Anyone want a Trig Point?

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Anyone fancy owning their own Trig Point?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ORDNANCE-SURVEY-TRIANGULATION-STATION_W0QQitemZ7384553432QQcategoryZ4708QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

James
http://www.wheresthepath.com

I don't see that fitting in my car boot, but it would look great in the
garden. I wonder how much that will cost to ship and lift into position
Steve

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Anyone fancy owning their own Trig Point?

eBay item number 7384553432

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I don't see that fitting in my car boot, but it would look great in the
garden. I wonder how much that will cost to ship and lift into position
Steve

I could get it in the car, but I'd have to strap the children on the
roof or tow them on rollerskates behind me on the way back. I wonder
how much it actually weighs? Pity it's not a particular trig that means
something special to me, or I'd probably go for it - mad impetuous fool
that I am :-)

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Anyone fancy owning their own Trig Point?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ORDNANCE-SURVEY-TRIANGULATION-STATION_W0QQitemZ7384553432QQcategoryZ4708QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

James
http://www.wheresthepath.com

I don't see that fitting in my car boot, but it would look great in the
garden. I wonder how much that will cost to ship and lift into position
Steve

Same here - awesome.

I'm thinking of making one in my front garden.

The website says 24"x24" base and 48" above ground, what are the dimensions
at the top i.e by how much does it taper ?

Or does anyone have the specific dimensions ?

Thanks

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I could get it in the car, but I'd have to strap the children on the
roof or tow them on rollerskates behind me on the way back. I wonder
how much it actually weighs? Pity it's not a particular trig that means
something special to me, or I'd probably go for it - mad impetuous fool
that I am :-)

At 1.5m high (including a bit extra at the bottom) x 0.6 x 0.6 =0.54m3
volume of stone

I'd say the best part of a tonne, possibly a shade more.

Regards.
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Neil Pugh

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At 1.5m high (including a bit extra at the bottom) x 0.6 x 0.6 =0.54m3
volume of stone

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I'd say the best part of a tonne, possibly a shade more.

I don't have a trig point to hand to measure but I reckon the dimensions
are overall and generous with it so your estimate of volume may be out
by a factor of two or more. And average density is an issue too. Trig
pillars are hollow although I don't know exactly how big the interior
void is. Perhaps Graham will be along in a bit to direct us to the
dimensions for the British Standard trig point.

--
Roger Chapman so far this year nothing

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From the remains of one - see pic below - it appears that the void is a

approx 3" iron tube through the centre of the trig, don't know if
there's a larger chamber lower down.

http://www.wheresthepath.com/county_tops/ct_bridgend.htm

James

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<[email hidden]> writes

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I don't have a trig point to hand to measure but I reckon the dimensions
are overall and generous with it so your estimate of volume may be out
by a factor of two or more. And average density is an issue too. Trig
pillars are hollow although I don't know exactly how big the interior
void is. Perhaps Graham will be along in a bit to direct us to the
dimensions for the British Standard trig point.

I realise that this does not give the weight of the actual pillar, but
the following url makes interesting reading.

<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/main.jhtml?xml=/travel/2004/10/30/ettr
igpillars.xml&sSheet=/travel/2004/10/30/ixtrvhome.html>

"The pillar on top of Cadair Idris in Wales took 12 days to construct,
and required a team of packhorses rented from a Dolgelly coal merchant
to carry the 42 cwt of chippings, sand and cement to the 3,000ft summit
of the mountain. In his report, the builder complained of "terrible"
mists and heavy rain."

I can't find the actual dimensions of the pillar anywhere. The approx
dims though are 2 feet square at base and 4 feet high above ground.
There is also some underground of course. At (say) an average size of
450mm square x 1500mm high that's about 0.3m3 concrete, about 0.66
tonnes. (If it isn't hollow of course).

I've seen some broken pillars in the past and I don't recall them being
hollow. There is a small recess at the base for the plate though.

Regards
--
Neil Pugh

In message <[email hidden]>, Roger
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

I don't have a trig point to hand to measure but I reckon the dimensions
are overall and generous with it so your estimate of volume may be out
by a factor of two or more. And average density is an issue too. Trig
pillars are hollow although I don't know exactly how big the interior
void is. Perhaps Graham will be along in a bit to direct us to the
dimensions for the British Standard trig point.

I realise that this does not give the weight of the actual pillar, but
the following url makes interesting reading.

<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/main.jhtml?xml=/travel/2004/10/30/ettr
igpillars.xml&sSheet=/travel/2004/10/30/ixtrvhome.html>

"The pillar on top of Cadair Idris in Wales took 12 days to construct,
and required a team of packhorses rented from a Dolgelly coal merchant
to carry the 42 cwt of chippings, sand and cement to the 3,000ft summit
of the mountain. In his report, the builder complained of "terrible"
mists and heavy rain."

I can't find the actual dimensions of the pillar anywhere. The approx
dims though are 2 feet square at base and 4 feet high above ground.
There is also some underground of course. At (say) an average size of
450mm square x 1500mm high that's about 0.3m3 concrete, about 0.66
tonnes. (If it isn't hollow of course).

I've seen some broken pillars in the past and I don't recall them being
hollow. There is a small recess at the base for the plate though.

Regards
--
Neil Pugh

Neil Pugh said:

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I realise that this does not give the weight of the actual pillar, but
the following url makes interesting reading.

<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/main.jhtml?xml=/travel/2004/10/30/ettr
igpillars.xml&sSheet=/travel/2004/10/30/ixtrvhome.html>

"The pillar on top of Cadair Idris in Wales took 12 days to construct,
and required a team of packhorses rented from a Dolgelly coal merchant
to carry the 42 cwt of chippings, sand and cement to the 3,000ft summit
of the mountain. In his report, the builder complained of "terrible"
mists and heavy rain."

I can't find the actual dimensions of the pillar anywhere. The approx
dims though are 2 feet square at base and 4 feet high above ground.
There is also some underground of course. At (say) an average size of
450mm square x 1500mm high that's about 0.3m3 concrete, about 0.66
tonnes. (If it isn't hollow of course).

I've seen some broken pillars in the past and I don't recall them being
hollow. There is a small recess at the base for the plate though.

Regards

Well from that your best estimate of the whole construction is 42cwt -
the stuff used to make it. Thats a bit over 2 tonnes for the metric
kiddies.

Andy

Neil Pugh said:

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I realise that this does not give the weight of the actual pillar, but
the following url makes interesting reading.

<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/main.jhtml?xml=/travel/2004/10/30/ettr
igpillars.xml&sSheet=/travel/2004/10/30/ixtrvhome.html>

"The pillar on top of Cadair Idris in Wales took 12 days to construct,
and required a team of packhorses rented from a Dolgelly coal merchant
to carry the 42 cwt of chippings, sand and cement to the 3,000ft summit
of the mountain. In his report, the builder complained of "terrible"
mists and heavy rain."

I can't find the actual dimensions of the pillar anywhere. The approx
dims though are 2 feet square at base and 4 feet high above ground.
There is also some underground of course. At (say) an average size of
450mm square x 1500mm high that's about 0.3m3 concrete, about 0.66
tonnes. (If it isn't hollow of course).

I've seen some broken pillars in the past and I don't recall them being
hollow. There is a small recess at the base for the plate though.

Regards

Well from that your best estimate of the whole construction is 42cwt -
the stuff used to make it. Thats a bit over 2 tonnes for the metric
kiddies.

Andy

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from Neil Pugh <[email hidden]> contains these words:

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I don't have a trig point to hand to measure but I reckon the dimensions
are overall and generous with it so your estimate of volume may be out
by a factor of two or more. And average density is an issue too. Trig
pillars are hollow although I don't know exactly how big the interior
void is. Perhaps Graham will be along in a bit to direct us to the
dimensions for the British Standard trig point.

Quoted message said:

I realise that this does not give the weight of the actual pillar, but
the following url makes interesting reading.

Quoted message said:

<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/main.jhtml?xml=/travel/2004/10/30/ettr
igpillars.xml&sSheet=/travel/2004/10/30/ixtrvhome.html>

I couldn't get that link to work but did eventually get to Nick Cranes
article. I also saw that particular mapman program although I can't
recall very much about it.

Quoted message said:

"The pillar on top of Cadair Idris in Wales took 12 days to construct,
and required a team of packhorses rented from a Dolgelly coal merchant
to carry the 42 cwt of chippings, sand and cement to the 3,000ft summit
of the mountain. In his report, the builder complained of "terrible"
mists and heavy rain."

I have a photo somewhere of that trig point (adorned by an attractive
young lady) and I am sure it is a standard trig point. Why they should
have required enough materials to make one and a half cubic yards of
concrete beats me.

On another visit to that summit I found it occupied by two young men
working their way through a 7 pint can of beer resting on said trig
point.

Quoted message said:

I can't find the actual dimensions of the pillar anywhere. The approx
dims though are 2 feet square at base and 4 feet high above ground.
There is also some underground of course. At (say) an average size of
450mm square x 1500mm high that's about 0.3m3 concrete, about 0.66
tonnes. (If it isn't hollow of course).

Quoted message said:

I've seen some broken pillars in the past and I don't recall them being
hollow. There is a small recess at the base for the plate though.

I think you will find that there is a direct connection from the brass
plug in the top to the ground below where there might be the brass
button that was the earlier trig point.

--
Roger Chapman so far this year nothing

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from Neil Pugh <[email hidden]> contains these words:

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I don't have a trig point to hand to measure but I reckon the dimensions
are overall and generous with it so your estimate of volume may be out
by a factor of two or more. And average density is an issue too. Trig
pillars are hollow although I don't know exactly how big the interior
void is. Perhaps Graham will be along in a bit to direct us to the
dimensions for the British Standard trig point.

Quoted message said:

I realise that this does not give the weight of the actual pillar, but
the following url makes interesting reading.

Quoted message said:

<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/main.jhtml?xml=/travel/2004/10/30/ettr
igpillars.xml&sSheet=/travel/2004/10/30/ixtrvhome.html>

I couldn't get that link to work but did eventually get to Nick Cranes
article. I also saw that particular mapman program although I can't
recall very much about it.

Quoted message said:

"The pillar on top of Cadair Idris in Wales took 12 days to construct,
and required a team of packhorses rented from a Dolgelly coal merchant
to carry the 42 cwt of chippings, sand and cement to the 3,000ft summit
of the mountain. In his report, the builder complained of "terrible"
mists and heavy rain."

I have a photo somewhere of that trig point (adorned by an attractive
young lady) and I am sure it is a standard trig point. Why they should
have required enough materials to make one and a half cubic yards of
concrete beats me.

On another visit to that summit I found it occupied by two young men
working their way through a 7 pint can of beer resting on said trig
point.

Quoted message said:

I can't find the actual dimensions of the pillar anywhere. The approx
dims though are 2 feet square at base and 4 feet high above ground.
There is also some underground of course. At (say) an average size of
450mm square x 1500mm high that's about 0.3m3 concrete, about 0.66
tonnes. (If it isn't hollow of course).

Quoted message said:

I've seen some broken pillars in the past and I don't recall them being
hollow. There is a small recess at the base for the plate though.

I think you will find that there is a direct connection from the brass
plug in the top to the ground below where there might be the brass
button that was the earlier trig point.

--
Roger Chapman so far this year nothing

"Roger" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I don't have a trig point to hand to measure but I reckon the dimensions
are overall and generous with it so your estimate of volume may be out
by a factor of two or more. And average density is an issue too. Trig
pillars are hollow although I don't know exactly how big the interior
void is. Perhaps Graham will be along in a bit to direct us to the
dimensions for the British Standard trig point.

I've been looking but can't find anything yet, although I know I've got a
diagram somewhere which I'll put a link to when i find it. The pillars were
built over the actual point, which was a bolt in the rock, so there could be
quite a bit structure *underground* if there was a lot of soil/peat between
the surface and the rock.

Graham

"Roger" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I don't have a trig point to hand to measure but I reckon the dimensions
are overall and generous with it so your estimate of volume may be out
by a factor of two or more. And average density is an issue too. Trig
pillars are hollow although I don't know exactly how big the interior
void is. Perhaps Graham will be along in a bit to direct us to the
dimensions for the British Standard trig point.

I've been looking but can't find anything yet, although I know I've got a
diagram somewhere which I'll put a link to when i find it. The pillars were
built over the actual point, which was a bolt in the rock, so there could be
quite a bit structure *underground* if there was a lot of soil/peat between
the surface and the rock.

Graham

In message <[email hidden]>, Roger
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

I have a photo somewhere of that trig point (adorned by an attractive
young lady) and I am sure it is a standard trig point. Why they should
have required enough materials to make one and a half cubic yards of
concrete beats me.

There's probably a large block of concrete supporting it, assuming it
hasn't been built on bedrock!

Regards
--
Neil Pugh

In message <[email hidden]>, Roger
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

I have a photo somewhere of that trig point (adorned by an attractive
young lady) and I am sure it is a standard trig point. Why they should
have required enough materials to make one and a half cubic yards of
concrete beats me.

There's probably a large block of concrete supporting it, assuming it
hasn't been built on bedrock!

Regards
--
Neil Pugh

The OS have blocked the sale.

Richard Webb

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The OS have blocked the sale.

What? Why? The spoilsports!

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Fran said:

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The OS have blocked the sale.

What? Why? The spoilsports!

They will be claiming copyright on the pillar :-)

Well, at least that they own the pillar. The fact is that that they
have no use for it anymore, so why not let the farmer sell it to get
rid of it?
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"