Nailed boots

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Paul Gretton said:

Errrr..........my question was about nailed boots.

Not boots (sorry...) but my orienteering shoes have nails in some of the
studs. A bit noisy when you run on tarmac 🙂

Hmm interesting. I haven't seen those before. How do they compare with fell
shoes like PBs?

Roy.

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Paul Gretton said:

Errrr..........my question was about nailed boots.

Not boots (sorry...) but my orienteering shoes have nails in some of the
studs. A bit noisy when you run on tarmac 🙂

Hmm interesting. I haven't seen those before. How do they compare with fell
shoes like PBs?

Roy.

Roy said:

Hmm interesting. I haven't seen those before. How do they compare with fell
shoes like PBs?

Depends on the terrain. Over mossy logs etc. as typically found through
forests on orienteering runs they seem a lot better, but if you're
spending most of a session on hard(ish) paths they're not so great, and
there's nothing quite like a PB for grip in Serious Mud (I've replaced
my PBs with Innov8 Mudclaws, because I just over-pronate Walshes into
submission in fairly short order and so they soon become uncomfy for me,
hopefully the Mudclaws will be in a similar ballpark for mud and bog).

When we were doing the LAMM last year Roos was suffering a bit on some
sections with hard paths/roads and has since bought another pair of
orienteering shoes without the steel studs for runs that are looking
more like that.

So it's the usual story: nothing's perfect...

Pete.
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Roy said:

Hmm interesting. I haven't seen those before. How do they compare with fell
shoes like PBs?

Depends on the terrain. Over mossy logs etc. as typically found through
forests on orienteering runs they seem a lot better, but if you're
spending most of a session on hard(ish) paths they're not so great, and
there's nothing quite like a PB for grip in Serious Mud (I've replaced
my PBs with Innov8 Mudclaws, because I just over-pronate Walshes into
submission in fairly short order and so they soon become uncomfy for me,
hopefully the Mudclaws will be in a similar ballpark for mud and bog).

When we were doing the LAMM last year Roos was suffering a bit on some
sections with hard paths/roads and has since bought another pair of
orienteering shoes without the steel studs for runs that are looking
more like that.

So it's the usual story: nothing's perfect...

Pete.
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Wow! Real beauties.

Wow! Real beauties.

"AJH" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I don't but always think there are far too many scratch marks on
rocky
paths for walking poles to have made, I suppose the thing about nail
marks is they would be in series patterns.

Crampons?
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"AJH" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I don't but always think there are far too many scratch marks on
rocky
paths for walking poles to have made, I suppose the thing about nail
marks is they would be in series patterns.

Crampons?
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Rod Craddock said:

"AJH" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I don't but always think there are far too many scratch marks on
rocky
paths for walking poles to have made, I suppose the thing about nail
marks is they would be in series patterns.

Crampons?

Crampons and fell running shoes (see Roos and Peter's posts).

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Simon Caldwell said:

Crampons and fell running shoes (see Roos and Peter's posts).

Almost all crampons, but a few walking pole tips too in places.

Fell running shoes have rubber studs, only a subset of orienteering
shoes have metal studs, and it's considerably rarer to see them in
the hills than fell shoes (which aren't /that/ common).

Pete.
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I don't but always think there are far too many scratch marks on rocky
paths for walking poles to have made,

Stiletto heels.

Peter Clinch said:

Fell running shoes have rubber studs, only a subset of orienteering
shoes have metal studs, and it's considerably rarer to see them in
the hills than fell shoes (which aren't /that/ common).

Normally I'd agree, but at last weekend's Warrior O event in the fells
above Thirlmere (open moorland mostly, and the courses were long - up
to 15k), there were a *lot* of people using metal spikes. It took me
a while, wondering why so many people had been up there wearing
crampons in a snow-free winter at modest height and with no winter
climbing for miles, before I worked out what was going on!

S.

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Do any of you still wear nailed boots? The pair I had in the late 60s
were great on verglas or where a stream had flooded a path and then
frozen -- that sort of thing. I could have really used a pair this
afternoon on some icy country lanes here in the far south of the
Netherlands (the only -- sort of -- hilly bit). My vibrams had me
slithering. Can one still get nailed boots? The last time I saw a pair
was on a farmer in Snowdonia in about 1990. (I suppose the army still
wear them for ceremonial stuff, so there must be a manufacturer
somewhere.)

My Fishing waders have studs specifically required for wet rocks. They
are very small tungsten studs - much smaller than the old hob nails.

I don't know if these can be inserted into soles of boots or indeed
boots with them already installed. They certainly bite into stone and
grip well.
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"Paul Gretton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Do any of you still wear nailed boots? The pair I had in the late

I don't know if these can be inserted into soles of boots or indeed
boots with them already installed. They certainly bite into stone
and grip well.

These are what you are talking about Bill.

http://www.cliff-harvey-angling.co.uk/prod_show.asp?id=177

http://www.waderson.com/ProductInclude.php?product=1692

http://www.tacklebargains.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000006.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2etacklebargains%2eco%2euk%2facatalog%2fFootwear%2ehtml&WD=studs%20wader&PN=Online_Catalogue_Fly_Fishing_Accessories_84%2ehtml%23a106#a106

HTH.

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Birrell <[email hidden]> writes

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W. D. Grey said:

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"Paul Gretton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Do any of you still wear nailed boots? The pair I had in the late

I don't know if these can be inserted into soles of boots or indeed
boots with them already installed. They certainly bite into stone
and grip well.

These are what you are talking about Bill.

http://www.cliff-harvey-angling.co.uk/prod_show.asp?id=177

http://www.waderson.com/ProductInclude.php?product=1692

Hi Sandy, these are not quite what I have in my boot/waders but I'm
sure they would be good.

I'm not sure if they screw into Vibram soles or leather.

Perhaps OP will know exactly what he wants.
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W. D. Grey said:

Hi Sandy, these are not quite what I have in my boot/waders but I'm
sure they would be good.

I'm not sure if they screw into Vibram soles or leather.

Perhaps OP will know exactly what he wants.

As long as the sole was thick enough there shouldn't be a problem.

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Birrell <[email hidden]> writes

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W. D. Grey said:

Hi Sandy, these are not quite what I have in my boot/waders but I'm
sure they would be good.

I'm not sure if they screw into Vibram soles or leather.

Perhaps OP will know exactly what he wants.

As long as the sole was thick enough there shouldn't be a problem.

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Sandy

Might be very handy in that case.

I know Hawkshead sold "Lomer" shoes with tungsten grips which could be
deployed as and when required by means of a flip over device on the
soles. perhaps boot with the same device are available
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Paul Gretton said:

I seem to remember some Scandinavian "walking wellies" also have nails
in the studs but I haven't seen those in the shops for years (either in
NL of the UK).

Used to be made by a Finnish company called Nokia, what ever became
of them?

Yes, O shoes on the roads are a pain, planners take note.

Richard Webb

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I remember "Segs" from the '60's as metal SEGments applied to the heel
or toe of a shoe to help them last longer. You could slide a lot
further along the school corridor if you had them on your shoes, too.
Don't think they'd be very effective for grip, though. Segs or Blakeys
were always wedge or kidney-shaped - I don't remember any studs or
anything remotely resembling any of the tricouni nails that Poucher
talked about . . .

A winter sport, sparking your blakeys.....

Richard Webb

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:05:17 +0000, Boo

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This page shows a selection of makes and models:

http://www.compasspoint-online.co.uk/acatalog/Metal_Studded_Orienteering_Shoes.html

Thanks, a most interesting shop. It's unfortunate they don't have an
outlet in Brighton. I will have to look around for some of those models
nearer to home 'cos I really don't like buying footwear without trying
it on first.

Visit an orienteering event, In England there is usually a shop
there.

Fixture list here:
http://freespace.virgin.net/pat.martin/fixtures.htm

Good idea to try them, O shoes can be a bit funny size wise.

Richard Webb