drained off before
testing.

Ora

[email hidden] wrote:
: On 1 Jan 2006 06:47:36 -0800, "dorsy1943" <[email hidden]>
: wrote:
:
:: I am not afraid of getting zapped by radiation from my microwave.
:: However, since I read that broccoli cooked in a microwave retains
:: about 20% of its nutrients and broccoli steamed contains about 80 to
:: 90 per cent of nutrients, I use my microwave only rarely now and
:: steam vegetables instead.
::
:: Dorsy1943
:
: I hope you read the rest of the discussion and learned that that
: broccoli cooked in the microwave was overcooked in too much water
: which was drained off before testing.
:
: Ora

That is a claim you made, but you provided no evidence. If you are referring
to the full study by Vallejo F et al, please quote it, so that we all can
see it. There is no free access to the full study.

--
Juhana

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 20:46:36 +0200, "Juhana Harju" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] wrote:
: On 1 Jan 2006 06:47:36 -0800, "dorsy1943" <[email hidden]>
: wrote:
:
:: I am not afraid of getting zapped by radiation from my microwave.
:: However, since I read that broccoli cooked in a microwave retains
:: about 20% of its nutrients and broccoli steamed contains about 80 to
:: 90 per cent of nutrients, I use my microwave only rarely now and
:: steam vegetables instead.
::
:: Dorsy1943
:
: I hope you read the rest of the discussion and learned that that
: broccoli cooked in the microwave was overcooked in too much water
: which was drained off before testing.
:
: Ora

That is a claim you made, but you provided no evidence. If you are referring
to the full study by Vallejo F et al, please quote it, so that we all can
see it. There is no free access to the full study.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2004/Jun/05/il/il05a.html

I don't have the full article but would assume that the people in Honolulu did
have it because they gave some details that seem authentic.

Ora

[email hidden] wrote:
: On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 20:46:36 +0200, "Juhana Harju"
: <[email hidden]> wrote:
:
:: [email hidden] wrote:
::: On 1 Jan 2006 06:47:36 -0800, "dorsy1943" <[email hidden]>
::: wrote:
:::
:::: I am not afraid of getting zapped by radiation from my microwave.
:::: However, since I read that broccoli cooked in a microwave retains
:::: about 20% of its nutrients and broccoli steamed contains about 80
:::: to 90 per cent of nutrients, I use my microwave only rarely now and
:::: steam vegetables instead.
:::
::: I hope you read the rest of the discussion and learned that that
::: broccoli cooked in the microwave was overcooked in too much water
::: which was drained off before testing.
:::
:: That is a claim you made, but you provided no evidence. If you are
:: referring to the full study by Vallejo F et al, please quote it, so
:: that we all can see it. There is no free access to the full study.
:
: http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2004/Jun/05/il/il05a.html
:
: I don't have the full article but would assume that the people in
: Honolulu did have it because they gave some details that seem
: authentic.

Thanks. I have to admit that it is possible that there were flaws in the
study. That would also explain the reason why the study can not be found in
Medline. - Still I keep steaming my vegetables.

--
Juhana

Quoted message said:

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 20:46:36 +0200, "Juhana Harju" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] wrote:
: On 1 Jan 2006 06:47:36 -0800, "dorsy1943" <[email hidden]>
: wrote:
:
:: I am not afraid of getting zapped by radiation from my microwave.
:: However, since I read that broccoli cooked in a microwave retains
:: about 20% of its nutrients and broccoli steamed contains about 80 to
:: 90 per cent of nutrients, I use my microwave only rarely now and
:: steam vegetables instead.
::
:: Dorsy1943
:
: I hope you read the rest of the discussion and learned that that
: broccoli cooked in the microwave was overcooked in too much water
: which was drained off before testing.
:
: Ora

That is a claim you made, but you provided no evidence. If you are referring
to the full study by Vallejo F et al, please quote it, so that we all can
see it. There is no free access to the full study.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2004/Jun/05/il/il05a.html

I don't have the full article but would assume that the people in Honolulu did
have it because they gave some details that seem authentic.

Ora

Or you can Google

broccoli +microwaved +pressure

and find numerous other articles which pertain to the subject.

Ora

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 22:28:56 +0200, "Juhana Harju" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] wrote:
: On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 20:46:36 +0200, "Juhana Harju"
: <[email hidden]> wrote:
:
:: [email hidden] wrote:
::: On 1 Jan 2006 06:47:36 -0800, "dorsy1943" <[email hidden]>
::: wrote:
:::
:::: I am not afraid of getting zapped by radiation from my microwave.
:::: However, since I read that broccoli cooked in a microwave retains
:::: about 20% of its nutrients and broccoli steamed contains about 80
:::: to 90 per cent of nutrients, I use my microwave only rarely now and
:::: steam vegetables instead.
:::
::: I hope you read the rest of the discussion and learned that that
::: broccoli cooked in the microwave was overcooked in too much water
::: which was drained off before testing.
:::
:: That is a claim you made, but you provided no evidence. If you are
:: referring to the full study by Vallejo F et al, please quote it, so
:: that we all can see it. There is no free access to the full study.
:
: http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2004/Jun/05/il/il05a.html
:
: I don't have the full article but would assume that the people in
: Honolulu did have it because they gave some details that seem
: authentic.

Thanks. I have to admit that it is possible that there were flaws in the
study. That would also explain the reason why the study can not be found in
Medline. - Still I keep steaming my vegetables.

Me too, because they look and taste better.

Ora

I steam raw vegetables but when I run out, I dig into my big supply of
frozen veggies which I put in a dish without any added water, cover
with another dish and microwave. There is very little liquid in the
dish after microwaving and what is there I consume.

I surely would like to know there is no appreciable difference between
microwaving and steaming frozen vegetables because it is a heck of a
lot cheaper and easier and takes less time to microwave.

I also wonder about steaming. When done, the water beneath the
vegetables is always colored and I hope that doesn't mean nutrients are
lost in the water.

We are of Italian ancestory and when I was a kid I remember my mother
laughing at some of my aunts (through marriage) who cooked their
vegetables in water. "Can you believe that?",she would say. Mom only
used fresh vegetables and cooked them in olive oil. After a couple of
minutes in the pan she added just a touch of water which would steam
and then evaporate off.
None of us ever got fat from eating food cooked with the oil. Of
course we were a lot more active then--those were the days when for
most of the day only test patterns appeared on the tv screen.

Dolores
P.S.All this probably doesn't matter anyway. Ever since some marketing
genius invented those darn spray things, all the fresh vegies--even the
roots like beets and so on--are soaking wet. They have probably had
any nutrients left after shipping and storing soaked right out of them.
Sometimes I go back to the produce place and ask for unwashed
vegetables out of their fridge.