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  1. Hey guys -

    Mike Rice asked:

    Quoted message said:

    Are you [Wayne] now going to ask me to limit my responses
    to one per post?

    No. Rice is nice; we like Mike. I seriously appreciate the
    calm, conciliatory - but not concessionary - tone of most
    of Indiana Mike's postings. E.g.,

    Quoted message said:

    I don't mind Ed when he's being close to civil.

    But please bear in mind that "close to civil" is about the
    best we're likely to get from this TROLL. As Jeff Grippe
    said about Ed in another lifetime, quite accurately even
    if (uncharacteristically) a tad unkind:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You can't "be nice". You can "act nice" for short
    stretches but that isn't the same thing. Basically at
    your core I would have to say you are nasty. You return
    to nasty every time.

    Mike mused:

    Quoted message said:

    I only wish we had more active members in this group so
    his voice would be a smaller percentage of total
    messages.

    Ah, but sadly one of the defining characteristics of a
    true TROLL - despite its pathetic attempts to redefine
    the term to fit anyone who has made it a tad mad lately -
    is that it is still very likely to do its worst in
    reply to almost every post. Note that 10 of 21 posts in
    this thread are the TROLL's. The more other folks write,
    the more prolix the TROLL becomes, even though most of
    its blather is blatant repetition. Speaking of which,
    this rant redux from the rabid rascal:

    Quoted message said:

    You will note how much shorter my time is going to be
    spent on you henceforth [sic].

    Whoa! Was that stilted mess supposed to mean: "I will
    spend much less time replying to you from now on"? If so:
    Promises, promises... but maybe he should at least try
    to keep it down to a single reply for each of my posts?
    The noise continues:

    Quoted message said:

    ... if I [Edgy] am not reading what he [Wayne] is
    writing, then that means no one is.

    Hmm-mm... Isn't that very close to the classical clinical
    definition of insanity?

    Quoted message said:

    NYC [posts] a hundred times better than Wayne. Heaven's
    [sic] to Betsy...

    Have we finally convinced the TROLL that top posting (3
    out of 4 on this thread for NYC) is really not all that
    bad? I especially liked NYC's one word one-liner: "Gong!"

    Quoted message said:

    Life is to [sic] short...

    HOMOPHONE ALERT!

    Quoted message said:

    I do not know why my spell check does not pick up stuff
    like [stupid misusage such as wrong words. Maybe] I
    don't always use the spell check on every paragraph[?]
    The ones I miss are going to be full of typos... I like
    absolute terms. I use them all the time... I do not
    bother with all that nonsense about compound words...

    Which I believe is about as close as one can get in
    TROLL-speak for "I'm a sloppy, lazy and embarrassingly
    incompetent writer". Oh well, it's at least a marginal
    improvement over this [censored] from a year or so ago:

    Quoted message said:

    I never make errors. Typos, yes, but not errors... I
    am hardly ever wrong about the use of words... I do
    not make spelling errors. When you see an error by Ed
    [superlative deleted], you can rest assured that it is
    merely a typo... I only use the spell check to correct
    typos. There are very few words that I do not know how
    to spell. I used to win spelling contests when I was a
    kid in school... if I were writing to anyone except the
    morons and imbeciles who populate this newsgroup in
    great numbers, everything would be letter perfect.

    The letters are fine; it's the words that need work, and
    the types of errors proliferated by this TROLL highlight
    three issues for which "the clarity is crystal clear":
    Ed has no talent for writing; if he has had any serious
    training in creative or technical writing, he has long
    since forgotten most of it; and the poor putz has never
    had a purposefully proficient proofreader peruse his
    pitiable prose.

    Quoted message said:

    [Wayne] is a bit of a wordsmith, but that is all he is.

    Now that hurts! This TROLL is so fickle. Just last year
    he assured me I was an Olympic class athlete since I can
    ride a tadpole trike faster than 15 MPH without waggling
    all over the road. I guess he was just 'acting nice'...

    More? ...
    Wayne

  2. "LoGo USA" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]

    Edward Dolan said:
    Quoted message said:

    You will note how much shorter my time is going to be
    spent on you henceforth [sic].

    Whoa! Was that stilted mess supposed to mean: "I will
    spend much less time replying to you from now on"? If so:
    Promises, promises... but maybe he should at least try
    to keep it down to a single reply for each of my posts?

    It is really quite laughable how the Poet of [censored] thinks he can improve on
    my style by substituting his. My meaning is crystal clear whereas his
    rewording does not mean at all what I meant. It just goes to show that you
    cannot improve upon perfection.

    It does not matter how many replies there are to a post provided the
    pertinent passages have been included - or did I already say that once or
    twice before?
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    NYC [posts] a hundred times better than Wayne. Heaven's
    [sic] to Betsy...

    Have we finally convinced the TROLL that top posting (3
    out of 4 on this thread for NYC) is really not all that
    bad? I especially liked NYC's one word one-liner: "Gong!"

    All top poster are idiots and will continue to be idiots until the day they
    die. But I grow weary of wasting my precious time on those who cannot learn.
    Their ignorance is unconquerable.
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I never make errors. Typos, yes, but not errors... I
    am hardly ever wrong about the use of words... I do
    not make spelling errors. When you see an error by Ed
    [superlative deleted], you can rest assured that it is
    merely a typo... I only use the spell check to correct
    typos. There are very few words that I do not know how
    to spell. I used to win spelling contests when I was a
    kid in school... if I were writing to anyone except the
    morons and imbeciles who populate this newsgroup in
    great numbers, everything would be letter perfect.

    Yup, I agree with myself 100%!

    Quoted message said:

    The letters are fine; it's the words that need work, and
    the types of errors proliferated by this TROLL highlight
    three issues for which "the clarity is crystal clear":
    Ed has no talent for writing; if he has had any serious
    training in creative or technical writing, he has long
    since forgotten most of it; and the poor putz has never
    had a purposefully proficient proofreader peruse his
    pitiable prose.

    Wayne is out of his element when it comes to writing simple prose that
    anyone we would ever want to read. He overuses the colon and the semicolon,
    something only a half educated idiot would do. He gets away with murder with
    his verse because no one reads it. That is the advantage of being a poet.

    However, I do admit that I am more of a reader than a writer. In fact, I
    have written very little in the course of my life, but I have read much.
    When you read you do not necessarily become a proficient writer. In order to
    become that, you have to write. There is no substitute for it.

    Wayne has most likely written more than me, but he is not nearly so well
    read as is obvious from his canyons of ignorance which is ever on display
    every time he posts a message to ARBR.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [Wayne] is a bit of a wordsmith, but that is all he is.

    Now that hurts! This TROLL is so fickle. Just last year
    he assured me I was an Olympic class athlete since I can
    ride a tadpole trike faster than 15 MPH without waggling
    all over the road. I guess he was just 'acting nice'...

    I would like to see you try the above on my early version TerraTrike.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

    PS. Wayne is working much harder at his posts than I am at mine. It is more
    work to edit single lines inserting names inside of brackets than it is to
    do it my way - which is the correct way in any event. It pays to be lazy and
    smart like me!

  3. Hey guys (and at least one girl?!!!) -

    While trying to clear some brush from under one of our
    local bridges, I ran across an ugly critter who calls

    himself Ed said:

    I have written very little in the course of my life...

    If his writing at ARBR is typical, I can see why. It has
    taken him so many words to write so little here; perhaps
    a bit less repetition?

    Quoted message said:

    When you read you do not necessarily become a proficient
    writer.

    Especially if you model your style after the screenplay
    of an early talkie, a Jane Austen tale where the dialog
    writer was making a serious dent in the studio's wine
    budget, while producing jewels such as: "Henceforth,
    scoundrel, forego ever to the province of vandals and
    villains, thus consorting with knaves of the nether
    regions and castigating the profundity of libidinous
    onanists to the perpetual sorrow of great saints..."

    This TROLL is so fickle. Only a few hours after he doted
    on NYC because he could "write a post a hundred times
    better than" me, when I pointed out that NYC had popped
    off a top post or three, ol' Edgy changed his tune to:

    Quoted message said:

    All top poster [sic] are idiots and will continue to be
    idiots until the day they die.

    I'm sure that's the hidden clue to this week's mystery
    movie, but is it 'Intolerance', 'Unforgiven' or 'The End
    of the Affair'?

    Quoted message said:

    ... you cannot improve upon perfection... writing simple
    prose that anyone we [huh?] would ever want to read...
    as is obvious from his canyons of ignorance which is ever
    on display [huh?]... My meaning is crystal clear...

    Oh, well, okay then...

    Quoted message said:

    [Wayne] overuses the colon...

    Oh no, no, no... Edgy's much too modest; the (rectal)
    colon is one area where I readily admit he has repeatedly
    demonstrated his prolixity and established his peerless
    preeminence. I have already suggested an honorary title
    for him in recognition: Number One of Number Two.

    Quoted message said:

    I would like to see [Wayne go fast] on my early version
    TerraTrike.

    NOTE TO ED: Please email me off list for a 'Ship To:'
    address; I'll videotape my ride and have the trike back
    to you (freight collect, of course) before the roads
    begin to thaw in Minnesota (around August, right?).
    Please include the anchor or whatever you use for brakes.
    I'll pay my own medical expenses, and if there's a market
    for the video, we'll go 50-50, okay?

    Quoted message said:

    It pays to be lazy and smart like me [Edgy]!

    And if we're very lucky he may soon even be wealthy enough
    to retire from TROLLing here at ARBR. Preorder your copy
    of the DVD today!

    More? ...
    Wayne

  4. "LoGo USA" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]

    Edward Dolan wrote:
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    When you read you do not necessarily become a proficient
    writer.

    Especially if you model your style after the screenplay
    of an early talkie, a Jane Austen tale where the dialog
    writer was making a serious dent in the studio's wine
    budget, while producing jewels such as: "Henceforth,
    scoundrel, forego ever to the province of vandals and
    villains, thus consorting with knaves of the nether
    regions and castigating the profundity of libidinous
    onanists to the perpetual sorrow of great saints..."

    Wayne only knows individual words. He does not know how to string them
    together so they make any sense. But that is the way his verse is too. Words
    are strung together which upon reflection make no sense.

    Quoted message said:

    This TROLL is so fickle. Only a few hours after he doted
    on NYC because he could "write a post a hundred times
    better than" me, when I pointed out that NYC had popped
    off a top post or three, ol' Edgy changed his tune to:

    Quoted message said:

    All top poster [sic] are idiots and will continue to be
    idiots until the day they die.

    I'm sure that's the hidden clue to this week's mystery
    movie, but is it 'Intolerance', 'Unforgiven' or 'The End
    of the Affair'?

    Fine writing has fallen on hard times for the past several generations. I
    attribute it to the TV and the computer. No one is reading works of
    literature anymore. The 19th century was a golden age of literature and we
    will never see its like again. Instead, we are stuck with idiots like Wayne
    who is just barely literate and is devoid of all taste. The latter is the
    more serious omission.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ... you cannot improve upon perfection... writing simple
    prose that anyone we [huh?] would ever want to read...
    as is obvious from his canyons of ignorance which is ever
    on display [huh?]... My meaning is crystal clear...

    Oh, well, okay then...

    Quoted message said:

    [Wayne] overuses the colon...

    Oh no, no, no... Edgy's much too modest; the (rectal)
    colon is one area where I readily admit he has repeatedly
    demonstrated his prolixity and established his peerless
    preeminence. I have already suggested an honorary title
    for him in recognition: Number One of Number Two.

    The above paragraph contains one semicolon and one colon respectively. Wayne
    can't write anything without resorting to these useless crutches. That is
    because he can't compose the kind of sentences that don't require them. His
    verse, which does require them, has made him stupid.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I would like to see [Wayne go fast] on my early version
    TerraTrike.

    NOTE TO ED: Please email me off list for a 'Ship To:'
    address; I'll videotape my ride and have the trike back
    to you (freight collect, of course) before the roads
    begin to thaw in Minnesota (around August, right?).
    Please include the anchor or whatever you use for brakes.
    I'll pay my own medical expenses, and if there's a market
    for the video, we'll go 50-50, okay?

    Nope, can't be done! Not on my TT, and not on the fabled Greenspeed either.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It pays to be lazy and smart like me [Edgy]!

    And if we're very lucky he may soon even be wealthy enough
    to retire from TROLLing here at ARBR. Preorder your copy
    of the DVD today!

    Wealth has little to do with intelligence. I thought every poet would know
    at least that much.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  5. "LoGo USA" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hey again gang -

    The TROLL openly complimented my flippant imitation of
    his writing:

    Quoted message said:

    Words are strung together which upon reflection make
    no sense.

    Praise modestly accepted. I was afraid I'd have a harder
    time capturing the full flavor of his purportedly
    inimitable style.

    My style IS inimitable which is why I can't disguise myself like some
    others.

    Quoted message said:

    When I complied with his wish to see a high-speed stable
    ride on his tadpole, he (not too surprisingly) reneged,
    saying:

    Quoted message said:

    Nope, can't be done! Not on my TT, and not on the
    fabled Greenspeed either.

    Greenspeed is not a fable.

    The Greenspeed is the tadpole to which all other tadpoles are compared.
    Therefore, it is fabled in that sense.

    Although we don't sell their

    Quoted message said:

    tadpoles in our shop, I've ridden with at least 10 or 12
    in our local recumbent rides, and I'm sure that all of
    them exceeded 15 MPH at some point. In fact we didn't
    lose any of them even flying from Ojai or Rincon Hill
    down to Ventura, where speeds are apt to be at least in
    the 30s.

    I know two others who have Greenspeeds and they experience exactly the same
    phenomenon as I do on my TT. They do not handle well at speed.

    Quoted message said:

    To my tease that he might become wealthy enough to retire
    from TROLLing here at ARBR, he commented:

    Quoted message said:

    Wealth has little to do with intelligence.

    I see... sort of like that reply has little to do with
    my comment? Or did he mean to say that he might become
    rich enough, but he'll never get smart enough?

    I am as poor as a church mouse and have been all of my life. I do not let
    this bother me in the least because I know I am wealthy in culture. I do not
    know what I would do with wealth. I am already wealthy in leisure, the only
    kind of wealth that matters to me. With my leisure I pursue culture
    (science, literature and the arts)) What else is there that is more
    worthwhile than that?
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    One wonders if this TROLL honestly has a REAL(!) serious
    short term memory problem, or if he truly is dumb enough
    to believe he can BS his way through a brick wall. If
    anyone who cares somehow missed it, let me make it clear:
    part of my purpose in pinging this TROLL is to point
    out the irony of his pompously snide posts in the past,
    picking nits in other posters' serious, sincere, on-topic
    messages. Mr. Kettle [aka the TROLL] is not only a black,
    black pot on the outside; he's charred by hellfire all
    the way to the depths of his devious old soul.

    The above would read better if you put it into verse, would it not?

    Every message is sui generis with me and there is little if any connection
    among my messages. I am strictly a responder and not a troll at all. Did you
    not read Gary's message about trolls? You are on a wild goose chase if you
    think you can pin me down by resurrecting my old posts.

    Quoted message said:

    Next he blundered into the '99% of cyclists do not like
    trolls' thread, commenting on Gary's fairly accurate
    description of our TROLL, with this piece:

    Quoted message said:

    I am going to save it and give it to [Wayne], who thinks
    I am a troll. It will clear up the matter once and for
    all.

    That should have read 'knows', not "thinks", but sadly
    it seems to have made no more of an impression on ARBR's
    TROLL than the previous (roughly 200?) postings saying
    essentially the same thing about him, and begging him to
    cut the [censored]. But it may be interesting to see exactly
    how he's going to "save it and give it to" me. Reminder
    to Ed: It's the year 2006 - the internet, all that sort
    of newfangled stuff, you know?

    I sometimes think you are only reading my messages, so I wanted to make sure
    that you read Gary's message about trolls by referencing it. As you can so
    plainly see, I do not meet any of the criteria that he sets forth for a
    troll. Truth to tell, you are more a troll than I am as well as being a
    stalker. The latter is the greater evil by far. You need to look in the
    mirror more. You are making a fool of yourself by your carrying on so.
    [...]

    but that doesn't explain why he started the 'any

    Quoted message said:

    inspirational stories?' thread on ARBR as a reply.

    Why not bring an interesting subject to ARBR? There is not much else going
    on here except for a lot of idiots saying nothing. I am going to do this
    more and more, mainly from RBM. That group did not allow itself to be
    destroyed by Ed Gin and Associates, unlike ARBR.

    It should be noted that Wayne Leggett, the Poet of ARBR, did absolutely
    nothing to defend ARBR from the criminal vandal troll. I hold him in
    contempt for that, not for his execrable verse. It is one thing to be stupid
    and a bad writer, but it is quite another thing to be a coward.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

    PS. I believe I will take this thread to RBM in the future as they might
    enjoy it too. No one else on ARBR is reading any of this and I do not write
    for just one person. I like to write for an audience of hundreds.

  6. Howdy folks -

    In the 'Tandem Bike-Riding "Technique"?' thread, the
    Wogster sensitively voiced his concern for the TROLL's
    mental health, saying:

    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to see anything Edward has written, that
    wasn't depressing, or sad. I think he needs to see
    someone about that...

    Yes, and I suppose as his most outspoken detractor, I
    should, at least temporarily, shuck the one-liner
    shtick and volunteer to help him overcome his
    "inimitable style". Here goes:

    To start with, the most basic advice given to all
    author wannabes: Never try to write about something
    that you don't know anything about. E.g., it's likely
    that most ARBR readers have about the same level of
    confidence in the validity of Edgy's concerns about
    stability of a modern tadpole at 15 MPH as they do for
    his repeated claims of immaculate conception. Whether
    his bizarre attitudes, observations and opinions about
    women are products of sincere ignorance or his oddly
    argumentative nature is anybody's guess...

    NOTE TO ED: If you value your credibility, I'd give
    serious second thought before you share any further
    convictions that dissecting and endlessly discussing a
    frumpy old poem about Hamlet, a guy named Prufrock and
    some creepy crawlies at the bottom of the ocean "is
    very exciting to do... and most [contemporary college]
    students love it." BEEP-BEEP-BEEP! REALITY CHECK!

    But the TROLL's major problem seems to be that he thinks
    good writing consists of taking a 15-word idea (original
    or more likely otherwise) and then confusing (if not
    completely losing) it in 12 paragraphs of superfluous,
    repetitive, hackneyed, ill-tempered, stilted drivel. Of
    course, usually before writing, he digs through that
    pile of 1950s magazines in his dining room to plagiarize
    a cultural commentary from an old New Yorker (if he can
    find one that isn't soaked in cat pee). Then he digs an
    archaic, obtuse word from the vocabulary column of an
    old Reader's Digest, and tosses that in even though it
    has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the post.

    TIP FOR ED: Insisting over and over again that
    "repetition is of the essense [sic]" tends to convince
    most readers of the exact opposite.

    For example, ol' Edgy has dumped this plagiarized bit
    upon us numerous times now: "I grow old. I grow old.
    I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled." How
    much better it would have been to write it only once,
    but blend in a hint of Jenny Joseph's 'Warning' (aka
    'When I am an Old Woman I Shall Wear Purple'😉 and flesh
    it out with some honest personal detail - like this,
    maybe:

    Chronologically I am old. Physically, mentally and
    spiritually I am very, very old - ancient. I ride my
    clunky old Comfort Cycle around town wearing dark brown
    Dickies Husky work pants - the old ones with the rolled
    cuffs - rather than cycling gear. I think it's better
    to try to blend in, and discourage all those rumors my
    neighbors keep spreading about an old single guy living
    alone except for his cats. But every now and then a cuff
    gets caught in my nasty, greasy chain; ooh, don't you
    just hate that?

    What I really want to wear is hanging in my closet:
    a pair of Vivid Violet mid-calf lycra tights. A "strait"
    guy might call them purple, but they are - oh - so much
    more than that. One of my favorite dreams is that some
    day (or is it 'someday'?) for one of their shows the Fab
    Five will do a makeover of an aging Midwestern recumbent
    cyclist, and he'll wear a pair of tights just like mine.

    See how much more real and believable that is? How it
    captivates the reading audience?

    TIP FOR READERS: If you're going to sample T.S. Eliot, go
    with 'Cats'.

    TIP FOR THE TROLL: Get rid of those damned musty, musky
    old magazines. If you expect to make new friends, go with
    cats.

    Regards,
    Wayne

  7. "LoGo USA" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Howdy folks -

    In the 'Tandem Bike-Riding "Technique"?' thread, the
    Wogster sensitively voiced his concern for the TROLL's
    mental health, saying:

    Quoted message said:

    I have yet to see anything Edward has written, that
    wasn't depressing, or sad. I think he needs to see
    someone about that...

    Yes, and I suppose as his most outspoken detractor, I
    should, at least temporarily, shuck the one-liner
    shtick and volunteer to help him overcome his
    "inimitable style". Here goes:

    To start with, the most basic advice given to all
    author wannabes: Never try to write about something
    that you don't know anything about. E.g., it's likely
    that most ARBR readers have about the same level of
    confidence in the validity of Edgy's concerns about
    stability of a modern tadpole at 15 MPH as they do for
    his repeated claims of immaculate conception. Whether
    his bizarre attitudes, observations and opinions about
    women are products of sincere ignorance or his oddly
    argumentative nature is anybody's guess...

    I am an expert on myself. That is what my messages are all about almost 100%
    of the time. If others find me interesting that should not concern you. If
    and when others do not find me interesting it will be time for me to find
    greener pastures. However, it must be noted that I pay equal attention to
    anyone who responds to me, so it is a two-way street in any event. By the
    way, that is also why I am not a troll. I engage with others, something a
    troll never does.

    Quoted message said:

    NOTE TO ED: If you value your credibility, I'd give
    serious second thought before you share any further
    convictions that dissecting and endlessly discussing a
    frumpy old poem about Hamlet, a guy named Prufrock and
    some creepy crawlies at the bottom of the ocean "is
    very exciting to do... and most [contemporary college]
    students love it." BEEP-BEEP-BEEP! REALITY CHECK!

    Do some research on the great poets of the 20th century. You have been
    examining your own navel exclusively long enough.

    Quoted message said:

    But the TROLL's major problem seems to be that he thinks
    good writing consists of taking a 15-word idea (original
    or more likely otherwise) and then confusing (if not
    completely losing) it in 12 paragraphs of superfluous,
    repetitive, hackneyed, ill-tempered, stilted drivel. Of
    course, usually before writing, he digs through that
    pile of 1950s magazines in his dining room to plagiarize
    a cultural commentary from an old New Yorker (if he can
    find one that isn't soaked in cat pee). Then he digs an
    archaic, obtuse word from the vocabulary column of an
    old Reader's Digest, and tosses that in even though it
    has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the post.

    Repetition is the basis of all learning. Everyone has to have knowledge and
    culture pounded into them, most particularly you.

    Quoted message said:

    TIP FOR ED: Insisting over and over again that
    "repetition is of the essense [sic]" tends to convince
    most readers of the exact opposite.

    Your "sics" make absolutely no sense to me. Are you crazy or what?

    Quoted message said:

    For example, ol' Edgy has dumped this plagiarized bit
    upon us numerous times now: "I grow old. I grow old.
    I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled." How
    much better it would have been to write it only once,
    but blend in a hint of Jenny Joseph's 'Warning' (aka
    'When I am an Old Woman I Shall Wear Purple'😉 and flesh
    it out with some honest personal detail - like this,
    maybe:

    No, it is perfect the way I do it. I choose not to trivialize everything
    like you do. You should confine your trivializations to yourself since that
    is what you are, a trivial person. I realize it can't be much fun to be a
    failed poet who is stuck running a shop. The best shop keepers are women.
    Hells Bells, they actually enjoy it.

    Quoted message said:

    Chronologically I am old. Physically, mentally and
    spiritually I am very, very old - ancient. I ride my
    clunky old Comfort Cycle around town wearing dark brown
    Dickies Husky work pants - the old ones with the rolled
    cuffs - rather than cycling gear. I think it's better
    to try to blend in, and discourage all those rumors my
    neighbors keep spreading about an old single guy living
    alone except for his cats. But every now and then a cuff
    gets caught in my nasty, greasy chain; ooh, don't you
    just hate that?

    What I really want to wear is hanging in my closet:
    a pair of Vivid Violet mid-calf lycra tights. A "strait"
    guy might call them purple, but they are - oh - so much
    more than that. One of my favorite dreams is that some
    day (or is it 'someday'?) for one of their shows the Fab
    Five will do a makeover of an aging Midwestern recumbent
    cyclist, and he'll wear a pair of tights just like mine.

    See how much more real and believable that is? How it
    captivates the reading audience?

    But all the above would be you, not me! Good Grief! You write the way you
    want and I will do the same. Let us leave it to the reader as to who is the
    more interesting person to read. I believe I have a better take on the ARBR
    reader than you do. Again, if I were writing for Atlantic Monthly, I would
    know how to get up to speed, but that kind of effort is wasted here.

    I will of course only reference T.S. Eliot when I am on the subject of the
    meaninglessness of life.

    By the way, there is no natural flow to your writing, unlike your verse. You
    are difficult to read. You should have someone critique your writing
    sometime. There is much room for improvement. You vaguely remind me of NYC
    as your styles are similar in some respects. You definitely need more focus
    as you consistently come across as scatterbrained.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  8. Hey -

    The TROLL (still attempting to BS his way through a brick
    wall?) insists:

    Quoted message said:

    Your [Wayne's] "sics" make absolutely no sense to me. Are
    you crazy or what?

    Well, for starters they're not my 'sics'; they were put
    out there for the world to witness by the marginally
    illiterate TROLL his-very-own-self. Am I crazy? No, if I
    were, I'd be spouting gibberish like: I am the unfortunate
    product of an immaculate conception. Actually I think it's
    much more likely that the TROLL is stupid or what.

    Quoted message said:

    Hells [sic] Bells...

    If one can't spell a phrase properly, why does he persist
    in overusing it? Is he stupid or what?

    Quoted message said:

    ... if I were writing for Atlantic Monthly...

    They would suggest that you dump it in the Pacific.

    Quoted message said:

    I engage with others... that is... why I am not a troll.

    Actually, that is the exact definition of a TROLL - a
    dark, unpleasant persona who stakes out a bridge (like
    ARBR) and pounces upon everyone who comes along, growling
    and stamping around, maybe even gnawing at a leg. Simple,
    inarguable fact: Ed = TROLL!

    Quoted message said:

    If and when others do not find me interesting it will be
    time for me to find greener pastures.

    If? IF?!!! The TROLL's idea of a private joke, I suppose.
    The TROLL redefinition of 'interesting' is: irritating.
    For the record, 'when' was at least two years ago. Hard
    evidence abounds in ARBR archives - oh, but the TROLL
    never looks up anything or goes to links. During his many
    'final farewells' (another bit of private TROLL humor?),
    has any real human poster at ARBR ever asked the TROLL to
    stay or welcomed his return? Nope, I'm pretty sure that
    there's no one here who wants to even 'date', much less
    become 'engaged' with this TROLL!

    The sad truth is that the TROLL considers ARBR a very
    green pasture. He has an utterly selfish disregard for
    anyone else's time, energy, peace of mind, sense of
    camaraderie or expectations of the newsgroup's utility.
    There have been - historically, for the most part - no
    other TROLLS here, and he has (sickly) enjoyed a sense
    of uniqueness, and all too often being the center of a
    lot of attention, even though it is all negative.

    Quoted message said:

    Teddy [Kennedy] is a thorough going [sic - again]
    skunk[;] I will connect with him more than I ever
    could with any woman.

    Okay... but I'm not sure Ted swings that way except in
    dire emergencies or in exchange for big-time political
    favors. Personally, I wouldn't feel very comfortable
    with either of these guys, especially around bridges.

    Quoted message said:

    I have many weapons in my arsenal...

    And the TROLL has shot himself in the foot with almost
    every single one of them.

    More? ...
    Wayne

  9. "LoGo USA" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]

    Edward Dolan said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hells [sic] Bells...

    If one can't spell a phrase properly, why does he persist
    in overusing it? Is he stupid or what?

    Have you not noted my signature? I am Great and you are a dwarf. That means
    I can write anything any damn way I please. If you don't like, you can lump
    it. So why don't you?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ... if I were writing for Atlantic Monthly...

    They would suggest that you dump it in the Pacific.

    Quoted message said:

    I engage with others... that is... why I am not a troll.

    Actually, that is the exact definition of a TROLL - a
    dark, unpleasant persona who stakes out a bridge (like
    ARBR) and pounces upon everyone who comes along, growling
    and stamping around, maybe even gnawing at a leg. Simple,
    inarguable fact: Ed = TROLL!

    Review the messages of Ed Gin from last winter. He was never responsive
    although I tried at first to engage him. He was a troll and I am not. Worse
    yet, he was a spamming troll who posted on threads that were irrelevant to
    his subject, which was all about going fast on some kind of crazy bike.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If and when others do not find me interesting it will be
    time for me to find greener pastures.

    If? IF?!!! The TROLL's idea of a private joke, I suppose.
    The TROLL redefinition of 'interesting' is: irritating.
    For the record, 'when' was at least two years ago. Hard
    evidence abounds in ARBR archives - oh, but the TROLL
    never looks up anything or goes to links. During his many
    'final farewells' (another bit of private TROLL humor?),
    has any real human poster at ARBR ever asked the TROLL to
    stay or welcomed his return? Nope, I'm pretty sure that
    there's no one here who wants to even 'date', much less
    become 'engaged' with this TROLL!

    Wayne Leggett finds me extremely interesting as this thread died and went to
    hell ages ago. But still he persists. That is a compliment to me of course.
    Yes, I remain the most interesting person ever to post to Usenet in its
    entire history. That goes without saying, but I will say it anyway because I
    am so Great.

    Quoted message said:

    The sad truth is that the TROLL considers ARBR a very
    green pasture. He has an utterly selfish disregard for
    anyone else's time, energy, peace of mind, sense of
    camaraderie or expectations of the newsgroup's utility.
    There have been - historically, for the most part - no
    other TROLLS here, and he has (sickly) enjoyed a sense
    of uniqueness, and all too often being the center of a
    lot of attention, even though it is all negative.

    See Ed Gin's posts from last winter. He was the only troll ever to infest
    ARBR that I am aware of. I am comabative and that is all I am (besides being
    Great of course).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Teddy [Kennedy] is a thorough going [sic - again]
    skunk[;] I will connect with him more than I ever
    could with any woman.


    [...]

    I do not like overly long words and I do not like semicolons, or did I
    already say that once or twice before. Oh, by the way, I still don't like
    compound words either. The longest word I have used recently was
    meaninglessness. God, that is one ugly looking word. It sounds bad too.
    Let's leave the long words to the Germans and the semicolons to the verse
    scribblers like you.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

    PS. I have taken this thread to RBM so they can enjoy Wayne Leggett, the
    Poet of ARBR (familiarly known as the Poet of [censored]), making a fool of
    himself. Maybe they can make some sense out of him, because I sure can't. I
    mean, I just get so tired of calling him an idiot all the time. Wayne
    Leggett is mainly into ass and sex like all failed poets. I have deleted
    from this message his customary allusions to ass and sex to spare the
    sensitivities of RBM members.

  10. Hey ARBR folks and whoever else Ed is annoying lately -

    The old BS blaster bleated:

    Quoted message said:

    I have taken this thread to RBM so [BLAH, BLAH, BLAH]...
    I am very much opposed to cross-posting. I am only doing
    a very limited amount of it with RBM in the hopes of
    [BLAH, BLAH, BLAH]...

    No phony explanations or lying rationalizations needed -
    it's a natural process for a cross poster to become a
    cross-poster; it's called degeneration. The only thing
    the TROLL has said on the subject that I believe is:

    Quoted message said:

    That way lies bedlam.

    More TROLLish treatise:

    Quoted message said:

    ... ass and sex... ass and sex... ass and sex... ass
    and sex... ass and sex... ass and sex...

    Is that connection hardwired in this TROLL's brain, or
    is it yet another "mysterious allusion" to his personal
    preferences which we are expected to 'glean from his
    prolix profundity'?

    Interestingly, the TROLL who swears:

    Quoted message said:

    I never edit posts... I respond completely...

    seems to have missed on both counts with his last
    (half-assed) reply to mine. Maybe since he cross-posted
    it to RBM, he wanted to avoid a bit of self-embarrassment
    for hinting at a more intimate relationship with Senator
    Kennedy than being merely 'bridge partners'. Even if the
    devious deviant has given up denying his limp-wristed
    leanings, I suspect he would still prefer that no other
    Usenet groups learn he's lusting for a left-wing liberal.

    He also seems to have either ignored or accepted my direct
    answer to this question:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    During his many 'final farewells' (another bit of
    private TROLL humor?), has any real human poster at
    ARBR ever asked the TROLL to stay or welcomed his
    return? Nope...

    But it seems to me that Ed had a bit of an off night. Was
    he maybe spending too much time viewing and re-viewing
    pirated VCDs of 'Brokeback Mountain' to meet his usual
    quota of bigoted BS on Usenet?

    Quoted message said:

    I can't decided [sic] whether I am more a King, a Great
    Saint or a God!

    I'm sure that he would find a much better fit if he would
    simply expand his categories to include pitiable speller
    and TROLL. After all as I, along with many others, have
    pointed out:

    Quoted message said:

    ... that is the persona [Ed has] assumed for Usenet
    purposes.

    Well, most of us do the best we can with whatever brains
    and talents we have; a person who does less but claims
    he is capable of much, much more is almost always a
    bald-faced liar. The question remains: Is Ed truly dumb
    enough to believe he can BS his way through a brick wall?

    Like any monkey on a typewriter is bound to do eventually
    Ol' Fumble Fingers did come up with one good (even if
    hopelessly unoriginal) suggestion:

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe we [TROLLS] could get our own newsgroup where all
    we would ever do is slam one another.

    Could, should and please! And hey, why not call it Monkey
    Island? I hope the fools have fun. As always, I'm ready
    to get back to recumbents here.

    More? ...
    Wayne

  11. LoGo USA said:

    ....
    More TROLLish treatise:

    Quoted message said:

    ... ass and sex... ass and sex... ass and sex... ass
    and sex... ass and sex... ass and sex...

    Hmmm... See
    <http://www.arur.de/liegerad-cartoons1.html?&tx_lzgallery_pi1[showUid]=77&tx_lzgallery_pi1[old]=5x5x1&tx_lzgallery_pi1[pic]=15&tx_lzgallery_pi1[colrows]=1x1>.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

  12. "LoGo USA" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Edward Dolan wrote:
    [...]

    All top posters are idiots!

    Anyone who does give any attributions is also an idiot!
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    More TROLLish treatise:

    Quoted message said:

    ... ass and sex... ass and sex... ass and sex... ass
    and sex... ass and sex... ass and sex...

    Don't believe me? Just review his previous post and you will see his mindset
    displayed in all its glory. His poetry on ARBR is full of nothing but
    allusions to ass and sex. A failed poet is a fearsome thing to contemplate.
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    He also seems to have either ignored or accepted my direct
    answer to this question:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    During his many 'final farewells' (another bit of
    private TROLL humor?), has any real human poster at
    ARBR ever asked the TROLL to stay or welcomed his
    return? Nope...

    Wayne Leggett never gets any responses at all except from me. All the world
    knows that poets are sissies and are into themselves. He likes to use lots
    of ellipses, colons, semicolons and brackets to show us how dumb he is. But
    he does not have to prove anything to me. I KNOW how dumb he is. He is dummy
    dumb. I mean dumber than dumb. Like dumb, dumb, dumb.
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Well, most of us do the best we can with whatever brains
    and talents we have; a person who does less but claims
    he is capable of much, much more is almost always a
    bald-faced liar. The question remains: Is Ed truly dumb
    enough to believe he can BS his way through a brick wall?

    I would be a fool to waste much time and effort on newgroups that are full
    of nothing but idiots. But is Wayne Leggett telling us that this is as goods
    he gets. Reread what he has written and come to your own conclusions.

    Quoted message said:

    Like any monkey on a typewriter is bound to do eventually
    Ol' Fumble Fingers did come up with one good (even if
    hopelessly unoriginal) suggestion:

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe we [TROLLS] could get our own newsgroup where all
    we would ever do is slam one another.

    Could, should and please! And hey, why not call it Monkey
    Island? I hope the fools have fun. As always, I'm ready
    to get back to recumbents here.

    I believe Wayne Leggett has a bike shop (selling recumbent trikes named
    LoGo) somewhere in these United States. Would you want to buy a bike from
    him or, God forbid, go for a bike ride with him? He used to post his website
    address as part of his signature, but he has stopped doing that. He is no
    doubt ashamed of himself the way he has been carrying on.

    The problem as I see it is that he is jealous of me. Well, I don't blame
    him. There is a lot to be jealous of. Hells Bells, if I were him I would be
    jealous of me too.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  13. Ed said (I'm not stepping on Wayne's toes here am I)

    Quoted message said:

    I am already wealthy in leisure, the only kind of wealth that matters to
    me. With my leisure I pursue culture (science, literature and the arts))
    What else is there that is more worthwhile than that?

    I couldn't agree more Ed but you said that you gave up reading. From where
    are you getting your science, literature, and arts?

  14. "Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Ed said (I'm not stepping on Wayne's toes here am I)

    Not at all. This thread is as dead as a door nail. Why Wayne keeps it going
    is a mystery to me.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am already wealthy in leisure, the only kind of wealth that matters to
    me. With my leisure I pursue culture (science, literature and the arts))
    What else is there that is more worthwhile than that?

    I couldn't agree more Ed but you said that you gave up reading. From where
    are you getting your science, literature, and arts?

    I got all of that years ago in my youth. While you and the other denizens of
    ARBR were out pursuing women, jobs and getting drunk, I was pursuing
    knowledge. I probably stayed in college longer than I should have, but it
    was the cheapest place for me back then. I had quite a reputation of being a
    bookworm. In fact, for about 20 years I had no life at all other than what
    I could get out of a book. That is all I ever did night and day. It is
    wonder I did not lose my sight altogether.

    These days I am mostly pursuing health as I am at risk of dying any year now
    (aren't we all). I do not read much at all I must admit. I like to watch TV
    (I recently got digital cable TV), listen to music and I surf the world wide
    web on my computer and find all kinds of crazy things there to amuse me
    (including this newsgroup). Of course I still bicycle, but not in the winter
    anymore. I prefer to go for 2 hours walks instead. But when the weather
    turns humane again I will bike for a couple of hours every day, mainly just
    around town. I do not like to go out of town because the damn wind is always
    blowing up a storm (even though there is no storm).

    I believe if I had some money I would get the hell out of Minnesota as I am
    miserable here in the winter. I simply can't take cold and I am cold all the
    time lately. I think my cardiovascular system is getting ready to give up
    the ghost. I just turned 70 so I have now become ancient by all past
    historical standards.

    "I grow old … I grow old …
    I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled."

    T.S. Eliot - The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  15. Hey fellow ARBRists -

    Jeff asked:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not stepping on Wayne's toes here am I[?]

    NO, NO, NO - absolutely not! Anyone is welcome to vent
    a little pent-up frustration on this intentionally and
    properly labeled off-topic thread. The TROLL's fair game,
    and it's OPEN SEASON - no hunting license required.
    Sigh... now if only there was some way we could set up a
    bounty. Then maybe we could discourage him from posting
    [censored] like these timeless jewels:

    Quoted message said:

    This thread is as dead as a door nail [sic].

    BEEP-BEEP-BEEP! COMPOUND WORD ALERT!

    Quoted message said:

    All top posters are idiots! Anyone who does give any
    attributions is also an idiot!

    Oh... but what about a person who doesn't "give any
    attributions", whatever that might mean? Perhaps I'm,
    as the TROLL accuses:

    Quoted message said:

    ... dummy dumb. I mean dumber than dumb. Like dumb,
    dumb, dumb.

    I believe the point was made - probably not exactly the
    one he intended, but I think most readers will get it.

    Quoted message said:

    Others on the group can make up their own mind about
    me [the TROLL]...

    I'm fairly certain almost all the regular readers here
    at ARBR have been there, done that.

    Quoted message said:

    But is Wayne... telling us that this is as goods [sic]
    he gets. [sic - ?]

    No, I would have said whatever it was the TROLL intended
    to say without screwing it up so badly that most readers
    are left wondering what the BLEEP he meant.

    Quoted message said:

    Hells Bells [sic]...

    Good grief! How can even a TROLL continue to miss that
    it's: Hell's Bells - with an apostrophe; Heavens to
    Betsy - without an apostrophe. How can he repeatedly get
    it just exactly ass backwards? At the very least he could
    quit overusing expressions he can't even spell. To borrow
    a phrase: dumb, dumb, dumb!

    Quoted message said:

    The [TROLL] himself does not always know when he is
    joking and when he is being serious .

    That's what happens when the real writer of this kind of
    blather not only refers to himself in the third person
    but also continually confuses his 'person' with his
    'persona'. BTW, "joking" is TROLL-speak for 'trying to be
    inane' and "being serious" translates as 'being blatantly
    rude and offensive'

    Quoted message said:

    However, there is always a profound component to
    everything he says...

    Shouldn't that read "profane comment in"?

    Quoted message said:

    Give me Wal-Mart... Hell, if I were a kid I would get my
    bike at Wal-Mart and I would be perfectly happy with it.

    Well of course - I think their bicycle department is set
    up to precisely match the nondiscriminating palate of a
    bargain basement shopper like the TROLL. Who needs
    durable components, recumbents, decent tires and stuff
    like that? Their adult trikes in particular should appeal
    to the TROLL; hey, who wants to ride faster than 8 MPH
    anyway?

    Quoted message said:

    I believe Wayne... has a bike shop (selling recumbent
    trikes named LoGo) somewhere in these United States.

    I have a purposefully small, low-volume TRIKE shop which
    sells other brands of high-end sports touring adult
    recumbent trikes in addition to being the US importer
    for the Australian-built LoGos. As I write this, we're
    moving into a new shop in Ventura (California). I'll post
    a link as soon as we're settled in and I've updated the
    website(s).

    Quoted message said:

    Would you want to buy a bike from [Wayne] or, God
    forbid, go for a bike ride with him?

    My goodness! Is that a sleazy stab at intimidating me
    through my business? Actually I was thinking about maybe
    putting a note on a testimonials page about the fact
    that this TROLL doesn't like me. I certainly don't think
    we would lose any sales, and hey, it might even tempt a
    customer or two to buy from us...

    FWIW, especially for SoCal readers, we sell very few
    recumbent bikes, usually only when there's a special
    reason or customer request. I recommend Bent Up Cycles
    in the San Fernando Valley to most folks looking for a
    two-wheeler. Last year more than 100 recumbent riders
    rode with our local group; my wife and I didn't miss many
    of those rides, and we'll be there twice a month this
    year as well. If anyone wants more info about this very
    informal (but very fun) bunch, a good place to start is:

    http://www.logo-us.com/vcrr/vcride.htm

    Quoted message said:

    [Wayne] used to post his website address as part of his
    signature, but he has stopped doing that. He is no doubt
    ashamed of himself the way he has been carrying on.

    I rarely include my website with off-topic posts, since
    there's no real reason to do so. Am I ashamed of the way
    I've been carrying on? No. I like BROL's recumbent forum,
    but when it was down earlier this year, I think it should
    have been fairly obvious to most folks why it's important
    that we try to maintain a useful alternative, especially
    with an open format, like this newsgroup. Ed Dolan, or
    whoever writes the [censored] that's posted here in his name
    and as 'nget' (a very mixed-up 'gent'?), is an unpleasant
    and oppressive obstacle to the general acceptance and
    usefulness of this group.

    My first postings directed to this TROLL were a playfully
    poetic but sincere attempt to persuade him to tone it
    down a bit so that he would stop alienating potential
    ARBR participants. I learned very quickly, as have many
    others before me, that 'Ed' is either psychotic, or maybe
    just too stupid or selfish to care about anything except
    the perverse indulgence of his foul temper and (justly)
    starved ego to make any compromise for the good of the
    group. Oh, he'll BS and lie about it, of course, but two
    posts later he'll be right back telling us that we're all
    a bunch of idiots, morons, imbeciles, cowards and worse.

    So why have I been wasting my time these last two weeks
    plonking [US meaning, not UK] the numb skull of this
    contrary old reprobate? Well... honestly, mostly because
    after tolerating so many months of his bad behavior, it
    just felt really, really good to smack him back a little,
    you know?

    Anyway, was that Ed's reply to my open question:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    During his many 'final farewells' (another bit of
    private TROLL humor?), has any real human poster at
    ARBR ever asked the TROLL to stay or welcomed his
    return? Nope...

    Or this? - the pity ploy:

    Quoted message said:

    I just turned 70... I am miserable here [in Minnesota]
    in the winter. I simply can't take cold...

    Deja vu - one moment the TROLL is a sneering egomaniac
    demeaning everyone he encounters, or posting a sleazy
    half-threat to my business; the next he's a pitiful old
    soul all alone in the cold, pleading for comfort and
    love. I'd suggest that if the TROLL could truly "be nice"
    as opposed to (rarely) 'acting nice', he'd get a lot more
    sympathy from ARBR readers. As it is, I suspect that he'd
    still be a largely miserable cretin, even here in coastal
    Southern California. Warm winter weather's a good thing,
    but it ain't everything.

    In closing, I must admit that the TROLL made one true
    statement today:

    Quoted message said:

    I hate to learn anything new.

    Roger, over and out.

    Regards.
    Wayne Leggett
    3-2-GO, The Trike Store
    US Importers of LoGo Trikes
    Phone: 805-302-2379

  16. [quote="LoGo USA"]Hey fellow ARBRists -


    I like BROL's recumbent forum,
    but when it was down earlier this year, I think it should
    have been fairly obvious to most folks why it's important
    that we try to maintain a useful alternative, especially
    with an open format, like this newsgroup. Ed Dolan, or
    whoever writes the [censored] that's posted here in his name
    and as 'nget' (a very mixed-up 'gent'?), is an unpleasant
    and oppressive obstacle to the general acceptance and
    usefulness of this group.

    Brol remains Brol, a moderated board, and it is for some people the best place on the internet to talk recumbents. At times I think that a moderated board can inspire many people who would otherwise remain silent in a dog eat dog world, not unlike ARBR, to express their opinions more freely. Should we put our opinions on hold just in case BROL has a malfunction?
    If what appears on this group is unpleasant to you and you feel oppressed and in general don't like what you read then you should take a hike.

    A fellow triker,
    Mark Steinbock



    Regards.
    Wayne" almost a monkey" Leggett

  17. "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I got all of that years ago in my youth. While you and the other denizens
    of ARBR were out pursuing women, jobs and getting drunk, I was pursuing
    knowledge. I probably stayed in college longer than I should have, but it
    was the cheapest place for me back then. I had quite a reputation of being
    a bookworm. In fact, for about 20 years I had no life at all other than
    what I could get out of a book. That is all I ever did night and day. It
    is wonder I did not lose my sight altogether.

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
    Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read
    ---Groucho Marx

    Given the over 20 years difference in our age, when you were in your youth,
    half of me was persuing women while the other half of me was in a woman
    being persued.

    Quoted message said:

    These days I am mostly pursuing health as I am at risk of dying any year
    now (aren't we all). I do not read much at all I must admit. I like to
    watch TV (I recently got digital cable TV), listen to music and I surf the
    world wide web on my computer and find all kinds of crazy things there to
    amuse me (including this newsgroup). Of course I still bicycle, but not in
    the winter anymore. I prefer to go for 2 hours walks instead. But when the
    weather turns humane again I will bike for a couple of hours every day,
    mainly just around town. I do not like to go out of town because the damn
    wind is always blowing up a storm (even though there is no storm).

    I believe if I had some money I would get the hell out of Minnesota as I
    am miserable here in the winter. I simply can't take cold and I am cold
    all the time lately. I think my cardiovascular system is getting ready to
    give up the ghost. I just turned 70 so I have now become ancient by all
    past historical standards.

    Ancient? Hardly. My Father in law who died last year was 89. My Mothe in law
    who also died last year was 95. Although some of my family is short-lived,
    others are quite long lived. I think there is hope for me if I lose a few
    pounds and stop playing in traffic. I wish you many more year Ed (assuming
    that you are basically happy and enjoying being alive).

    Jeff

    Quoted message said:

    "I grow old . I grow old .
    I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled."

    T.S. Eliot - The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  18. Hey -

    My TROLL Detector's flashing red;
    Another posting's come from Ed,
    Which I may read, but won't reply.
    It's time to bid this thread goodbye.

    I've poked the TROLL - sharp pointed jabs,
    That made him squirm - but all those stabs
    Are, in the end, a waste of time,
    Like poking some old glob of slime.
    The stick pulls out, some gas escapes
    That smells a lot like sour grapes,
    But then it oozes back... the same,
    The way it was before you came.

    But still, when all is said and done,
    I will admit that it's been fun.
    One-liners really aren't my thing;
    To Tom, the once and future king
    Of quintessential quarrelsome quips
    That flag the TROLL's quite frequent slips,
    As I conclude my turn at bat,
    I'll just say, "Thanks. I needed that."

    To those who think that I've been rude
    'Engaging' Edgy in a feud,
    What can I say? I hope it's helped.
    To those who grinned when Edgy yelped
    (I'm betting most enjoyed the show),
    I grant you absolution; go
    In peace, and post without regard
    Or thought for TROLLS, although it's hard.

    We come from Earth; the TROLL's from Mars.
    He dwells on conflict, weapons, wars.
    But in this recent war of wits,
    The old TROLL took a lot of hits.
    Ed's gun was jammed; his only shells
    Were duds - like this one: "Hells [sic] Bells".
    Did I attack an unarmed man?
    If so, forgive me if you can.

    For me this was a one-time prank,
    But there's a gun on Sherman's tank
    That fires one-liners left and right.
    Whenever Ed gets in his sight,
    Then Tom will shoot and likely nail
    The slimy TROLL - to no avail...
    One-liners in the long run may
    Not cut it... still, it's FUN to play.

    Though ARBR's TROLL won't change, CAN'T learn,
    If you feel tempted, take a turn.
    But sport or spite should be your goal;
    I fear this TROLL will stay a TROLL.

    Regards,
    Wayne

  19. "LoGo USA" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hey -

    My TROLL Detector's flashing red;
    Another posting's come from Ed,
    Which I may read, but won't reply.
    It's time to bid this thread goodbye.

    This thread died and went to hell ages ago.

    Quoted message said:

    I've poked the TROLL - sharp pointed jabs,
    That made him squirm - but all those stabs
    Are, in the end, a waste of time,
    Like poking some old glob of slime.

    You have never made me squirm. Far from it. I knew your type in the Navy and
    have never let trash like that bother me in the slightest. Like them, you
    are just into ass and sex. Once I know that about someone, I know all I will
    ever have to know about that person.

    Quoted message said:

    The stick pulls out, some gas escapes
    That smells a lot like sour grapes,
    But then it oozes back... the same,
    The way it was before you came.

    But still, when all is said and done,
    I will admit that it's been fun.
    One-liners really aren't my thing;
    To Tom, the once and future king
    Of quintessential quarrelsome quips
    That flag the TROLL's quite frequent slips,
    As I conclude my turn at bat,
    I'll just say, "Thanks. I needed that."

    Tom Sherman is the king of the one-liners. Oddly enough, most newsgroups are
    just chock full of one-liners also. I attribute this to the high school
    education that most have acquired, never having known the blessings of
    higher education.

    All newsgroups are basically for idiots. All I am doing here is slumming.
    Ignorant slobs are fairly amusing to me provided they keep their distance. I
    normally only consort with my equals in the real world whereas all I ever
    find on newsgroups are my inferiors.

    Quoted message said:

    To those who think that I've been rude
    'Engaging' Edgy in a feud,
    What can I say? I hope it's helped.

    You should have stayed off ass and sex. That was your fatal mistake. I was
    perhaps the one person on this group who could have appreciated you, but you
    blew it big time when you wallowed in the gutter.

    Quoted message said:

    To those who grinned when Edgy yelped
    (I'm betting most enjoyed the show),
    I grant you absolution; go
    In peace, and post without regard
    Or thought for TROLLS, although it's hard.

    There has been only one troll on this group since I have been here and that
    was Ed Gin. Being off-topic and being contentious does not make one a troll.
    It merely makes one an Ed Dolan the Great.

    Quoted message said:

    We come from Earth; the TROLL's from Mars.
    He dwells on conflict, weapons, wars.
    But in this recent war of wits,
    The old TROLL took a lot of hits.
    Ed's gun was jammed; his only shells
    Were duds - like this one: "Hells [sic] Bells".
    Did I attack an unarmed man?
    If so, forgive me if you can.

    You were the one who came unarmed from the moment you resorted to ass and
    sex. You created an insurmountable stumbling block for the both of us once
    you did that.

    Quoted message said:

    For me this was a one-time prank,
    But there's a gun on Sherman's tank
    That fires one-liners left and right.
    Whenever Ed gets in his sight,
    Then Tom will shoot and likely nail
    The slimy TROLL - to no avail...
    One-liners in the long run may
    Not cut it... still, it's FUN to play.

    Mr. Sherman will not tangle with me anymore on anything substantial. Most of
    his old liberal buddies are now gone from the group so he doesn't have them
    for back up like he used to. He has become strictly a one-liner where I am
    concerned. I have written him out of the group except on narrow cycling
    subjects.

    Quoted message said:

    Though ARBR's TROLL won't change, CAN'T learn,
    If you feel tempted, take a turn.
    But sport or spite should be your goal;
    I fear this TROLL will stay a TROLL.

    I will stay who I am and I am NOT a troll for the umpteenth time! I am
    contentious and I am frequently off-topic. That is all I have ever been and
    all I will ever be.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

    PS. Very nice piece of verse, Wayne. There is not one person in ten thousand
    who can do what you do. Do not ever waste your talent by writing about ass
    and sex. It is too easy to do that and you can do harder things, like
    writing verse for others who would enjoy reading it. It is what being a
    writer is all about.

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