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Re: Ouch...My Seat Hurts!

terrybigwheel · 2006-01-08T01:53:54+00:00

To those who claim the KH saddle cannot be (or is usually not) converted into an airseat, read on. I just received my first KH "fusion" seat; for those who don't know, that means that the seat cover is removeable. The KH seats are VERY U-shaped for starters...I HATE that. (I am using the seat for long rides on my coker) So after removing the seat cover, I removed the foam as well, leaving the plastic seat and stiffener. I then used my heat gun while STANDING on the seat turned upside down, in order to "flatten" the seat by about 50%. Then I did the same thing to the seat post bracket. Then I bought a gel pad seat cover at my local bike shop, and a 12" inner tube. Drilled a hole for the stem, in the seat, used duct tape to secure the tube and keep it from expanding to far, then put the gel pad over the tube, then finally replaced the original seat cover, handle and rear bumper. NO FOAM NECESSARY! Then pumped it up a bit and WOW!!!!!! I rode it at the beach bike path for MILES with NO pain! I have a pic if anyone wants to have a look. You can email me at [email hidden]. Terry I have a 24" Torker LX Unicycle. I have only been riding for about a week, and usually less than 1/2 hour in a day due to seat area pain. I used to be able to ride uni 12 or so years ago, but for the most part, I would consider myself quite a novice again. My pain is usually a quick sharp burning pain in the groin area caused by the seat. I am not bruised or swollen that I can tell, and it only hurts when I am on the seat. It is making me not look forward to riding. Oh....and sometimes my family jewels will take a bit of a hit but it is nothing serious. It's kind of scary though! I saw an air or gel seat that I could buy for a hundred bucks. That is kind of a painful though being that I paid almost exactly as much for the whole unicycle being that this is my starter. I imagine that I should invest in a pair of bike shorts as well. Does anyone have any recommendations? +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Filename: kh_air2.jpg | |Download: http://www.unicyclist.com/attachment/11516 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- terrybigwheel ------------------------------------------------------------------------ terrybigwheel's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11418 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/31149

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terrybigwheel
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8 January 2006, 01:53 UTC #1

To those who claim the KH saddle cannot be (or is usually not) converted
into an airseat, read on. I just received my first KH "fusion" seat;
for those who don't know, that means that the seat cover is removeable.
The KH seats are VERY U-shaped for starters...I HATE that. (I am using
the seat for long rides on my coker) So after removing the seat cover,
I removed the foam as well, leaving the plastic seat and stiffener. I
then used my heat gun while STANDING on the seat turned upside down, in
order to "flatten" the seat by about 50%. Then I did the same thing to
the seat post bracket. Then I bought a gel pad seat cover at my local
bike shop, and a 12" inner tube. Drilled a hole for the stem, in the
seat, used duct tape to secure the tube and keep it from expanding to
far, then put the gel pad over the tube, then finally replaced the
original seat cover, handle and rear bumper. NO FOAM NECESSARY! Then
pumped it up a bit and WOW!!!!!! I rode it at the beach bike path for
MILES with NO pain! I have a pic if anyone wants to have a look. You
can email me at [email hidden].
Terry
toddly93614 said:
I have a 24" Torker LX Unicycle. I have only been riding for about a
week, and usually less than 1/2 hour in a day due to seat area pain. I
used to be able to ride uni 12 or so years ago, but for the most part,
I would consider myself quite a novice again.
My pain is usually a quick sharp burning pain in the groin area caused
by the seat. I am not bruised or swollen that I can tell, and it only
hurts when I am on the seat. It is making me not look forward to
riding. Oh....and sometimes my family jewels will take a bit of a hit
but it is nothing serious. It's kind of scary though!
I saw an air or gel seat that I could buy for a hundred bucks. That is
kind of a painful though being that I paid almost exactly as much for
the whole unicycle being that this is my starter. I imagine that I
should invest in a pair of bike shorts as well.
Does anyone have any recommendations?
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dajohnso4374
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8 January 2006, 03:03 UTC #2

Howdy,
I got a Torker LX 24" for Christmas. The stock LX saddle bruised me
badly after only a few sessions.
After reading through these forums, the standard Kris Holm saddle
sounded like the perfect solution.
Let me say, that the folks on this forum know what they are talking
about.
With one email back and fourth with the support folks at UDC to
determine the proper seat post and I placed the order.
United Seat Post with 4-bolt rectangular pillar bracket
Chromed steel seat post. Select the appropriate size.
Base price $10.00
Features/Options:
Seat Post Length 400-mm Add $4.00
Seat Post Diameter 25.4-mm (1-inch)
Quantity : 1
Price : $14.00
Kris Holm Saddle
(permanent black cover has Unicycle.com logo on the back)
Saddle comfort can make the difference between a fantastic or a
miserable
ride. Kris Holm manufactures the most comfortable and durable
standard
saddle available. Now available as a Fusion saddle or Air Saddle
Choice!
Base price $39.00
Features/Options:
Saddle Color Preference Black
Saddle Preference Permanant Cover (standard)
Quantity : 1
Price : $39.00
The price of the seatpost and saddle are a little over half the price
of the Uni, but are worth every penny.
I've been riding happily ever since.
The helpful support person at UDC was: Amy Drummond
http://www.unicycle.com
Do yourself a favor and place the order.
Darren Johnson
Grapevine, Texas
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dudewithasock
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8 January 2006, 03:19 UTC #3

dajohnso4374 said:
Howdy,
I got a Torker LX 24" for Christmas. The stock LX saddle bruised me
badly after only a few sessions.
After reading through these forums, the standard Kris Holm saddle
sounded like the perfect solution.
Let me say, that the folks on this forum know what they are talking
about.
With one email back and fourth with the support folks at UDC to
determine the proper seat post and I placed the order.
United Seat Post with 4-bolt rectangular pillar bracket
Chromed steel seat post. Select the appropriate size.
Base price $10.00
Features/Options:
Seat Post Length 400-mm Add $4.00
Seat Post Diameter 25.4-mm (1-inch)
Quantity : 1
Price : $14.00
Kris Holm Saddle
(permanent black cover has Unicycle.com logo on the back)
Saddle comfort can make the difference between a fantastic or a
miserable
ride. Kris Holm manufactures the most comfortable and durable
standard
saddle available. Now available as a Fusion saddle or Air Saddle
Choice!
Base price $39.00
Features/Options:
Saddle Color Preference Black
Saddle Preference Permanant Cover (standard)
Quantity : 1
Price : $39.00
The price of the seatpost and saddle are a little over half the price
of the Uni, but are worth every penny.
I've been riding happily ever since.
The helpful support person at UDC was: Amy Drummond
http://www.unicycle.com
Do yourself a favor and place the order.
Darren Johnson
Grapevine, Texas
I'm a little ignorant on these things, would that combination also work
successfully on a Torker CX 24"? I'm having a lot of saddle soreness on
my 1mile+ rides and would like a good solution.
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john_childs
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8 January 2006, 03:26 UTC #4

dudewithasock said:
I'm a little ignorant on these things, would that combination also work
successfully on a Torker CX 24"? I'm having a lot of saddle soreness on
my 1mile+ rides and would like a good solution.
The Torker CX has a small seat that it too small to be comfortable for
anyone over 7 years old. For the small tykes though, it's a great
seat.
The KH Fusion or one of the low profile half-height KH variations with
the gel pad would be a good saddle. They'd fit the same seatpost that
you have for the Torker CX.
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dudewithasock
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8 January 2006, 03:30 UTC #5

Aight so I'd just buy the seat, and reuse the same seatpost screws that
are on my current seatpost?
This'll probably be my choice, if so:
http://tinyurl.com/2k2jz
It comes with bumpers and screws for them, right?
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john_childs
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8 January 2006, 03:39 UTC #6

Yup, the seats come with the bolts and nuts necessary to attach them to
the seatpost.
The full height KH seats can be a little too constricting for some
folks (like me). The half height versions are more open (less deep of
a "U" shape) and more comfortable for some people. That's why the
ideal seat is a personal choice. What one person really likes may not
be what you end up thinking is the best seat.
The neat thing about the Fusion model is that the seat cover is
removable so you can trim down the foam to a shape that more suits you
if you so desire.
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dudewithasock
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8 January 2006, 03:41 UTC #7

Aight, cool. I'll spend the extra $15 for the Fusion cover then.
Thanks for the help! 🙂
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boo radley
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8 January 2006, 03:42 UTC #8

why not get the one with a handle? it's quite handy.
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8 January 2006, 03:59 UTC #9

boo radley said:
why not get the one with a handle? it's quite handy.
Would that work for learning freestyle tricks?
And also, would you recommend shelling out an extra 40 bucks for the KH
air saddle, or just the 15 for the fusion cover?
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8 January 2006, 04:06 UTC #10

well the air saddle is better for Muni or distance rides that arent too
long.. for freestyle i'd say stick with the fusion since you wont
really need the comfort of an air saddle.. but I was wondering why not
a miyata saddle ?
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dudewithasock
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8 January 2006, 04:10 UTC #11

maxisback said:
but I was wondering why not a miyata saddle ?
Ummm...are those good too? I'm just going on what people are
recommending.
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8 January 2006, 04:11 UTC #12

sideways wheel walk is the only thing i can think of right now where it
would get in the way. i've never tried an air saddle, but the fusion
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8 January 2006, 04:13 UTC #13

boo radley said:
sideways wheel walk is the only thing i can think of right now where it
would get in the way. i've never tried an air saddle, but the fusion
is worth it.
K, non-handle fusion top KH seat it is then.
I'll get the handle for when I buy my muni later this year.
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8 January 2006, 04:53 UTC #14

dudewithasock said:
Would that work for learning freestyle tricks?
And also, would you recommend shelling out an extra 40 bucks for the KH
air saddle, or just the 15 for the fusion cover?
Don't get an air saddle for freestyle. Air saddles are bad for
freestyle. Too squishy like a water bed. Foam is the only way to go
for freestyle.
You can get the freestyle handle (which is just a front bumper) from
Unicycle.com. Picture here: 'Kris Holm Saddle Handles'
(http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=787). The freestyle
handle is on the right and the regular handle is on the left. The
Fusion saddle can be dismantled since the seat cover is removable. You
can replace the normal KH handle with the freestyle handle (bumper) if
you so choose. Just cost's a little extra money for the extra handle.
My 'airseat gallery' (http://gallery.unicyclist.com/Airseat) has
pictures of a disassembled Fusion seat (scroll down to the bottom). It
is easy to take a Fusion seat apart. My airseat gallery also shows how
you can make your own air seat. It is easy to do and you can do a
better job than what you get from Unicycle.com. So if you do want an
air seat just make your own. It's quite easy with the Fusion saddle.
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