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  1. Original post
    Paul Cummings
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    I had thought on Pen-Y-Fan from Neuadd reservoir (mainly because I know
    that route and it only has a few really steep bits), what about from
    the Storey Arms?

    Easy route, but somewhat boring I find. My boys would have done it easily
    when aged five, so I doubt it is a problem with distance (although the
    boredom might be!). Neuadd would be a better, but longer, route.

    How about a loop around the Craig Cerig-gleisiad / Fan Frynych ridge. It
    gives two hills on a nice ridge. Something like 7km all in. My sons first
    did it age about 7 & 4. You start from just north of the Story Arms in lay
    by.

    Fan Fawr from the Storey Arms. This has the advantage of having a fraction
    of the trippers going up the Pen. It is also off path (mostly), so feels
    more of a real adventure.

    Quoted message said:

    If this might be a bit much for a 1st outing , what about around
    Abergavenny (I can get there by train which will add some excitement
    to the day)?

    Sugar Loaf? Some may not classify it as a mountain (being only 596m high),
    but it is stand alone and near Abergavenny, so could be worth it. It is a
    Marilyn (150m of ascent all around), so appears on some tick lists. There
    are actually something like six Marilyns around Abergavenny, so you could
    have a go at knocking them all off in time (too far from the train station
    for a direct walk though).

    Table mountain, as others mention, is a good option from Crickhowell. Not
    really a mountain though.

    How about something from Llanthony Priory to get a feel for the ruins too?
    I can't think of anything specific at the moment, but something should be
    reasonable.

    For a real summit type mountain, I would go for Pen y Fan from the Neuadd
    (assuming it is not too far). You can then explain you are on the highest
    point in Southern Britain (south of Snowdonia). For a more ridge walk type
    of thing then Fan Frynych is the best option for small ones.

    Have fun,
    Paul

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  2. Email address hidden
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    As mentioned in my previous post, my 5 yr old daughter Emilie wants to
    climb a mountain. My nearest mountains are the Brecon Beacons (I live
    near Bath), and I've only ever been there once (I usually head for
    Snowdonia or the Lakes).

    Can people recommend any good walks in the Beacons which should be
    within the capabilities of a reasonably fit 5 to 6 year old and would
    fit the 'mountain' category? ( I will be taking for practice walks
    locally before I head for the hills).

    I had thought on Pen-Y-Fan from Neuadd reservoir (mainly because I know
    that route and it only has a few really steep bits), what about from
    the Storey Arms?

    If this might be a bit much for a 1st outing , what about around
    Abergavenny (I can get there by train which will add some excitement
    to the day)?

    Many Thanks

    John

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  3. Paul Saunders
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    Quoted message said:

    Can people recommend any good walks in the Beacons which should be
    within the capabilities of a reasonably fit 5 to 6 year old and would
    fit the 'mountain' category? ( I will be taking for practice walks
    locally before I head for the hills).

    The walk up to Llyn y Fan Fawr from the east is easy enough, Fan Brycheiniog
    optional.

    Quoted message said:

    I had thought on Pen-Y-Fan from Neuadd reservoir (mainly because I
    know that route and it only has a few really steep bits), what about
    from the Storey Arms?

    Good path all the way, easier than from Neuadd.

    Quoted message said:

    If this might be a bit much for a 1st outing , what about around
    Abergavenny (I can get there by train which will add some excitement
    to the day)?

    Sugar Loaf is the obvious one, may be your best bet.

    Paul

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  4. Rudi Winter
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    Paul Saunders said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can people recommend any good walks in the Beacons which should be
    within the capabilities of a reasonably fit 5 to 6 year old and would


    The walk up to Llyn y Fan Fawr from the east is easy enough, Fan Brycheiniog
    optional.

    You beat me to it - that was my first thought, too!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If this might be a bit much for a 1st outing , what about around
    Abergavenny (I can get there by train which will add some excitement
    to the day)?

    Table Mountain (rocky hill fort) and Pen Cerrig Calch (steep but plenty
    of grassy spots to rest, watch, play and cosume treats on the way up)
    just north of Crickhowell. Twenty minutes by bus from Abergavenny, bus
    runs every other hour - might work if it matches your train times.
    --
    Rudi Winter, Aberystwyth, Wales

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  5. MatSav
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    Quoted message said:

    As mentioned in my previous post, my 5 yr old daughter Emilie wants to
    climb a mountain. My nearest mountains are the Brecon Beacons (I live
    near Bath), and I've only ever been there once (I usually head for
    Snowdonia or the Lakes).

    Can people recommend any good walks in the Beacons which should be
    within the capabilities of a reasonably fit 5 to 6 year old and would
    fit the 'mountain' category?

    Table Mountain, 451m spot height, OSGB Ref. SO 225 226, NNE of Crickhowell
    should be within her capabilities. Approximately 5km circular walk from the
    car park in the town centre. Take either of the "long routes" to the West
    and East of the summit, rather than trying to scramble up from the Southwest
    side - the slope to the top is far gentler on the North side.

    I really like Crickhowell - gear shop, chip shop, pubs - it's got the lot!

    --
    MatSav

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  6. W. D. Grey
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    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] writes

    Quoted message said:

    I had thought on Pen-Y-Fan from Neuadd reservoir (mainly because I know
    that route and it only has a few really steep bits), what about from
    the Storey Arms?

    Storey Arms is a better starting point as far as access is concerned.

    Pont-ar Daf a few hundred metres down the road is another favourite with
    the added "fun" of a stepping stone crossing of the River Taf thrown
    in.

    Good parking just off the A470 in both places.
    --
    Bill Grey
    http://www.billboy.co.uk

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  7. Rudi Winter
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    MatSav said:

    I really like Crickhowell - gear shop, chip shop, pubs - it's got the lot!

    Maybe not quite what the OP is after but the beer garden of the Bridge
    Inn by the river is fabulous, and I found their restaurant excellent,
    too. Don't miss out on the cauliflower cheese side order!
    (No connection, just etc.)
    --
    Rudi Winter, Aberystwyth, Wales

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  8. Fran
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    [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:

    As mentioned in my previous post, my 5 yr old daughter Emilie wants to
    climb a mountain. My nearest mountains are the Brecon Beacons (I live
    near Bath), and I've only ever been there once (I usually head for
    Snowdonia or the Lakes).

    Can people recommend any good walks in the Beacons which should be
    within the capabilities of a reasonably fit 5 to 6 year old and would
    fit the 'mountain' category? ( I will be taking for practice walks
    locally before I head for the hills).

    I had thought on Pen-Y-Fan from Neuadd reservoir (mainly because I know
    that route and it only has a few really steep bits), what about from
    the Storey Arms?

    Pen y Fan can be seriously cold and windy on the top. Trust me on this,
    I know. That said, going from Storey Arms (which isn't a pub or an inn
    or anything like it but then you probably already know that) isn't a bad
    idea. Walk up until Emilie starts to have had enough, and then turn
    round and head back down. One thing Storey Arms does have is a snack
    van in the layby opposite it :-)

    To be honest though, I think it might be a bit much for her at first.
    You could have a bash at Cribyn first; if she's got energy to spare Pen
    y Fan's in sight from there. I don't think I'd do Corn Du with her
    necessarily since it has a few bits where falling off is a possibility
    and not such a good thing to do. Thing is, you're experienced, and you
    know your daughter. Also, if you think she'd do better in company I'd
    be more than happy to meet you somewhere in south Wales with my own
    Emily (6 in April) and 8 yr old Nicholas.

    There's also the Brecon Mountain Railway (brilliant fun for children;
    runs from nearish Merthyr and goes neither to Brecon nor to mountains,
    but apart from that...) which fetches up by Pontiscill reservoir (may go
    a bit further by now, not sure) and from which walks are available along
    things and up things. Can we assume that Emilie is a seasoned walker in
    the countryside even if she hasn't assailed pointy bits yet?
    --
    To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
    where common sense dictates.

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  9. W. D. Grey
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    In article <[email hidden]>, Fran
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    One thing Storey Arms does have is a snack
    van in the layby opposite it :-)

    Much better one about 1 mile towards Brecon on the big RH bend in the
    A470.

    There used to be an RAC Box here and the corner is known locally as RAC
    Corner (for obvious reasons). BTW A lay-by about 800yards further on
    towards Brecon is the starting point for a stroll around Craig Cerrig
    Gleisiaid.
    --
    Bill Grey
    http://www.billboy.co.uk

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  10. Rudy Lacchin
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    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    As mentioned in my previous post, my 5 yr old daughter Emilie wants to
    climb a mountain... I had thought on Pen-Y-Fan from Neuadd reservoir
    (mainly because I know that route and it only has a few really steep
    bits),
    what about from the Storey Arms?

    I quite like Pen-y-Fan from the Storey Arms side. The more southerly car
    park has toilets and the more northerly one has a burger van (last I knew).
    You can stroll up until her little legs start to fade, then rest a while and
    wander back down. It's likely to be fairly chilly at this tome of the year
    though.

    My six-year-old surprised us by making it to the plateau at the top of
    Helvellyn (from the Thirlemere side) and only gave up the trudge to the
    summit when the mist descended and frightened her.

    I guess in hindsight we should have gone up with her... <g>

    R.

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  11. Fran
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    [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:

    My six-year-old surprised us by making it to the plateau at the top of
    Helvellyn (from the Thirlemere side) and only gave up the trudge to the
    summit when the mist descended and frightened her.

    I guess in hindsight we should have gone up with her... <g>


    What, and spoil her adventure? How many times did Mrs Blyton's
    'children' take their parents along with them to keep an eye on them,
    eh, eh? Exactly. Never. Never, never, never, never, never. Honestly,
    some people.
    --
    To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
    where common sense dictates.

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  12. Paul Saunders
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    Paul Cummings said:

    Sugar Loaf? Some may not classify it as a mountain (being only 596m
    high),

    Course it is! The clue is in the name - Mynydd Pen-y-Fal.

    What you really mean is that it doesn't reach 610m, which is a really stupid
    number now that the maps are in metric. 500m is a far more sensible
    arbitrary number.

    Quoted message said:

    Table mountain, as others mention, is a good option from Crickhowell.
    Not really a mountain though.

    No, I'll agree with that. It's a large block of geology that's slid down
    the mountain side. Cool for kids though.

    Paul

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  13. Email address hidden
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    Fran said:

    [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:

    As mentioned in my previous post, my 5 yr old daughter Emilie wants to
    climb a mountain. My nearest mountains are the Brecon Beacons (I live
    near Bath), and I've only ever been there once (I usually head for
    Snowdonia or the Lakes).

    Can people recommend any good walks in the Beacons which should be
    within the capabilities of a reasonably fit 5 to 6 year old and would
    fit the 'mountain' category? ( I will be taking for practice walks
    locally before I head for the hills).

    I had thought on Pen-Y-Fan from Neuadd reservoir (mainly because I know
    that route and it only has a few really steep bits), what about from
    the Storey Arms?

    Pen y Fan can be seriously cold and windy on the top. Trust me on this,
    I know. That said, going from Storey Arms (which isn't a pub or an inn
    or anything like it but then you probably already know that) isn't a bad
    idea. Walk up until Emilie starts to have had enough, and then turn
    round and head back down. One thing Storey Arms does have is a snack
    van in the layby opposite it :-)

    To be honest though, I think it might be a bit much for her at first.
    You could have a bash at Cribyn first; if she's got energy to spare Pen
    y Fan's in sight from there. I don't think I'd do Corn Du with her
    necessarily since it has a few bits where falling off is a possibility
    and not such a good thing to do. Thing is, you're experienced, and you
    know your daughter. Also, if you think she'd do better in company I'd
    be more than happy to meet you somewhere in south Wales with my own
    Emily (6 in April) and 8 yr old Nicholas.

    There's also the Brecon Mountain Railway (brilliant fun for children;
    runs from nearish Merthyr and goes neither to Brecon nor to mountains,
    but apart from that...) which fetches up by Pontiscill reservoir (may go
    a bit further by now, not sure) and from which walks are available along
    things and up things. Can we assume that Emilie is a seasoned walker in
    the countryside even if she hasn't assailed pointy bits yet?

    Thanks for the offer, I may take you up on it! She isn't that seasoned
    yet, although she regularly does the circuit of the field behind where
    we live (approx 1m round) without complaint and frequently at a run!
    One of the pre-requisites of any 'mountain' attempt will be a few
    longer walks with me, probably involving some climbing up the edge of
    the Salisbury plain. I may also try her on the Sugarloaf first, it
    looks like a mountain even if it technically isn't.

    John

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  14. Fran
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    [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:

    if you think she'd do better in company I'd

    Quoted message said:

    be more than happy to meet you somewhere in south Wales with my own
    Emily (6 in April) and 8 yr old Nicholas.

    There's also the Brecon Mountain Railway (brilliant fun for children;
    runs from nearish Merthyr and goes neither to Brecon nor to mountains,
    but apart from that...) which fetches up by Pontiscill reservoir (may go
    a bit further by now, not sure) and from which walks are available along
    things and up things. Can we assume that Emilie is a seasoned walker in
    the countryside even if she hasn't assailed pointy bits yet?

    Thanks for the offer, I may take you up on it! She isn't that seasoned
    yet, although she regularly does the circuit of the field behind where
    we live (approx 1m round) without complaint and frequently at a run!
    One of the pre-requisites of any 'mountain' attempt will be a few
    longer walks with me, probably involving some climbing up the edge of
    the Salisbury plain. I may also try her on the Sugarloaf first, it
    looks like a mountain even if it technically isn't.


    If it looks like a mountain to a 5 year old then it's a mountain :-)
    --
    To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
    where common sense dictates.

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