Re: "Fast food and sedentary lifestyle: a combination that leads to obesity"

Enrico C said:

On 27 Feb 2006 06:53:47 -0800, TC wrote in
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Well of course, it could not possibly be the grain based carbs.

David R. Jacobs, Jr., Ph.D., Division of Epidemiology, School of Public
Health, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis. Research on the effect
of whole grains on insulin sensitivity in overweight hyperinsulinemic
adults was partially supported by, Inc. (Am. J. Clin.
Nut. 2002;75(5):848-55) Study on Wheaties/whole grains received
funding from General Mills, which issued a press release on it
(3/1/99). (Am. J. Pub. Health. 1999;89:322-9)

General Mills

There was no need to look for that.
It's already acknowledged in Dr Jacobs's editorial.

"ACKNOWLEDGMENTS"

"DR Jacobs has received grants from General Mills Inc and is a member
of the Scientific Advisory Board of the California Walnut Commission."

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How would that look to the stockholders if obesity was linked to grain
based carbs?

Nice piece of non-science marketing. And it got thru the peer review
process.

The second study you referenced makes more sense:

"Conclusion: In a Mediterranean cohort, particularly in the
participants who had already gained weight, an increased consumption of
sugar-sweetened soft drinks and of hamburgers, pizza, and sausages was
associated with a higher risk of additional subsequent weight gain."

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High frutose corn syrup and starchy grains are a major part of obesity.

Sugar-sweetened soft drinks seem to be the real culprit, according to
that study on fast-food goers in Spain.

Most non-diet sodas are sweetened with high fructose corn syrup.

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The link between an increased consumption of soda pops and weight gain
was 1.6, while it was 1.2 for other fast-food items (hamburgers,
pizza, and sausages).

"In the participants who had gained =3 kg in the 5 y before
baseline, the adjusted odds ratio of subsequent weight gain for the
fifth quintile compared with the first quintile of sugar-sweetened
soft drink consumption was 1.6 (95% CI: 1.2, 2.1; P for trend =
0.02)."
[...]
"The consumption of hamburgers, pizza, and sausages (as a proxy for
fast-food consumption) was also independently associated with weight
gain (adjusted odds ratio for the fifth compared with the first
quintile = 1.2; 95% CI: 1.0, 1.4; P for trend = 0.05)."

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:32:59 +0100, Enrico C wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Sugar-sweetened soft drinks seem to be the real culprit, according to
that study on fast-food goers in Spain.
The link between an increased consumption of soda pops and weight gain
was 1.6, while it was 1.2 for other fast-food items (hamburgers,
pizza, and sausages).

I daresay the main reason for that is rather obvious: soda pops add
calories but leave you hungry.

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On 27 Feb 2006 07:39:16 -0800, TC wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Sugar-sweetened soft drinks seem to be the real culprit, according to
that study on fast-food goers in Spain.

Most non-diet sodas are sweetened with high fructose corn syrup.

Ok, but would sucrose instead of HFCS make a difference?

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Possibly. But that is theoretical. Most sodas are hfcs and hfcs has
found its way into many, if not most, manufactured foods.

TC

Enrico C said:

On 27 Feb 2006 07:39:16 -0800, TC wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Sugar-sweetened soft drinks seem to be the real culprit, according to
that study on fast-food goers in Spain.

Most non-diet sodas are sweetened with high fructose corn syrup.

Ok, but would sucrose instead of HFCS make a difference?

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Enrico C said:

Quoted message said:

Most non-diet sodas are sweetened with high fructose corn syrup.

Ok, but would sucrose instead of HFCS make a difference?

Sucrose is 50% fructose, so there is very little differences.

But over here, most are sweetened by sucrose anyway.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Enrico C said:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:32:59 +0100, Enrico C wrote in
<news:[email hidden]> on
sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.fast-food :

Quoted message said:

Sugar-sweetened soft drinks seem to be the real culprit, according to
that study on fast-food goers in Spain.
The link between an increased consumption of soda pops and weight gain
was 1.6, while it was 1.2 for other fast-food items (hamburgers,
pizza, and sausages).

I daresay the main reason for that is rather obvious: soda pops add
calories but leave you hungry.

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Not only leaves you hungry, but I think it gives you a craving for
more!!!!

Jim Purcell said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Enrico C said:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:32:59 +0100, Enrico C wrote in
<news:[email hidden]> on
sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.fast-food :

Quoted message said:

Sugar-sweetened soft drinks seem to be the real culprit, according to
that study on fast-food goers in Spain.
The link between an increased consumption of soda pops and weight gain
was 1.6, while it was 1.2 for other fast-food items (hamburgers,
pizza, and sausages).

I daresay the main reason for that is rather obvious: soda pops add
calories but leave you hungry.

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Not only leaves you hungry, but I think it gives you a craving for
more!!!!

All high glycemic carbs do that. It took me a while to get used to
diet soda, but I hardly remember what the sugared variety tastes like
anymore, as the only time I've had it was as a mixer for booze, and
that only a few times in the last 10 years or so.
Did you know that calorie for calorie, plain, dry baked potatro will
raise your blood sugar higher and faster that sugar straight out of a
sugar bowl?

--Bryan

On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:27:46 -0700, Jim Purcell wrote in
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Enrico C said:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:32:59 +0100, Enrico C wrote in
<news:[email hidden]> on
sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.fast-food :

Quoted message said:

Sugar-sweetened soft drinks seem to be the real culprit, according to
that study on fast-food goers in Spain.
The link between an increased consumption of soda pops and weight gain
was 1.6, while it was 1.2 for other fast-food items (hamburgers,
pizza, and sausages).

I daresay the main reason for that is rather obvious: soda pops add
calories but leave you hungry.

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Not only leaves you hungry, but I think it gives you a craving for
more!!!!

I guess that depends on the individual.

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Enrico C

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