Okay...So What's A Good Tail Light?

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down. But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

And what do y'all think of this: www.fossilfool.com?

NYC XYZ said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down. But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

Cheap blinkie.

Bill "same to you, buddy!" S.

NYC XYZ said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down. But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

Cheap blinkie.

Bill "same to you, buddy!" S.

"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down. But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

And what do y'all think of this: www.fossilfool.com?

Blinkie and an LED reflective vest.

"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down. But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

And what do y'all think of this: www.fossilfool.com?

Blinkie and an LED reflective vest.

"Sorni" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:9kACf.2238$Jg.1167
@tornado.socal.rr.com:

Quoted message said:

NYC XYZ said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down. But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

Cheap blinkie.

Bill "same to you, buddy!" S.

I like the Cateye LD500-RC.

It has two modes; blinking and solid.
in the blinking mode it blinks in triple bink sets (like the morse code
"S" over and over) and runs just about forever (100 hours) on two AAA
batteries.

It comes with a quick release seat post mount and a belt clip.

It also meets the C.P.S.C. (Consumer Product Safety Commission) regulations
as a reflector.

See:

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=1511

Rich

"Sorni" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:9kACf.2238$Jg.1167
@tornado.socal.rr.com:

Quoted message said:

NYC XYZ said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down. But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

Cheap blinkie.

Bill "same to you, buddy!" S.

I like the Cateye LD500-RC.

It has two modes; blinking and solid.
in the blinking mode it blinks in triple bink sets (like the morse code
"S" over and over) and runs just about forever (100 hours) on two AAA
batteries.

It comes with a quick release seat post mount and a belt clip.

It also meets the C.P.S.C. (Consumer Product Safety Commission) regulations
as a reflector.

See:

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=1511

Rich

NYC XYZ said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down.

Gotta link as to where these are available?

Quoted message said:

But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

A regular cheap tail light, best is actually 2 lights, one blinking and
one steady.

Quoted message said:

And what do y'all think of this: www.fossilfool.com?

I thought such tube lights were stupid on cars.. I guess they would be
popular to the same kinda guys though, but ones that haven't got the
cash for a car.....

W

NYC XYZ said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down.

Gotta link as to where these are available?

Quoted message said:

But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

A regular cheap tail light, best is actually 2 lights, one blinking and
one steady.

Quoted message said:

And what do y'all think of this: www.fossilfool.com?

I thought such tube lights were stupid on cars.. I guess they would be
popular to the same kinda guys though, but ones that haven't got the
cash for a car.....

W

[rec.bicycles.tech/marketplace in the x-post list is unnecessary]

In article <[email hidden]>,

NYC XYZ said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down. But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

My bottle generator tail light has gradually earned my appreciation.
I like the way it makes a big, red halo. It won't dazzle ya, but
the photons it pumps out have oomph.

The better blinkies have metallic reflectors inside, behind the LEDs.

I once saw a big ol', steady-on unit with a b-i-g lens[*] (almost as big
as those yellow flashers on road construction site sawhorses) for sale
for a couple o' bux in a used parts bin. Took a 9V transistor cell.
I wish I bought it just to see what it sez.

Quoted message said:

And what do y'all think of this: www.fossilfool.com?

1) wrong colour(s)
2) doesn't face rearward enough
3) looks breakable and exposed to the elements; I don't
wanna keel-haul my own lighting
4) too LowRider (for my tastes)
5) a lot of stuff with which to complicate a nice, simple bicycle

cheers,
Tom

[*] I'm a believer in /size/ of illumination, like others believe
in brightness. I think light sources bigger than point-sources
(however bright they may be) give viewers better clues as to
what they're looking at. I believe that can be accomplished
with a good combination of active and passive (reflective)
illumination.

--
-- Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

[rec.bicycles.tech/marketplace in the x-post list is unnecessary]

In article <[email hidden]>,

NYC XYZ said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down. But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

My bottle generator tail light has gradually earned my appreciation.
I like the way it makes a big, red halo. It won't dazzle ya, but
the photons it pumps out have oomph.

The better blinkies have metallic reflectors inside, behind the LEDs.

I once saw a big ol', steady-on unit with a b-i-g lens[*] (almost as big
as those yellow flashers on road construction site sawhorses) for sale
for a couple o' bux in a used parts bin. Took a 9V transistor cell.
I wish I bought it just to see what it sez.

Quoted message said:

And what do y'all think of this: www.fossilfool.com?

1) wrong colour(s)
2) doesn't face rearward enough
3) looks breakable and exposed to the elements; I don't
wanna keel-haul my own lighting
4) too LowRider (for my tastes)
5) a lot of stuff with which to complicate a nice, simple bicycle

cheers,
Tom

[*] I'm a believer in /size/ of illumination, like others believe
in brightness. I think light sources bigger than point-sources
(however bright they may be) give viewers better clues as to
what they're looking at. I believe that can be accomplished
with a good combination of active and passive (reflective)
illumination.

--
-- Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

The Wogster said:

Gotta link as to where these are available?

The cheapest online seems to be for $529 at
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?sku=19467.

Quoted message said:

A regular cheap tail light, best is actually 2 lights, one blinking and
one steady.

Now there's an idea! Hmm....

Quoted message said:

I thought such tube lights were stupid on cars.. I guess they would be
popular to the same kinda guys though, but ones that haven't got the
cash for a car.....

The car lights are pure vanity. On bikes, they actually have an excuse
-- to be seen.

I so believe that the "halo effect" on the ground helps convey,
psychologically, a sense of "space" to the driver.

Quoted message said:

W

And these?

www.hokeyspokes.com

The Wogster said:

Gotta link as to where these are available?

The cheapest online seems to be for $529 at
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?sku=19467.

Quoted message said:

A regular cheap tail light, best is actually 2 lights, one blinking and
one steady.

Now there's an idea! Hmm....

Quoted message said:

I thought such tube lights were stupid on cars.. I guess they would be
popular to the same kinda guys though, but ones that haven't got the
cash for a car.....

The car lights are pure vanity. On bikes, they actually have an excuse
-- to be seen.

I so believe that the "halo effect" on the ground helps convey,
psychologically, a sense of "space" to the driver.

Quoted message said:

W

And these?

www.hokeyspokes.com

Tom Keats said:

<SNIP>

1) wrong colour(s)

???

How about these colors: www.hokeyspokes.com.

Quoted message said:

2) doesn't face rearward enough

But they're meant as side lights -- though conceivably one could be
attached to the stem to face back....

Quoted message said:

3) looks breakable and exposed to the elements; I don't

It's thermoplastic, the same stuff as bullet-proof glass. There's a
nice video on the site showing them dropping a brick on it!

Quoted message said:

<SNIP>

Tom Keats said:

<SNIP>

1) wrong colour(s)

???

How about these colors: www.hokeyspokes.com.

Quoted message said:

2) doesn't face rearward enough

But they're meant as side lights -- though conceivably one could be
attached to the stem to face back....

Quoted message said:

3) looks breakable and exposed to the elements; I don't

It's thermoplastic, the same stuff as bullet-proof glass. There's a
nice video on the site showing them dropping a brick on it!

Quoted message said:

<SNIP>

NYC XYZ said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down. But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

And what do y'all think of this: www.fossilfool.com?

Don't get the el-cheapo blinkies. Three reasons. They are not
well-constructed, not bright, and don't have a good angle of view.

"http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=101&subcategory=1068&brand=&sku=12860&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename="

Yes, that's a great headlight, but ouch, $500?!

NYC XYZ said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down. But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

And what do y'all think of this: www.fossilfool.com?

Don't get the el-cheapo blinkies. Three reasons. They are not
well-constructed, not bright, and don't have a good angle of view.

"http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=101&subcategory=1068&brand=&sku=12860&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename="

Yes, that's a great headlight, but ouch, $500?!

Richard B said:

"Sorni" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:9kACf.2238$Jg.1167
@tornado.socal.rr.com:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

NYC XYZ said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down. But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

Cheap blinkie.

Bill "same to you, buddy!" S.

Quoted message said:

I like the Cateye LD500-RC.

I had the Cataeye LD500-RC. And let me tell you, it sucks beanie
babies left and right, up and down. When I got out of the hospital
after being rear ended one evening, i started using a different light:

http://www.nashbar.com/nashbar_photos/medium/VO-604.gif

The vista 5-LED "Nebula" is my favorite. You can get red or white.
After getting rear-ended by a colorblind driver (who had a hard time
seeing a green flashing light at night), i switched to white.

These are the recommendations for portable, on-body lights. If you
want an on-bicycle light, then something like NiteRider is probably
the best.

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

Richard B said:

"Sorni" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:9kACf.2238$Jg.1167
@tornado.socal.rr.com:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

NYC XYZ said:

That L&M Arc Li-Ion Ultra is the best head light, hands down. But how
about tail lights? Or are they just the same?

Cheap blinkie.

Bill "same to you, buddy!" S.

Quoted message said:

I like the Cateye LD500-RC.

I had the Cataeye LD500-RC. And let me tell you, it sucks beanie
babies left and right, up and down. When I got out of the hospital
after being rear ended one evening, i started using a different light:

http://www.nashbar.com/nashbar_photos/medium/VO-604.gif

The vista 5-LED "Nebula" is my favorite. You can get red or white.
After getting rear-ended by a colorblind driver (who had a hard time
seeing a green flashing light at night), i switched to white.

These are the recommendations for portable, on-body lights. If you
want an on-bicycle light, then something like NiteRider is probably
the best.

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA