International Flight with Bicycle

Are you using a CrateWorks bike box? Some airlines do not charge extra
for it solely because it is below thier maximum dims and it does not
look like a bike box. I HIGHLY reccomend one. I let the Military Cargo
Handlers (not know for ebing "gentle"😉 ship my SS from Memphis, TN to
Kuwait via M.A.C. in one and despite thier best efforts they could not
even damage the box, let alone the bike inside it.

Scott Gordo said:

I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in a
full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm not
sure if this is standard practice. I'm in the middle of choosing my
flights. Can anyone point out a listing of airlines that provide
this service for free?

I didn't check it out and got reamed by Continental last year 2 x $80.
When planning to book, ask the airline whether there is a charge. You
can do this by email or phone if you look up their web site. I was
never charges in the past. Times are getting tighter.

Jobst Brandt

Scott Gordo said:

I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in a
full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm not sure
if this is standard practice.
I'm in the middle of choosing my flights. Can anyone point out a
listing of airlines that provide this service for free?

I have been assured by the folks at Untied that it is still free (flying
to AMS) but there is no documentation on the UAL website. Note that they
have reduced the weight allowance from 70 to 50 lbs.

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I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in a
full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm not sure
if this is standard practice.
I'm in the middle of choosing my flights. Can anyone point out a
listing of airlines that provide this service for free?

Thanks,
Scott

I flew Virgin from Newark back to London last summer with a bike in a
standard "as shipped to bike shop" box with no charges or even raised
eyebrows.

Despite the fact they could see into the box through handholds, they still
wanted to x-ray it. Bet that showed them alot...

I enquired of American to fly EWR-Indiana last year, and they said that
would be OK in a box but not as a loose bike (they'd take it but charge).
Flew London to Zurich about 5 years ago with a loose bike on EasyJet
(usually one of the worst offenders at charging for anything non-standard)
with no charges or trouble.

IT3 said:

Are you using a CrateWorks bike box? Some airlines do not charge extra
for it solely because it is below thier maximum dims and it does not
look like a bike box. I HIGHLY reccomend one. I let the Military Cargo
Handlers (not know for ebing "gentle"😉 ship my SS from Memphis, TN to
Kuwait via M.A.C. in one and despite thier best efforts they could not
even damage the box, let alone the bike inside it.

I've used a regular, freebie bike box in the past without issue, though
I'm considering something a little more heavy duty.

I just flew British from SF to London and two mates were not charged
extra for full size bike boxes. However we then flew Thompson Air from
Palma Mallorca to London and they definitely have different rules.
With Thompson there is a 44 pound checked weigt limit per person. So
if your stuff and/or your bike take you over that limit there is an
absurd charge per kilo after that. One small saving grace is they
appear to have a special "low" price for sports equipment which I
believe came to around $50. The arrangement to get the "special" rate
must be made at the time you purchase your ticket. We tried to get a
Spanish taxi to take a full size bike travel case and they would not
consider it. Bottom line: get your connections straight before you
need to.

Quoted message said:

Scott Gordo said:

I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in a
full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm not
sure if this is standard practice. I'm in the middle of choosing my
flights. Can anyone point out a listing of airlines that provide
this service for free?

I didn't check it out and got reamed by Continental last year 2 x $80.
When planning to book, ask the airline whether there is a charge. You
can do this by email or phone if you look up their web site. I was
never charges in the past. Times are getting tighter.

Jobst Brandt

Will do. Continental is one of the front runners right now. Was the
cost based on it being a bicycle, box dimensions, or was it a weight
penalty?

Scott

Scott Gordo said:

Quoted message said:

Scott Gordo said:

I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in a
full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm not
sure if this is standard practice. I'm in the middle of choosing my
flights. Can anyone point out a listing of airlines that provide
this service for free?

I didn't check it out and got reamed by Continental last year 2 x $80.
When planning to book, ask the airline whether there is a charge. You
can do this by email or phone if you look up their web site. I was
never charges in the past. Times are getting tighter.

Jobst Brandt

Will do. Continental is one of the front runners right now. Was the
cost based on it being a bicycle, box dimensions, or was it a weight
penalty?

Scott

Just got off the phone. MF'ers. $80 each way for a 22lb road bike +
box.

/s

On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:19:09 -0500, "Simon Cooper" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I enquired of American to fly EWR-Indiana last year, and they said that
would be OK in a box but not as a loose bike (they'd take it but charge).
Flew London to Zurich about 5 years ago with a loose bike on EasyJet
(usually one of the worst offenders at charging for anything non-standard)
with no charges or trouble.

Easyjet charges for a bike or skis, but it's fairly reasonably priced at
25 eur per flight.

Jasper

Scott Gordo said:

I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in a
full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm not sure
if this is standard practice.
I'm in the middle of choosing my flights. Can anyone point out a
listing of airlines that provide this service for free?

LAW used to have an arrangement for free bicycle transport with several
airlines, but it appears as if only Frontier Airlines still
participates, which doesn't help you much.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in a
full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm not
sure if this is standard practice. I'm in the middle of choosing my
flights. Can anyone point out a listing of airlines that provide
this service for free?

I didn't check it out and got reamed by Continental last year 2 x $80.
When planning to book, ask the airline whether there is a charge. You
can do this by email or phone if you look up their web site. I was
never charges in the past. Times are getting tighter.

Jobst Brandt

Was there a domestic leg on your flight? Could be that it didn't matter, but
I've heard that some people have had issues when their flight started on a
US-US leg before heading overseas (for example, San
Francisco/Chicago/Paris). Every airline that I know of charges for domestic
flights, but some report that they have been mistakenly charged for the
domestic portion of an International flight because somebody didn't know
the rules.

Having said that, I think it's safe to assume that airlines will be charging
for bicycles on International flights as normal policy in the near future.
Revenue enhancement.

By the way, whatever you hear on the phone when you call doesn't hold much
weight when you're at the counter. If there's something on the website,
print it out. Even then someone might argue it with you, and like it or not,
the Gate Agent is King or Queen. Always best to be pleasant with them.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Quoted message said:

I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in a
full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm not sure
if this is standard practice.
I'm in the middle of choosing my flights. Can anyone point out a
listing of airlines that provide this service for free?

Thanks,
Scott

Scott: Whether they charge you or not, watch the new weight limits!!! It's
not like the old days, where you could pile all sorts of other stuff into
the box. Most airlines have already adopted a 50lb weight limit (unless you
have "status" with the airline, in which case some allow up to 70, which
used to be normal).

One other thing to consider- some airports do their security searches right
out on the floor, in front of everybody. CDG (Paris) is amazing this way.
You might want to make sure that whatever you pack won't be embarassing when
it's laid out on the floor in front of everybody. That might mean washing
underwear (something several of the passengers at CDG most certainly hadn't
considered).

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

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I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in a
full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm not sure
if this is standard practice.
I'm in the middle of choosing my flights. Can anyone point out a
listing of airlines that provide this service for free?

I brought a bike with Lufthansa last year from Germany w/o charge. Regular
bike store card board box.

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Thanks,
Scott

Scott Gordo said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in
a full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm
not sure if this is standard practice. I'm in the middle of
choosing my flights. Can anyone point out a listing of airlines
that provide this service for free?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I didn't check it out and got reamed by Continental last year 2 x
$80. When planning to book, ask the airline whether there is a
charge. You can do this by email or phone if you look up their web
site. I was never charges in the past. Times are getting tighter.

Quoted message said:

Will do. Continental is one of the front runners right now. Was the
cost based on it being a bicycle, box dimensions, or was it a weight
penalty?

Bicycles, skis, and other sporting equipment gets this charge at
Continental. They were just rude about it.

Jobst Brandt

If you join USA cycling .........

Bike Voucher Program (United Airlines)
Each current annual licensed USA Cycling member is eligible to receive
two (2) FREE one-way bike vouchers ($160 value) per calendar year as a
member benefit. VOUCHERS ARE AVAILABLE WHILE SUPPLIES LAST. These
vouchers cannot be duplicated.

Phil H

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I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in a
full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm not sure
if this is standard practice.
I'm in the middle of choosing my flights. Can anyone point out a
listing of airlines that provide this service for free?

Thanks,
Scott

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penalty?

Scott

Just got off the phone. MF'ers. $80 each way for a 22lb road bike +
box.

/s

Maybe UPS is less expensive? That's if you have somewhere to send it...
Drew

When using a cardboard bike shop box consider whether you can store it at
your destination for the return trip.

Once in France I had a hell of a time finding a box for my return leg. They
said "using a bike box was an American thing". Since I was bike touring I
did not have a place to store the box. Oh, yea the box packed with
everything was 70.5 lbs. Free shipping on a Wash DC to JFK to Paris flight.
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I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in a
full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm not sure
if this is standard practice.
I'm in the middle of choosing my flights. Can anyone point out a
listing of airlines that provide this service for free?

I brought a bike with Lufthansa last year from Germany w/o charge. Regular
bike store card board box.

Quoted message said:

Thanks,
Scott

Scott Gordo said:

I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in a
full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm not sure
if this is standard practice.
I'm in the middle of choosing my flights. Can anyone point out a
listing of airlines that provide this service for free?

Thanks,
Scott

Try this link:

http://www.gfarnsworth.com/BikeAccess/airlines.cfm

We travel with S&S coupled bikes and have no problems, but I try to keep
the cases under 50 pounds. You do have to check weight limits. Also,
remember that these "parcels" are handled by human beings who have
physical limitations. I am always amazed at people who want to stuff
their bike boxes with extraneous stuff, and then want the airlines to
handle 100 lb plus bike boxes gratis.

Oliver S

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"When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of
the human race." HG Wells

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I'm planning on taking an overseas trip in May with my bicycle in a
full-sized box. I've done it once before and it was free. I'm not sure
if this is standard practice.
I'm in the middle of choosing my flights. Can anyone point out a
listing of airlines that provide this service for free?

Thanks,
Scott

British Airways takes bikes as one of the two allowed pieces of checked
luggage between North America and Europe, but they charge to take bikes on
other routes where baggage allowances are calculated differently.

Lufthansa does the same, they ask you to call their toll free line to
reserve a spot for the bike. I was able to reserve a spot for my bike for a
round trip with one connection each way with no problem. Apparently the toll
free line goes to Germany, I was told "You must the drive stick sideways
fix". Between knowing some German and having travelled with bikes before I
was able to translate this as "turn the handlebars sideways".

Various American carriers used to carry bikes free on flights to Europe but
charge for domestic trips. They seem to have resolved that inconsistency by
charging a stiff fee to take bikes on all flights.

In 2000 I was able to buy a cardboard bike box in Gatwick airport for my
return flight to Denver. In 2004 I was not able to buy a bike box at
Heathrow, although the shop was operated by the same company. I'm guessing
that buying your bike box in the airport is a thing of the past.

Like everyone said, check the individual airline's websites and print out a
copy of the web page. If your flight involves multiple airlines, check all
the airline's websites, you will probably be bound by the stricter set of
regulations.
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