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  1. Twas lumpy.
    The climb from Keld to Kirkby Stephen was a killer
    The descent to Nateby was scary, I was accelerating despite having my brakes
    on. The Etape du Dales riders where whistling past at obscene speeds I
    couldn't trust the sheep not to leap out in front of me to allow myself to
    go any faster not that I could stop anyway.... My front wheel struggling
    with the braking forces popped a couple of spokes and I called it a day at
    Kirkby Stephen and was given a lift back to th estart bythe organiser.

    Not entirely gutted. I wasn't lantern rouge until 25 miles into the ride.
    I coped with the long drags, in some instances keeping pace with some of the
    Etape riders mind you they'd probably had a few killer climbs under their
    belts by the time I encountered them at Keld. I had some time in hand at
    Kirkby Stephen but didn't want to stress my out of trued front wheel any
    further with the descents into Alston and Teesdale.

    The scenery was stunning and I'll be going back to do the rest of the route
    later in the year. Meanwhile I'll admire the Trek mountain bike that I
    treated myself ato yesterday and plan some trail riding.

  2. vernon levy said:

    Twas lumpy.
    The climb from Keld to Kirkby Stephen was a killer
    The descent to Nateby was scary, I was accelerating despite having my brakes
    on. The Etape du Dales riders where whistling past at obscene speeds I
    couldn't trust the sheep not to leap out in front of me to allow myself to
    go any faster not that I could stop anyway.... My front wheel struggling
    with the braking forces popped a couple of spokes and I called it a day at
    Kirkby Stephen and was given a lift back to th estart bythe organiser.

    Not entirely gutted. I wasn't lantern rouge until 25 miles into the ride.
    I coped with the long drags, in some instances keeping pace with some of the
    Etape riders mind you they'd probably had a few killer climbs under their
    belts by the time I encountered them at Keld. I had some time in hand at
    Kirkby Stephen but didn't want to stress my out of trued front wheel any
    further with the descents into Alston and Teesdale.

    The scenery was stunning and I'll be going back to do the rest of the route
    later in the year. Meanwhile I'll admire the Trek mountain bike that I
    treated myself ato yesterday and plan some trail riding.


    That's a shame. You might have been OK though. I descended the Col du
    Tourmalet with two broken rear spokes.


  3. Quoted message said:

    That's a shame. You might have been OK though. I descended the Col du
    Tourmalet with two broken rear spokes.

    Yebbut you want to try stopping my body mass from accelerating on a long
    descent, my coolstop salmons were well poached by the time I got to Nateby
    ;-)

    I did a risk assessment and decided that I didn't want to risk a front wheel
    failure - the stresses under braking were forcing the wheel even more out of
    true. When the spokes popped, it took a couple of seconds to register what
    had happened and a lot longer to come to a stop. I've struggled on with
    rear spoke failures in the past but the rear end doesn't get as much hammer
    under braking.

    I have no doubt in my mind that the ride is manageable and that I am fitter
    than I was last year. I was really looking forwards to a Hartside ascent
    without my camping gear.

    The other benefit of the spoke breakages is that it's moved me towards
    having new front wheel built - I don't know how much meat is left on the
    front rim as it has no wear lines and I don't know the level of use the bike
    had in previous owners' hands. I might even have a dynohub wheel built.

    I'm determined to get a 200 out of the way soon even if it means doing it as
    a permanent. Next week will be a good opportunity as I've got a week's
    holiday.

    -=V=-


  4. Quoted message said:

    That's a shame. You might have been OK though. I descended the Col du
    Tourmalet with two broken rear spokes.

    How was your 400? Would a snorkel and wetsuit have helped?

  5. vernon levy said:
    Quoted message said:

    That's a shame. You might have been OK though. I descended the Col du
    Tourmalet with two broken rear spokes.

    Yebbut you want to try stopping my body mass from accelerating on a long
    descent, my coolstop salmons were well poached by the time I got to Nateby
    ;-)

    I did a risk assessment and decided that I didn't want to risk a front wheel
    failure - the stresses under braking were forcing the wheel even more out of
    true. When the spokes popped, it took a couple of seconds to register what
    had happened and a lot longer to come to a stop. I've struggled on with
    rear spoke failures in the past but the rear end doesn't get as much hammer
    under braking.

    I have no doubt in my mind that the ride is manageable and that I am fitter
    than I was last year. I was really looking forwards to a Hartside ascent
    without my camping gear.

    The other benefit of the spoke breakages is that it's moved me towards
    having new front wheel built - I don't know how much meat is left on the
    front rim as it has no wear lines and I don't know the level of use the bike
    had in previous owners' hands. I might even have a dynohub wheel built.

    I'm determined to get a 200 out of the way soon even if it means doing it as
    a permanent. Next week will be a good opportunity as I've got a week's
    holiday.

    -=V=-

    Me and at least three others are going to do The Hartside as a DIY perm
    in June

  6. vernon levy said:
    Quoted message said:

    That's a shame. You might have been OK though. I descended the Col du
    Tourmalet with two broken rear spokes.

    How was your 400? Would a snorkel and wetsuit have helped?

    it was wet for first 9 hours. Heavy going, 1 puncture for me, my first
    on an Audax

  7. MSeries said:

    it was wet for first 9 hours. Heavy going, 1 puncture for me, my first
    on an Audax

    The Stonehenge 200 (which doesn't actually go past it any more) will
    have to wait another year; this means my next Audax is the Dales
    Grimpeur in 2 weeks, it will have run out of rain by then (coudn't have
    the hose pipe ban lifted could we possibly?)

  8. vernon levy said:

    Twas lumpy.
    The climb from Keld to Kirkby Stephen was a killer
    The descent to Nateby was scary,

    I'll second you on that. Wasn't in the race, dont't even do Audax, but
    my parents live in Ravenstondale and I have cycled all that area on an
    old hardtail that hangs around in my parents shed. Got those awful
    centre pull brakes that just don't stop you.......as I found out at
    Nateby! Fortunately when I came off I somehow managed a long motorbike
    style slide without hitting anything (too) hard.

  9. MartinM said:

    The Stonehenge 200 (which doesn't actually go past it any more) will
    have to wait another year; this means my next Audax is the Dales
    Grimpeur in 2 weeks, it will have run out of rain by then (coudn't have
    the hose pipe ban lifted could we possibly?)

    Please let it have stopped raining by then!

    --
    Arthur Clune

  10. vernon levy said:
    Quoted message said:

    That's a shame. You might have been OK though. I descended the Col du
    Tourmalet with two broken rear spokes.



    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    I did a risk assessment and decided that I didn't want to risk a front wheel
    failure - the stresses under braking were forcing the wheel even more out of
    true. When the spokes popped, it took a couple of seconds to register what
    had happened and a lot longer to come to a stop. I've struggled on with
    rear spoke failures in the past but the rear end doesn't get as much hammer
    under braking.


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    The other benefit of the spoke breakages is that it's moved me towards
    having new front wheel built - I don't know how much meat is left on the
    front rim as it has no wear lines and I don't know the level of use the bike
    had in previous owners' hands. I might even have a dynohub wheel built.


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    -=V=-

    I agree that if you start occasionally popping spokes for reasons other
    than accident damage, it's time for a wheel rebuild.
    However, just for out on the road repairs, I've seem these things
    mentioned before:
    http://ucycle.com/accessories/item.php?name=fiberfix

    If you're riding 32 + spokes per wheel, one broken spoke normally
    wouldn't end your day anyway. It might have helped you out this time
    though.

    Possibly OTT to carry as a spare except on a loaded multi-day tour with
    limited LBS availability. Even then you've probably got a casette
    cracker and spare spokes anyway.

    Tough luck Vern, it sounds like you were really up for the full ride.
    Sometimes you just lose faith in some bit of your kit. You want to
    press on, but the internal voice says go easy. You probably made the
    wisest choice.

    Regards,

    bookieb.

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    MSeries () said:
    vernon levy said:
    Quoted message said:

    That's a shame. You might have been OK though. I descended the Col du
    Tourmalet with two broken rear spokes.

    How was your 400? Would a snorkel and wetsuit have helped?

    it was wet for first 9 hours. Heavy going, 1 puncture for me, my first
    on an Audax

    Snorkel would /definitely/ have helped on some of the flooded lanes
    'twixt Castleford and South Cave. I too was visited by the P+nct+r+
    Fairy for the first time in 2000+ km of audaxing.

    Full RR to follow.

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    I have a shell collection, have you seen it? I keep it scattered on the
    world's beaches.

  12. Dave Larrington said:

    Snorkel would /definitely/ have helped on some of the flooded lanes
    'twixt Castleford and South Cave. I too was visited by the P+nct+r+
    Fairy for the first time in 2000+ km of audaxing.

    In order to try to make up some time I elected to take the A road from
    Cas. to Snaith. Something beyond my consciousness must have guided me
    around those flooded parts. I intended to take the main road to Airmyn
    (the L at Glews) but again The Force made me turn left at Snaith to
    rejoin the route. Then I sighted four others, two of whom we spent the
    rest of the ride with.

    Quoted message said:

    Full RR to follow.


    Ditto, its half done.

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