Re: Q's on bad training ride

Jeff Jones said:

Jeff (who went "hill training" in 36 degree heat on Sunday morning
after three hours sleep and an unknown quantity of amber rehydrating
fluid the previous night)

36 Degrees C or Degrees F?

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Jeff Jones said:

Jeff (who went "hill training" in 36 degree heat on Sunday morning
after three hours sleep and an unknown quantity of amber rehydrating
fluid the previous night)

36 Degrees C or Degrees F?

I suspect he glommed the JCTUD coverage and meant serious heat.

Jeff Jones said:

Too bloody cold, no matter how well you are dressed. You still have to
breathe the air.

Don't be ridiculous. Dressing for riding at -7 C is still pretty trivial.
Breathing might feel nasty at first, on the first cold rides of the
year, but you soon get used to it. -20 C is a different story - I think
that's when they stop running cross country skiing competitions, for example.

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Another weird thing : just as my hands began to warm up, my feet began to
freeze.

Mine do that too. Have a day off.

Keeping the feet warm is the most difficult thing. I wear
bottom-of-the-line Shimano SPD shoes when I ride at winter, plus really
warm overshoes like this:

http://www.bobshop.de/out/oxbaseshop/html/0/dyn_images/1/968.jpg

This combination is good enough for three hours at -10 C. With shoes
designed for winter riding you could go much lower than that.

Antti (who likes everything from -10 to 35 C, as long as it doesn't rain)

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Sandy said:

What about your thoughts ? I am truly puzzled, as I had no mental or
physical sensation of fatigue, but just could not get moving. I
dropped out and took a shortcut home.

Too bloody cold, no matter how well you are dressed. You still have to
breathe the air. I find training in the cold is really difficult and
slow. 30 km/h avg on the flat is good for me in cold (zero celsius)
conditions. I don't feel halfway decent until it's 10 degrees. 20 is
perfect for me.

The breathing was no problem. I have asthma (cats, particularly) which can
sometimes be cold induced, but as I wrote, no such episode. 30 is what old
bones like mine like.

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Another weird thing : just as my hands began to warm up, my feet
began to freeze.

Mine do that too. Have a day off.

Thanks. Needed permission. You too.

--
Sandy
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Il n'est aucune sorte de sensation qui soit plus vive
que celle de la douleur ; ses impressions sont sûres,
elles ne trompent point comme celles du plaisir.
- de Sade.

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Jeff (who went "hill training" in 36 degree heat on Sunday morning
after three hours sleep and an unknown quantity of amber rehydrating
fluid the previous night)

"Sandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thanks. Needed permission. You too.

what do you mean? the good Marquis would never let a little thing like the
cold interfere with his pleasureable suffering. nothing like a good
bronchite to look back upon with fondness as the days grow longer.

Sandy said:

I suspect he glommed the JCTUD coverage and meant serious heat.

Yep. But I pity the riders who had to do 4 hours in 40 degrees for four
days in a row.

Jeff