Another one for the scrap heap.

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Deore LX V-brakes.
After only 18 months of commuting, they have given up. Nice parallel
push design, but [censored] execution so the bushes corrode and seize..

Bah!

And I also need a new spoke or two for the rear wheel.

Lasted fine on my MTB. P'raps they've made a crapper more modern version.

Doki said:

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Deore LX V-brakes.
After only 18 months of commuting, they have given up. Nice parallel
push design, but [censored] execution so the bushes corrode and seize..

Bah!

And I also need a new spoke or two for the rear wheel.

Lasted fine on my MTB. P'raps they've made a crapper more modern version.

Possibly the salt. Possibly the minimal maintenance. They had been
doing fine but have seriously corroded now. And alloy/alloy doesn't
make for a good bearing surface once it starts to get a bit rough. I
might double the cost and look at the XT ones, or halve the cost and
head back to simple Deore ones.

...d

David Martin said:

Doki said:

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Deore LX V-brakes.
After only 18 months of commuting, they have given up. Nice parallel
push design, but [censored] execution so the bushes corrode and seize..

Bah!

And I also need a new spoke or two for the rear wheel.

Lasted fine on my MTB. P'raps they've made a crapper more modern version.

Possibly the salt. Possibly the minimal maintenance. They had been
doing fine but have seriously corroded now. And alloy/alloy doesn't
make for a good bearing surface once it starts to get a bit rough. I
might double the cost and look at the XT ones, or halve the cost and
head back to simple Deore ones.

If you're looking for a replacement parallel push type brake
I've Avid Arch-Rivals of various ages which are coping very well with
both off-road mud and commuting road yuck. They don't seem to be
directly linked to on the Sram/ Avid site any more though:/

At the cheaper end of the spectrum my Avid SD3s are
significantly nicer than the (newish) Deore Vs on my ancient commute
bike. All do get a fairly regular clean and service and seem to be
surviving well.
--
Tim.

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Tim said:

David Martin said:

Doki said:

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Deore LX V-brakes.
> After only 18 months of commuting, they have given up. Nice parallel
> push design, but [censored] execution so the bushes corrode and seize..
>
> Bah!
>
> And I also need a new spoke or two for the rear wheel.

Lasted fine on my MTB. P'raps they've made a crapper more modern version.

Possibly the salt. Possibly the minimal maintenance. They had been
doing fine but have seriously corroded now. And alloy/alloy doesn't
make for a good bearing surface once it starts to get a bit rough. I
might double the cost and look at the XT ones, or halve the cost and
head back to simple Deore ones.

If you're looking for a replacement parallel push type brake
I've Avid Arch-Rivals of various ages which are coping very well with
both off-road mud and commuting road yuck. They don't seem to be
directly linked to on the Sram/ Avid site any more though:/

At the cheaper end of the spectrum my Avid SD3s are
significantly nicer than the (newish) Deore Vs on my ancient commute
bike. All do get a fairly regular clean and service and seem to be
surviving well.

Mine get the occasional squirt of GT85, and the bosses regreased about
once a year. The bosses were fine, it was the parallel push bit which
wasn't. I've managed to get it moving now with a bit of brute force and
feeding GT85 and then motor oil in from the end.

Thanks for the recommendations. I'll look at them.

...d

Quoted message said:

--
Tim.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Tim (tim@spiny-

norman.net) said:

If you're looking for a replacement parallel push type brake
I've Avid Arch-Rivals of various ages which are coping very well with
both off-road mud and commuting road yuck. They don't seem to be
directly linked to on the Sram/ Avid site any more though:/

Wot Tim said. I've got these on the fixer, and they achieve with two
moving parts what takes Shimano about twenty. Forty quid from Wiggle:

<URL:http://tinyurl.com/nxrh9>

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
If you are choking on an ice cube, simply pour a jug of boiling water
down your throat and presto! The blockage is almost instantly removed.

In message <[email hidden]>, Dave
Larrington <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Wot Tim said. I've got these on the fixer, and they achieve with two
moving parts what takes Shimano about twenty. Forty quid from Wiggle:

<URL:http://tinyurl.com/nxrh9>

Please explain:

"Locking Overcoat A boot (Overcoat) retention system that work Prevents
mother from causing friction inside the noodle"

Puzzled!
--
Chris

zakventis said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Dave
Larrington <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Wot Tim said. I've got these on the fixer, and they achieve with two
moving parts what takes Shimano about twenty. Forty quid from Wiggle:

<URL:http://tinyurl.com/nxrh9>

Please explain:

"Locking Overcoat A boot (Overcoat) retention system that work Prevents
mother from causing friction inside the noodle"

Puzzled!

Looks like a poor cut & paste of the manufacturer's page which
says:

"Locking Overcoat
A boot (Overcoat) retention system that prevents mother nature
from causing friction inside the noodle"

http://www.sram.com/en/avid/rimbrakes/archseries/
--
Tim.

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Ah ah ah.... Avid all the way. SD5's are great, kind of LX level, I
think. I have them, take them apart once a blue moon and reassemble and
swear by 'em.

Why go back to Shimano if you've already gone through one set?!

Nick

Weird - you can't get to that page from the sram.com/ avid/ rimbrakes
page. Have they stopped making them?

Nick

NickD said:

Weird - you can't get to that page from the sram.com/ avid/ rimbrakes
page. Have they stopped making them?

Nick

From the fact that they seem to be going out of stock in several
places and they're no longer directly linked to it looks like it.
--
Tim.

[email hidden]

David Martin said:

Doki said:

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Deore LX V-brakes.
After only 18 months of commuting, they have given up. Nice parallel
push design, but [censored] execution so the bushes corrode and seize..

Bah!

And I also need a new spoke or two for the rear wheel.

Lasted fine on my MTB. P'raps they've made a crapper more modern version.

Possibly the salt. Possibly the minimal maintenance. They had been
doing fine but have seriously corroded now. And alloy/alloy doesn't
make for a good bearing surface once it starts to get a bit rough. I
might double the cost and look at the XT ones, or halve the cost and
head back to simple Deore ones.

These HS11s are as parallel push as you can set them up:

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=498

I have a set but currently don't have an extreme enough application for
them. They used to bend the rear forks on my touring bike of five years
ago rather alarmingly given it was aluminium. Maintenance was just
replacing brake blocks when worn out (they never needed bleeding, and
they adjust from the lever) - not cheap but a pretty good way of
reducing maintenance.

JimP

--
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to
grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after
all. - DNA

Jim Price said:

David Martin said:

Doki said:

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Deore LX V-brakes.
> After only 18 months of commuting, they have given up. Nice parallel
> push design, but [censored] execution so the bushes corrode and seize..
>
> Bah!
>
> And I also need a new spoke or two for the rear wheel.
Lasted fine on my MTB. P'raps they've made a crapper more modern version.

Possibly the salt. Possibly the minimal maintenance. They had been
doing fine but have seriously corroded now. And alloy/alloy doesn't
make for a good bearing surface once it starts to get a bit rough. I
might double the cost and look at the XT ones, or halve the cost and
head back to simple Deore ones.

These HS11s are as parallel push as you can set them up:

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=498

I have a set but currently don't have an extreme enough application for
them. They used to bend the rear forks on my touring bike of five years
ago rather alarmingly given it was aluminium. Maintenance was just
replacing brake blocks when worn out (they never needed bleeding, and
they adjust from the lever) - not cheap but a pretty good way of
reducing maintenance.

Not too pricey though, but I have just ordered a set of Arch Rivals..

...d

Quoted message said:

JimP

--
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to
grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after
all. - DNA

"Jim Price" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I have a set but currently don't have an extreme enough application for
them. They used to bend the rear forks on my touring bike of five years
ago rather alarmingly given it was aluminium. Maintenance was just
replacing brake blocks when worn out (they never needed bleeding, and they
adjust from the lever) - not cheap but a pretty good way of reducing
maintenance.

HS33 are a bit more powerful - there's a lot of pad travel on the 11s, and
losing the 25% they did with the 33 is a good compromise.

Did you have the brake booster on them? Especially on the back, it's a jolly
good idea - there's no cable pulling the bosses together, so you get the
bending you saw.

Not sure what you mean by 'an extreme enough application'. IME they're
easier to set up and to maintain - so if I had a flat barred bike and a set
lying around, I'd fit them in a flash.

(one tandem has HS22, one has HS66)

cheers,
clive

In article <[email hidden]>, Tim (tim@spiny-

norman.net) said:

NickD said:

Weird - you can't get to that page from the sram.com/ avid/ rimbrakes
page. Have they stopped making them?

Nick

From the fact that they seem to be going out of stock in several
places and they're no longer directly linked to it looks like it.

AND I note they're NOT actually available from Wiggle any more either.
Though I do still have one lying around in the Boodies Box...

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Putting just the right amount of gin in your goldfish bowl makes the
fishies' eyes bulge and causes them to swim in a very amusing manner.

Dave Larrington said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Tim (tim@spiny-

norman.net) said:

From the fact that they seem to be going out of stock in several
places and they're no longer directly linked to it looks like it.

AND I note they're NOT actually available from Wiggle any more either.
Though I do still have one lying around in the Boodies Box...

That's 'cos I just bought the last one...

...d

Clive George said:

Did you have the brake booster on them? Especially on the back, it's a
jolly good idea - there's no cable pulling the bosses together, so you
get the bending you saw.

No, I wasn't using the brake booster on them. I considered it, but other
things changed such that I no longer use them for touring (see below).

Quoted message said:

Not sure what you mean by 'an extreme enough application'. IME they're
easier to set up and to maintain - so if I had a flat barred bike and a
set lying around, I'd fit them in a flash.

I seem to be going through a drop bar phase at the moment, which means
some extreme bodging to make them work with STI/Ergo levers. When the
ground dries up a little around here they'll probably be pressed back
into use on a frame which can cope with them, probably the Kona Scab -
if they can bend the rear stays on that I'm going to have to check I
haven't crushed the rims!

JimP

--
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to
grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after
all. - DNA

"Jim Price" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Clive George said:

Did you have the brake booster on them? Especially on the back, it's a
jolly good idea - there's no cable pulling the bosses together, so you
get the bending you saw.

No, I wasn't using the brake booster on them. I considered it, but other
things changed such that I no longer use them for touring (see below).

Quoted message said:

Not sure what you mean by 'an extreme enough application'. IME they're
easier to set up and to maintain - so if I had a flat barred bike and a
set lying around, I'd fit them in a flash.

I seem to be going through a drop bar phase at the moment, which means
some extreme bodging to make them work with STI/Ergo levers.

Mmm, yes, probably a little more extreme than I'd consider :-) I want magura
ergos, but sadly that isn't going to happen :-(

Quoted message said:

When the ground dries up a little around here they'll probably be pressed
back into use on a frame which can cope with them, probably the Kona
Scab - if they can bend the rear stays on that I'm going to have to check
I haven't crushed the rims!

They'll still rotate. I suspect the bikes I've got the maguras fitted to
have bigger stays than yours, but I still use a booster. (against that I can
use a lot more back brake than you coz there's rather more weight on the
back wheel). If you don't use one, you're applying forces that the bosses
weren't designed for - they may well cope, but I prefer the extra brake
solidity it gives you.

cheers,
clive