cyclist down Mornington this morning

AndrewJ said:

As I came north of Mornington this morning along Nepean Highway there
were ambulances and police everywhere. The lack of crumpled cars
immediately indicated the worst.

Apparently a cyclist had been hit by a car. Just flown off in
helicopter, conscious. Looked like the car had gone straight through a
stop sign when turning left into Nepean Highway, then straight through
the cyclist.

Just because there is a stop sign, and even if they look like they
might stop, this doesn't mean they will stop. Just because you are
paranoid does not mean that they are not out to get you.

Let's hope that the end result is not as bad as I fear.

'Conscious' is always a good sign. Hope for the best.

SteveA

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AndrewJ said:

As I came north of Mornington this morning along Nepean Highway there
were ambulances and police everywhere. The lack of crumpled cars
immediately indicated the worst.

Apparently a cyclist had been hit by a car. Just flown off in
helicopter, conscious. Looked like the car had gone straight through a
stop sign when turning left into Nepean Highway, then straight through
the cyclist.

Just because there is a stop sign, and even if they look like they
might stop, this doesn't mean they will stop. Just because you are
paranoid does not mean that they are not out to get you.

Let's hope that the end result is not as bad as I fear.

'Conscious' is always a good sign. Hope for the best.

SteveA

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SteveA

Sad. I got hit just before Xmas in a very similar way. North Road going to
Beach Road, first street after Hawthorn Road (Elizabeth), ~7:15am, Saturday,
sunny, calm and clear. A woman in late model Subaru Liberty wagon stopped at
a Stop sign, wanting to turn left into North Road and she looked in my
direction, but as I went past her she suddenly took off and hit me in the
back wheel. Buckled it too. She pushed me into the right lane, I was lucky
no other cars. Somehow I managed to unclip and not fall down. She said she
did not see me. SHE DID NOT LOOK PROPERLY is the correct answer. There is a
big difference. I was wearing all yellow gear top to bottom and was a mere
10-15 metres away going ~20km/h when she looked into my direction. She was
looking for CARS. That is the typical problem.

So I now raise my hand in similar situations and wave to them. Hopefully it
attracts more of their (limited) attention and makes me appear polite and
friendly.

BTW the police were not interested (I had a cyclist witness, behind me,
thanks dude!). They said if there is no damage to my body then they are not
wanting to get involved. A bit like two cars involved in a crash. They are
only interested if ambulance is involved or a hit and run.

A cyclist said:

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Quoted message said:

AndrewJ said:

As I came north of Mornington this morning along Nepean Highway there
were ambulances and police everywhere. The lack of crumpled cars
immediately indicated the worst.

Apparently a cyclist had been hit by a car. Just flown off in
helicopter, conscious. Looked like the car had gone straight through a
stop sign when turning left into Nepean Highway, then straight through
the cyclist.

Just because there is a stop sign, and even if they look like they
might stop, this doesn't mean they will stop. Just because you are
paranoid does not mean that they are not out to get you.

Let's hope that the end result is not as bad as I fear.

'Conscious' is always a good sign. Hope for the best.

SteveA

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SteveA

Sad. I got hit just before Xmas in a very similar way. North Road going to
Beach Road, first street after Hawthorn Road (Elizabeth), ~7:15am, Saturday,
sunny, calm and clear. A woman in late model Subaru Liberty wagon stopped at
a Stop sign, wanting to turn left into North Road and she looked in my
direction, but as I went past her she suddenly took off and hit me in the
back wheel. Buckled it too. She pushed me into the right lane, I was lucky
no other cars. Somehow I managed to unclip and not fall down. She said she
did not see me. SHE DID NOT LOOK PROPERLY is the correct answer. There is a
big difference. I was wearing all yellow gear top to bottom and was a mere
10-15 metres away going ~20km/h when she looked into my direction. She was
looking for CARS. That is the typical problem.

So I now raise my hand in similar situations and wave to them. Hopefully it
attracts more of their (limited) attention and makes me appear polite and
friendly.

BTW the police were not interested (I had a cyclist witness, behind me,
thanks dude!). They said if there is no damage to my body then they are not
wanting to get involved. A bit like two cars involved in a crash. They are
only interested if ambulance is involved or a hit and run.

At which point you reply "My neck hurts" "Could turn out to be
serious" "Might I now have a word with your boss to ascertain if it is
really the policy of Vic Pol to not charge people who quite clearly are
guilty of carelesss driving and only by luck not guilty of culpable
driving" And he decides that charging her is less work than putting up
with you.

Lazy sod.

Dave

A cyclist said:

BTW the police were not interested (I had a cyclist witness, behind me,
thanks dude!). They said if there is no damage to my body then they are not
wanting to get involved. A bit like two cars involved in a crash. They are
only interested if ambulance is involved or a hit and run.

that's not a choice they have!
You ca still go back, demand to see the officer in charge and get the driver charged and your wheel repairs covered!

are you a member of BV?
if so gimme a hoy on fdutch at gmail.com and i'll shake some trees and tell you how to about it

Whilst I'm sure you may be keen to put this experience behind you,
the law and society needs to wrap their head around it not being OK.
Letting it 'thru to the keeper' only exacerbates it and leaves you with a [censored] experience and something to complain about. What happens to the next rider in the same scenario?

On 2006-03-12, A cyclist (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

BTW the police were not interested (I had a cyclist witness, behind me,
thanks dude!). They said if there is no damage to my body then they are not
wanting to get involved. A bit like two cars involved in a crash. They are
only interested if ambulance is involved or a hit and run.

That's [censored] -- they lied to you. If they don't cooperate, there's
always the ombudsman. You want police cooperation, because that makes
extracting repair money very simple -- a conviction will result in the
insurance company having a very hard time arguing against you. In the
meantime, write (and get the witness to write) a signed and dated
statement (very much as soon as practicle after the collision, and
store it in a safe place. Get BV to help you if you are a member, or
else go to the Law Institute of Victoria.

I dunno yet how you go about getting a lawyer to work for you without
paying them in advance, but I think we have those
dont-pay-if-you-don't-win sharks. If the driver cooperated (hah!),
you could possibly just get their insurance details straight off them.

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TimC
HANDLE WITH EXTREME CARE: This Product Contains Minute Electrically
Charged Particles Moving at Velocities in Excess of Five Hundred
Million Miles Per Hour. --unknown

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Quoted message said:

On 2006-03-12, A cyclist (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

BTW the police were not interested (I had a cyclist witness, behind me,
thanks dude!). They said if there is no damage to my body then they are
not
wanting to get involved. A bit like two cars involved in a crash. They
are
only interested if ambulance is involved or a hit and run.

That's [censored] -- they lied to you. If they don't cooperate, there's
always the ombudsman. You want police cooperation, because that makes
extracting repair money very simple -- a conviction will result in the
insurance company having a very hard time arguing against you. In the
meantime, write (and get the witness to write) a signed and dated
statement (very much as soon as practicle after the collision, and
store it in a safe place. Get BV to help you if you are a member, or
else go to the Law Institute of Victoria.

I dunno yet how you go about getting a lawyer to work for you without
paying them in advance, but I think we have those
dont-pay-if-you-don't-win sharks. If the driver cooperated (hah!),
you could possibly just get their insurance details straight off them.

--
TimC
HANDLE WITH EXTREME CARE: This Product Contains Minute Electrically
Charged Particles Moving at Velocities in Excess of Five Hundred
Million Miles Per Hour. --unknown

If the police really want to be slackers and ignore your incident I am sure
the tabloid journalism shows would love it!