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    Bob Martin
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    Changes in stage 5 compared to stage 4

    Biggest gainers by position :
    +72 Jan Ullrich
    +67 Michael Blaudzun
    +67 Frantisek Rabon
    +51 Volodymir Gustov
    +48 Joerg Ludewig
    +48 Carlos Sastre Candil
    +41 Manuel Beltran Martinez
    +37 Viatcheslav Ekimov
    +34 Inigo Cuesta Lopez De Castro
    +29 Scott Davis

    Biggest losers by position :
    -76 Miguel Angel Rubiano Chavez
    -65 Matthias Russ
    -63 Gustav Erik Larsson
    -54 Carlos Da Cruz
    -53 Torsten Hiekmann
    -51 Maxime Monfort
    -50 Roberto Laiseka Jaio
    -46 Ivan Mayoz
    -34 Grégory Rast
    -32 Olivier Bonnaire
    -30 Luca Mazzanti

    Biggest gainers by time :
    +0:32 Volodymir Gustov
    +0:32 Nicki Sorensen
    +0:32 Michael Blaudzun
    +0:32 Jens Voigt
    +0:32 Ivan Basso
    +0:32 Carlos Sastre Candil
    +0:32 Bobby Julich
    +0:31 Serguei Gonchar
    +0:31 Olaf Pollack
    +0:31 Michael Rogers

    Biggest losers by time :
    -5:45 Julio Alberto Perez Cuapio
    -5:45 Miguel Angel Rubiano Chavez
    -5:40 Moises Aldape Chavez
    -5:19 Carlos Da Cruz
    -4:42 Matthias Russ
    -4:42 Torsten Hiekmann
    -4:16 José Antonio Garrido Lima
    -3:37 Gustav Erik Larsson
    -3:12 Carl Naibo
    -2:51 Andy Flickinger
    -2:51 Giovanni Bernaudeau

    Favourites by position :
    +72 Jan Ullrich
    +48 Carlos Sastre Candil
    +12 Ivan Basso
    +10 Andrea Noe'
    +5 Serguei Gonchar
    +5 Dario David Cioni
    +2 Danilo Di Luca
    -4 Paolo Savoldelli
    -7 Damiano Cunego
    -10 Davide Rebellin
    -16 Gilberto Simoni

    Favourites by time :
    +0:32 Ivan Basso
    +0:32 Carlos Sastre Candil
    +0:31 Serguei Gonchar
    +0:31 Jan Ullrich
    -0:07 Paolo Savoldelli
    -0:10 Dario David Cioni
    -0:10 Danilo Di Luca
    -0:10 Andrea Noe'
    -0:31 Davide Rebellin
    -0:32 Damiano Cunego
    -0:54 Gilberto Simoni

    Favourites standings :
    1 Serguei Gonchar 15.30.23
    5 Ivan Basso 0.11
    6 Paolo Savoldelli 0.20
    12 Danilo Di Luca 0.49
    13 Davide Rebellin 0.54
    14 Dario David Cioni 0.56
    19 Andrea Noe' 1.09
    25 Damiano Cunego 1.17
    26 Jan Ullrich 1.20
    52 Gilberto Simoni 1.56
    101 Carlos Sastre Candil 2.44

    Retirements to date :
    Cofidis, le Credit par Telephone Leonardo Bertagnolli DNF 4
    Davitamon-Lotto Christophe Brandt DNS 4
    Quick Step-Innergetic Remmert Wielinga
    Team Milram Alessandro Petacchi DNS 4
    Total retirements : 4

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  2. Ewoud Dronkert
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    Bob Martin said:

    Biggest gainers by position :
    +72 Jan Ullrich

    WOOHOO!

    --
    E. Dronkert

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  3. Curtis L. Russell
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    Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Bob Martin said:

    Biggest gainers by position :
    +72 Jan Ullrich

    WOOHOO!

    Benjo will tell us what that works out to, the going rate to pay the
    other 71 riders.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

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  4. Tuschinski
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    Woohoo indeed.

    I bet he will loose loads of time in the mountains after wich we will
    see the usual "Jan is too fat" hate-threads, but I'm secretly
    hope-betting that he will be ready July...

    GO JAN 🙂

    And if he fails I'll still respect him 🙂

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  5. Stu Fleming
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    Bob Martin said:


    Changes in stage 5 compared to stage 4

    Biggest gainers by position :
    +72 Jan Ullrich

    Hey Jan!
    Ja, coach!
    Let's ride the Giro this year and get in form for the Tour!
    Duh...OK!

    Looks like a good July...

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  6. Kurgan Gringioni
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    Tuschinski said:

    Woohoo indeed.

    I bet he will loose loads of time in the mountains after wich we will
    see the usual "Jan is too fat" hate-threads

    <snip>

    Dumbass -

    The people who think that Jan is fat don't necessarily hate him.

    For me personally, he's a waste of supreme talent, but that doesn't
    mean I hate him. He's just a slacker relative to most of the rest of
    the guys who reach that level. We're just telling it like it is.
    Sometimes the truth ain't positive.

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

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  7. benjo maso
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    "Curtis L. Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Bob Martin said:

    Biggest gainers by position :
    +72 Jan Ullrich

    WOOHOO!

    Benjo will tell us what that works out to, the going rate to pay the
    other 71 riders.

    I don't know, but since the moment that Savoldelli convinced Mauricio Ardila
    and Wim van Huffel to help him for a mere pittance, the rates in the Giro
    must have dropped dramatically.

    Benjo

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  8. Bob Schwartz
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    benjo maso said:

    I don't know, but since the moment that Savoldelli convinced Mauricio Ardila
    and Wim van Huffel to help him for a mere pittance, the rates in the Giro
    must have dropped dramatically.

    Well, it was Sean Yates in the Discovery car. It wasn't Allan
    Peiper in the Davitamon-Lotto car, was it?

    Perhaps an old debt was repaid.

    Bob Schwartz

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  9. Tuschinski
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    Quoted message said:

    The people who think that Jan is fat don't necessarily hate him.


    Many do or at least loose perspective ^^

    Quoted message said:

    For me personally, he's a waste of supreme talent, but that doesn't
    mean I hate him.


    Accepted🙂

    Quoted message said:

    He's just a slacker relative to most of the rest of
    the guys who reach that level.

    I just don't know enough of him to completely agree on that. That he
    could do it more efficient seems obvious, but to call his methods
    slacking is going too far for me. He is using the "Lemond"method... it
    costs loads of energy and a top-notch mentality (You have to handle the
    stress of seeing superior opponents all the time and negative press).
    Slacking just doesn't quite fit

    Quoted message said:

    We're just telling it like it is.
    Sometimes the truth ain't positive.


    I doesn't equal we. A lot of people just bash for the bashing🙂 And
    claiming "truth"? *Shrug*

    Quoted message said:


    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

    Very welcome🙂

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  10. jerry in vermont
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    Stu Fleming said:
    Bob Martin said:


    Changes in stage 5 compared to stage 4

    Biggest gainers by position :
    +72 Jan Ullrich

    Hey Jan!
    Ja, coach!
    Let's ride the Giro this year and get in form for the Tour!
    Duh...OK!

    Looks like a good July...

    I think doing the Giro is the smartest thing he has ever done. I think
    he (everyone) has been trying to emulate Lan%^ for far too long and not
    staying true to themselves and listening to their own bodies.

    By riding a Giro, he is not "training" in Tuscany where the food is
    good and he is laying around in bed cheating on his common law wife
    with his best freinds sister (this one time, in band camp...). You
    cant make that [censored] up.

    Anyway, he is going to come out of the Giro with a great base and tear
    it up in the tour.

    The other good thing with the Giro is that I think he could be finding
    his true calling - super domestique/road captain. No pressure to win,
    and he can ride hard all day long and then sit up in the end. He is
    such a diesel anyway. He seems like an awful nice guy, etc. I could go
    on. It all fits. He gets to work his ass off for a team mate, and
    still get paid good, and win some time trials, maybe focus on worlds.
    Maybe a good career move for him.

    J

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  11. Stu Fleming
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    jerry in vermont said:

    I think doing the Giro is the smartest thing he has ever done. I think
    he (everyone) has been trying to emulate Lan%^ for far too long and not
    staying true to themselves and listening to their own bodies.

    Absolutely agree.

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