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  1. View toward horizon from 42°N 83°W, azimuth 45° (NE)
    Tue 2006 Mar 21 15:47 UTC
    Explain symbols in the map.
    Pan leftClick in map to aim telescope.Pan right
    View sky map for this observing site.

    Right
    AscensionDeclinationDistance
    (AU)From 42°N 83°W:AltitudeAzimuthSun0h 3m 13s+0°
    20.9'0.99641.399-38.476UpMercury22h 58m 12s-4°
    44.3'0.64242.090-15.620UpVenus21h 5m 0s-14°
    25.2'0.65131.51019.088UpMoon17h 0m 15s-27° 48.2'59.5
    ER-10.05261.457SetMars5h 1m 41s+24°
    30.8'1.5457.586-116.318UpJupiter15h 5m 19s-16°
    3.6'4.706-22.93888.672SetSaturn8h 28m 24s+19°
    50.1'8.531-23.697-153.359SetUranus22h 54m 13s-7°
    47.7'21.01739.274-13.581UpNeptune21h 25m 13s-15°
    20.9'30.78931.64813.257UpPluto17h 46m 11s-15° 49.2'31.0005.93762.455Up
    Azimuth in the above table follows the astronomical convention: zero
    degrees is South with positive angles toward the West and negative
    angles toward the East.
    Back to Horizon Views   Up to Your Sky   Credits   Customise
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    any manner without permission, restriction, attribution, or
    compensation. Back links to Your Sky are welcome.

    View toward horizon from 42°N 83°W, azimuth 225° (SW)
    Tue 2006 Mar 21 15:45 UTC

    Right
    AscensionDeclinationDistance
    (AU)From 42°N 83°W:AltitudeAzimuthSun0h 3m 12s+0°
    20.9'0.99641.096-39.240UpMercury22h 58m 12s-4°
    44.2'0.64241.957-16.477UpVenus21h 5m 0s-14°
    25.2'0.65131.66518.372UpMoon17h 0m 8s-27° 48.0'59.5
    ER-9.64361.080SetMars5h 1m 40s+24° 30.8'1.5457.153-116.725UpJupiter15h
    5m 20s-16° 3.6'4.706-22.45488.241SetSaturn8h 28m 24s+19°
    50.1'8.531-23.912-153.987SetUranus22h 54m 13s-7°
    47.7'21.01739.157-14.400UpNeptune21h 25m 13s-15°
    20.9'30.78931.75612.529UpPluto17h 46m 11s-15° 49.2'31.0006.36561.995Up
    Azimuth in the above table follows the astronomical convention: zero
    degrees is South with positive angles toward the West and negative
    angles toward the East.

    all I saying rec running. right now.
    we in the [censored].................

    42°N,83°W 90°N,180° 90°lat,
    3rd planet from the Sun.
    Milky Way, Orion arm.
    U.S.A., Michigan. west of Port Huron
    Bottum of Lake Huron.

  2. PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSYCHO!

    On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:57:26 -0500, [email hidden] (Beach

    Bounty) said:

    View toward horizon from 42°N 83°W, azimuth 45° (NE)
    Tue 2006 Mar 21 15:47 UTC
    Explain symbols in the map.
    Pan leftClick in map to aim telescope.Pan right
    View sky map for this observing site.

    Right
    AscensionDeclinationDistance
    (AU)From 42°N 83°W:AltitudeAzimuthSun0h 3m 13s+0°
    20.9'0.99641.399-38.476UpMercury22h 58m 12s-4°
    44.3'0.64242.090-15.620UpVenus21h 5m 0s-14°
    25.2'0.65131.51019.088UpMoon17h 0m 15s-27° 48.2'59.5
    ER-10.05261.457SetMars5h 1m 41s+24°
    30.8'1.5457.586-116.318UpJupiter15h 5m 19s-16°
    3.6'4.706-22.93888.672SetSaturn8h 28m 24s+19°
    50.1'8.531-23.697-153.359SetUranus22h 54m 13s-7°
    47.7'21.01739.274-13.581UpNeptune21h 25m 13s-15°
    20.9'30.78931.64813.257UpPluto17h 46m 11s-15° 49.2'31.0005.93762.455Up
    Azimuth in the above table follows the astronomical convention: zero
    degrees is South with positive angles toward the West and negative
    angles toward the East.
    Back to Horizon Views   Up to Your Sky   Credits   Customise
     Help
    by John Walker

    Images produced by Your Sky are in the public domain and may be used in
    any manner without permission, restriction, attribution, or
    compensation. Back links to Your Sky are welcome.

    View toward horizon from 42°N 83°W, azimuth 225° (SW)
    Tue 2006 Mar 21 15:45 UTC

    Right
    AscensionDeclinationDistance
    (AU)From 42°N 83°W:AltitudeAzimuthSun0h 3m 12s+0°
    20.9'0.99641.096-39.240UpMercury22h 58m 12s-4°
    44.2'0.64241.957-16.477UpVenus21h 5m 0s-14°
    25.2'0.65131.66518.372UpMoon17h 0m 8s-27° 48.0'59.5
    ER-9.64361.080SetMars5h 1m 40s+24° 30.8'1.5457.153-116.725UpJupiter15h
    5m 20s-16° 3.6'4.706-22.45488.241SetSaturn8h 28m 24s+19°
    50.1'8.531-23.912-153.987SetUranus22h 54m 13s-7°
    47.7'21.01739.157-14.400UpNeptune21h 25m 13s-15°
    20.9'30.78931.75612.529UpPluto17h 46m 11s-15° 49.2'31.0006.36561.995Up
    Azimuth in the above table follows the astronomical convention: zero
    degrees is South with positive angles toward the West and negative
    angles toward the East.

    all I saying rec running. right now.
    we in the [censored].................

    42°N,83°W 90°N,180° 90°lat,
    3rd planet from the Sun.
    Milky Way, Orion arm.
    U.S.A., Michigan. west of Port Huron
    Bottum of Lake Huron.

  3. Beach Bounty said:

    View toward horizon from 42°N 83°W, azimuth 45° (NE)
    all I saying rec running. right now.
    we in the [censored].................

    42°N,83°W 90°N,180° 90°lat,
    3rd planet from the Sun.
    Milky Way, Orion arm.
    U.S.A., Michigan. west of Port Huron
    Bottum of Lake Huron.

    I try very hard to understand your posts. True to form this one lost me
    somwhere between Pluto and the bottom of Lake Huron.

  4. email hidden said:


    Beach Bounty said:

    View toward horizon from 42°N 83°W, azimuth 45° (NE)
    all I saying rec running. right now.
    we in the [censored].................

    42°N,83°W 90°N,180° 90°lat,
    3rd planet from the Sun.
    Milky Way, Orion arm.
    U.S.A., Michigan. west of Port Huron
    Bottum of Lake Huron.

    I try very hard to understand your posts. True to form this one lost me
    somwhere between Pluto and the bottom of Lake Huron.

    It's a good thing he and Twittering idiot don't read each others
    posts. They'd fall in love, marry, and never post on the web again.

  5. only not running related.

    sagittarius to south 0°

    The Great Attractor
    Caption and credit
    It may not just be Chiron that makes Sagittarius so intense, unusual and
    worldly/unworldly. Today's truly strange installment may suggest what
    does, and suggest why, if Chiron has an affinity to Sagittarius, it's as
    powerful a planet as it appears to be.
    when the sun is south.............

    The Earth and Sun are now aligning in the direction of the midpoint of
    Sagittarius, halfway between Scorpio and Capricorn. Among the many
    strange marvels of the sign that contains the galactic center is another
    galactic point called the Great Attractor, located at about Sagittarius
    14 degrees and two minutes. As I write, the Sun is at Sagittarius 14
    degrees and one minute.
    It's probably best if I leave it to astronomers to begin the discussion
    of what the Great Attractor is, or seems to be, and then move into the
    astrology.

    According to the University of Illinois Cosmos in a Computer web page,
    "The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies [Andromeda is our nearest galactic
    neighbor, not counting our own sub-galaxies, or clusters] are the
    dominant structures in a galaxy cluster called the Local Group which is,
    in turn, an outlying member of the Virgo supercluster. Andromeda --
    about 2.2 million light-years from the Milky Way -- is speeding toward
    our galaxy at 200,000 miles per hour. This motion can only be accounted
    for by gravitational attraction, even though the mass that we can
    observe is not nearly great enough to exert that kind of pull. The only
    thing that could explain the movement of Andromeda is the gravitational
    pull of a lot of unseen mass -- perhaps the equivalent of 10 Milky
    Way-size galaxies -- lying between the two galaxies."
    Okay, interesting enough. Some invisible "thing" with the gravitational
    force of an object with a mass ten times our own galaxy is drawing the
    Milky Way and Andromeda together, and it's believed that the two
    galaxies will eventually collide.
    But now consider this.
    "Furthermore," the authors continue, "our entire Local Group is hurtling
    toward the center of the Virgo cluster at one million miles per hour.
    The Virgo cluster lies some 50 million light years from Earth. Only the
    central region is shown [in the photograph] above, containing two giant
    elliptical galaxies, M84 and M86. The visible part of the cluster is but
    a small portion of what seems to be out there. Nevertheless, the Virgo
    Cluster, along with several other large clusters, are in turn speeding
    towards a gigantic unseen mass named The Great Attractor."

    [For more astronomical information, use these links for a Quicktime
    movie, or a much smaller sound file (both of the same interview with
    Jeremiah Ostriker of Princeton University) that describe this
    phenomenon. This link, to Scientific American's site, tells more of the
    story, as does this link at Astronomy Picture of the Day.]
    How the senses deceive us. We can see nothing there, visibly. But our
    instruments tell us that everything is moving toward it -- a million
    galaxies, if you can imagine such a thing -- and that it's emitting a
    simultaneous broadcast of infrared, ultraviolet, x-ray and gamma ray
    radiation, among many other frequencies of the spectrum.
    "It's demonstrably more like a quasar than black hole," says Philip
    Sedgwick, the Arizona-based Centaur astrologer and one of the few people
    who has researched the psychodynamics of the Great Attractor as it shows
    up in the charts of his clients.
    "It doesn't appear to be punching a hole into another dimension, but
    rather, it allows us to see around things." In other words, its massive
    gravitational force bends spacetime so profoundly that we can get a view
    around the back of the universe. "It allows you to see around the bend.
    It clears the way. It's almost as if you're moving around behind
    something.
    "Nobody knows what it is, or why everything is drawing to it. This thing
    is prodigious. It's the largest thing that I know of, that they
    [astronomers] know of. They can't really see anything out there. So what
    is it? We don't know. The point itself retreats from us, but everything
    is following it, in hot pursuit."
    Sedgwick, a Scorpio, adds, "It is the ultimate Sagittarian statement of
    leave me alone, don't crowd my space, coming into the most extreme."
    People born with the Sun, Moon, ascendant or another important planet
    close to, or aspecting, this point will often find that they have a
    polarizing effect on people around them, making unusually close friends
    and intense enemies as well. They can give the impression that they hold
    the key to the mystery of the universe, correctly or not.
    "The perception is that people on the Great Attractor have unusual
    appeal or potency. They find themselves in vast circles, accidentally.
    Or they have impacted masses of people and think they have created no
    influence in their lives whatsoever," he said.
    The current Saturn-Pluto opposition has come within two degrees of this
    point since late July. "With Pluto having been there, and with Saturn
    about to finish it off, people with this point prominent in their charts
    are maturing into a calling, as it were. They are discovering what their
    calling is," he said.
    He added that it's often prominent in the charts of people who feel as
    if they are in some way alien from the rest of the human race, even
    literally. Elian Gonzolez, for example, was born Dec. 5 and his Sun is
    right there. As Pluto went over the degree recently, the house where he
    lived in Miami was turned into a museum, and in that city he's held with
    the reverence of the baby Jesus. Mohammed Atta, the pilot who flew
    Flight 11 into the World Trade Center, was detained in Miami at the same
    time on immigration charges, and was then released.
    "But in addition, these are people who feel alienated and yet they bring
    in different levels of consciousness, and this is why," Sedgwick said.
    Among its more noteworthy subjects is Walt Disney. In the astrological
    community, one of its most prominent spokesmen, Rob Hand, is born with
    the Sun conjunct this point as well.
    If you know your chart, check for planets in the middle degrees of any
    sign, but principally a fire sign or a mutable sign, to see whether you
    have a major aspect to the Great Attractor.
    << Prior | Contents | Continued >>
    Phil Sedgwick, a truly great teacher, offers a course in galactic
    astrology on tape, and has his own ephemerides of Centaur planets
    available. You can email him in care of Planet Waves at
    [email hidden]. Phil did a class at Norwac 2001 on the Great
    Attractor, which is available from [email hidden]. FYI, Rob Hand
    gave an excellent talk on Sunday night on astrology and magic, available
    from the same source.
    Home | Horoscopes | What's New | Consultations
    Space graphics above: Samples of the Center of Centaurus A, courtesy of
    APOD. Credit: E.J. Schreier (STScI) et al., NASA. Explanation: A
    fantastic jumble of young blue star clusters, gigantic glowing gas
    clouds, and imposing dark dust lanes surrounds the central region of the
    active galaxy Centaurus A.
    This link written and posted Dec. 5, 2001

    42°N,83°W 90°N,180° 90°lat,
    3rd planet from the Sun.
    Milky Way, Orion arm.
    U.S.A., Michigan. west of Port Huron
    Bottum of Lake Huron.

  6. PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSYCHO!

    On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:00:30 -0500, [email hidden] (Beach

    Bounty) said:

    only not running related.

    sagittarius to south 0°

    The Great Attractor
    Caption and credit
    It may not just be Chiron that makes Sagittarius so intense, unusual and
    worldly/unworldly. Today's truly strange installment may suggest what
    does, and suggest why, if Chiron has an affinity to Sagittarius, it's as
    powerful a planet as it appears to be.
    when the sun is south.............

    The Earth and Sun are now aligning in the direction of the midpoint of
    Sagittarius, halfway between Scorpio and Capricorn. Among the many
    strange marvels of the sign that contains the galactic center is another
    galactic point called the Great Attractor, located at about Sagittarius
    14 degrees and two minutes. As I write, the Sun is at Sagittarius 14
    degrees and one minute.
    It's probably best if I leave it to astronomers to begin the discussion
    of what the Great Attractor is, or seems to be, and then move into the
    astrology.

    According to the University of Illinois Cosmos in a Computer web page,
    "The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies [Andromeda is our nearest galactic
    neighbor, not counting our own sub-galaxies, or clusters] are the
    dominant structures in a galaxy cluster called the Local Group which is,
    in turn, an outlying member of the Virgo supercluster. Andromeda --
    about 2.2 million light-years from the Milky Way -- is speeding toward
    our galaxy at 200,000 miles per hour. This motion can only be accounted
    for by gravitational attraction, even though the mass that we can
    observe is not nearly great enough to exert that kind of pull. The only
    thing that could explain the movement of Andromeda is the gravitational
    pull of a lot of unseen mass -- perhaps the equivalent of 10 Milky
    Way-size galaxies -- lying between the two galaxies."
    Okay, interesting enough. Some invisible "thing" with the gravitational
    force of an object with a mass ten times our own galaxy is drawing the
    Milky Way and Andromeda together, and it's believed that the two
    galaxies will eventually collide.
    But now consider this.
    "Furthermore," the authors continue, "our entire Local Group is hurtling
    toward the center of the Virgo cluster at one million miles per hour.
    The Virgo cluster lies some 50 million light years from Earth. Only the
    central region is shown [in the photograph] above, containing two giant
    elliptical galaxies, M84 and M86. The visible part of the cluster is but
    a small portion of what seems to be out there. Nevertheless, the Virgo
    Cluster, along with several other large clusters, are in turn speeding
    towards a gigantic unseen mass named The Great Attractor."

    [For more astronomical information, use these links for a Quicktime
    movie, or a much smaller sound file (both of the same interview with
    Jeremiah Ostriker of Princeton University) that describe this
    phenomenon. This link, to Scientific American's site, tells more of the
    story, as does this link at Astronomy Picture of the Day.]
    How the senses deceive us. We can see nothing there, visibly. But our
    instruments tell us that everything is moving toward it -- a million
    galaxies, if you can imagine such a thing -- and that it's emitting a
    simultaneous broadcast of infrared, ultraviolet, x-ray and gamma ray
    radiation, among many other frequencies of the spectrum.
    "It's demonstrably more like a quasar than black hole," says Philip
    Sedgwick, the Arizona-based Centaur astrologer and one of the few people
    who has researched the psychodynamics of the Great Attractor as it shows
    up in the charts of his clients.
    "It doesn't appear to be punching a hole into another dimension, but
    rather, it allows us to see around things." In other words, its massive
    gravitational force bends spacetime so profoundly that we can get a view
    around the back of the universe. "It allows you to see around the bend.
    It clears the way. It's almost as if you're moving around behind
    something.
    "Nobody knows what it is, or why everything is drawing to it. This thing
    is prodigious. It's the largest thing that I know of, that they
    [astronomers] know of. They can't really see anything out there. So what
    is it? We don't know. The point itself retreats from us, but everything
    is following it, in hot pursuit."
    Sedgwick, a Scorpio, adds, "It is the ultimate Sagittarian statement of
    leave me alone, don't crowd my space, coming into the most extreme."
    People born with the Sun, Moon, ascendant or another important planet
    close to, or aspecting, this point will often find that they have a
    polarizing effect on people around them, making unusually close friends
    and intense enemies as well. They can give the impression that they hold
    the key to the mystery of the universe, correctly or not.
    "The perception is that people on the Great Attractor have unusual
    appeal or potency. They find themselves in vast circles, accidentally.
    Or they have impacted masses of people and think they have created no
    influence in their lives whatsoever," he said.
    The current Saturn-Pluto opposition has come within two degrees of this
    point since late July. "With Pluto having been there, and with Saturn
    about to finish it off, people with this point prominent in their charts
    are maturing into a calling, as it were. They are discovering what their
    calling is," he said.
    He added that it's often prominent in the charts of people who feel as
    if they are in some way alien from the rest of the human race, even
    literally. Elian Gonzolez, for example, was born Dec. 5 and his Sun is
    right there. As Pluto went over the degree recently, the house where he
    lived in Miami was turned into a museum, and in that city he's held with
    the reverence of the baby Jesus. Mohammed Atta, the pilot who flew
    Flight 11 into the World Trade Center, was detained in Miami at the same
    time on immigration charges, and was then released.
    "But in addition, these are people who feel alienated and yet they bring
    in different levels of consciousness, and this is why," Sedgwick said.
    Among its more noteworthy subjects is Walt Disney. In the astrological
    community, one of its most prominent spokesmen, Rob Hand, is born with
    the Sun conjunct this point as well.
    If you know your chart, check for planets in the middle degrees of any
    sign, but principally a fire sign or a mutable sign, to see whether you
    have a major aspect to the Great Attractor.
    << Prior | Contents | Continued >>
    Phil Sedgwick, a truly great teacher, offers a course in galactic
    astrology on tape, and has his own ephemerides of Centaur planets
    available. You can email him in care of Planet Waves at
    [email hidden]. Phil did a class at Norwac 2001 on the Great
    Attractor, which is available from [email hidden]. FYI, Rob Hand
    gave an excellent talk on Sunday night on astrology and magic, available
    from the same source.
    Home | Horoscopes | What's New | Consultations
    Space graphics above: Samples of the Center of Centaurus A, courtesy of
    APOD. Credit: E.J. Schreier (STScI) et al., NASA. Explanation: A
    fantastic jumble of young blue star clusters, gigantic glowing gas
    clouds, and imposing dark dust lanes surrounds the central region of the
    active galaxy Centaurus A.
    This link written and posted Dec. 5, 2001

    42°N,83°W 90°N,180° 90°lat,
    3rd planet from the Sun.
    Milky Way, Orion arm.
    U.S.A., Michigan. west of Port Huron
    Bottum of Lake Huron.

  7. Beach Bounty said:

    View toward horizon from 42°N 83°W, azimuth 45° (NE)
    Tue 2006 Mar 21 15:47 UTC

    <snip>Edited to improve load time</snip>

    Quoted message said:

    all I saying rec running. right now.
    we in the [censored].................

    42°N,83°W 90°N,180° 90°lat,
    3rd planet from the Sun.
    Milky Way, Orion arm.
    U.S.A., Michigan. west of Port Huron
    Bottum of Lake Huron.

    Unless you're a female stargazer the thought of looking at Uranus
    through a high power telescope repulses me.

  8. Beach Bounty said:

    View toward horizon from 42°N 83°W, azimuth 45° (NE)
    Tue 2006 Mar 21 15:47 UTC.................
    all I saying rec running. right now.
    we in the [censored].................

    42°N,83°W 90°N,180° 90°lat,
    3rd planet from the Sun.
    Milky Way, Orion arm.
    U.S.A., Michigan. west of Port Huron
    Bottum of Lake Huron.

    I try to understand your posts but somewhere between Pluto and the
    bottom of Lake Huron you lost me.

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